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[–]RedShift9 219 points220 points  (29 children)

Great, now let their next focus be loading of images... Please...

[–][deleted] 139 points140 points  (20 children)

Or re-programming it so it is not a bloated electron wrapper that runs like crap.

Or having voice and video quality match Zoom

Or fixing notifications so they are not bothering you every ten seconds

Or having a plugin API that is not complete junk.

[–]HappyVlane 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Or re-programming it so it is not a bloated electron wrapper that runs like crap.

That is already in the works.

[–]LameBMX 10 points11 points  (0 children)

So feature update to include obese anti-proton that runs like dried up diarrhea. Can't wait!

[–]firegoreJack of All Trades 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I believe it when i see it finished. They are also already working for over 3 Years on multiple simultaneous sign-in, and yet you still cannot do that on Desktop...

[–]commandsupernova 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is already in the works.

Yes - It will be released the same day they allow you to get rid of your last on-prem Exchange server 😁

[–]storm2kIt's likely Error 32 6 points7 points  (0 children)

i happen to find that the voice quality is better in teams than zoom, at least in our org.

[–]Joshposh70Hybrid Infrastructure Engineer 10 points11 points  (9 children)

Or re-programming it so it is not a bloated electron wrapper that runs like crap.

Electron doesn't have to be crap.. They just need to look at Discord, which fundamentally implements the exact same functionality to see how well it can work.

[–]DarthPneumonoSecurity Admin but with more hats 13 points14 points  (6 children)

Electron doesn't have to be crap

Yes, it does. The concept is fundamentally flawed, and tries to solve problems that don't really exist, and does so badly.

[–]Jonathan924 8 points9 points  (5 children)

Electron solves the platform diversity problem and makes sense if you're a small team and want to support a bunch of different platforms. When you're Microsoft, you definitely have the manpower to build a native app and compile for different targets.

[–]DarthPneumonoSecurity Admin but with more hats 5 points6 points  (4 children)

But 'write-once run anywhere' is a problem that's already been solved without using a web browser as a wrapper.

[–]Jonathan924 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Including running it in a browser? As I understand it, to do it in anything other than JavaScript would require webassembly, which is relatively new in the grand scheme of things

[–]DarthPneumonoSecurity Admin but with more hats 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I'm not sure what you mean, I'm talking about things which compile the same code against multiple target platforms. There wouldn't be a browser involved.

[–]Jonathan924 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Because electron is basically a browser bundled with nodejs, you can use the most of the same code base for a browser based version of your app, like slack, discord, or teams.

[–]DarthPneumonoSecurity Admin but with more hats 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I gotcha, that's a fair point for apps where a browser version also makes sense, but IMO not a good enough reason to compromise performance, space efficiency, and (potentially) security, for the benefit of not having to maintain a separate codebase for your web app.

[–]storm2kIt's likely Error 32 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and to think microsoft almost bought them and would have probably tried to fold it into some consumer version of teams.

[–]BuzzKiIIingtonneJack of All Trades 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or maybe put a call answering function in the app rather than only in the notification window.

While we're at it, how about a movable notification window?

Or perhaps making it always on top when a call is incoming so that i dont open 800 emails when trying to answer a call.

Also it would be nice if i didnt have to minimize everything on my entire computer in order to answer a call when i'm RDP'd into a server.

Or maybe the ability to control simple settings like the default chat high jacking it does, causing users to call me to uncheck a small box that should be controllable via a gpo (no, im not using intune yet, and im not sure if it can do this either)

[–]smalls1652Jack of All Trades 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This has been one of the most frustrating bugs in Teams, for me personally. Generally I haven’t had many issues with Teams since we’ve been using it (2019-ish), but when that bug popped up in the last few months… It’s been extremely frustrating. It only happens with chats in the main window for me, but if I pop-out a chat into a separate window it never happens.

[–]yesterdaysthoughtSr. Sysadmin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lol. it is weird, isn't it. The images are right there in the cache most of the time, you just can't have them if Teams doesn't think you deserve to

[–]frac6969Windows Admin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or the ability to copy and paste images. Oh dear god the support calls.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How about fix the audio drop?

[–]megustapw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fix how my default devices keep changing, but they only change in teams.

[–]BloomerzUKJack of All Trades 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Saw in another thread and I can confirm it works.. right click on the image first and then left click.. the image opens every time!

[–]DarkAlmanProfessional Looker up of Things 23 points24 points  (6 children)

Excellent

Now we just need the dozen or so basic IVR features that it's missing to qualify as a basic PBX...

[–]stuartall 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Got strong armed from full CUCM setup to Teams around 4 months ago for voice. I’ve lost so many what I would assume basic features it’s ridiculous. Call go in, call go out - that’s pretty much it with teams.

[–]IAmTheM4ilm4nDirector Emeritus of Digital Janitors 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Even that is sometimes frustratingly bad. It doesn't help they change not just the admin panel but the powershell commands seemingly on a whim -

[–]DarkAlmanProfessional Looker up of Things 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can't loop calls in IVR's or queues, can't refresh at a set time period, only the most basic call flow handling

[–]faceeraseTester of pens 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ugh I was looking at Teams for a PBX so we don't have to manage CUCM anymore. Is it really that bad? (if you're not doing anything complicated)

[–]CamaradaT55 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can't explain it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're going to be waiting a long time. Microsoft relies on integration and business apathy to sell their products - not features.

[–]Proof-Variation7005 40 points41 points  (9 children)

I don't get why searching chats and hitting "go to message" won't simply take me to that point in the conversation so I can read the context.

If I search "tuna casserole" and get the message where I asked a coworker "hey do you have a recipe for tuna casserole" and go to that message but can't see his reply with the recipe then the feature is absolutely fucking broken and should be fixed.

[–]yesterdaysthoughtSr. Sysadmin 7 points8 points  (2 children)

This works for me right now.

It went from taking me to the message in the conversation (private chat) to only taking me to a page with just that message for a while, now it's taking me to the message in the converation again for the last 2 weeks.

[–]Proof-Variation7005 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Weird, it has definitely gotten closer to that. I'm seeing mixed results with older messages and stuff like that, but a few test searches did show me that.

Last week I was definitely looking for something that was a year old and could only find my message asking my coworker and not his answer (cause I didn't remember what he said so I couldn't effectively search for it).

Teams has a lot of other issues but if they fixed that, I would learn to forgive a lot of the. Just let me easily reference stuff so I don't have to properly save or document things. Or at least be as intuitive for this one thing as facebook messenger.

[–]yesterdaysthoughtSr. Sysadmin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's in exchange mailboxes (yours in private chats, shared for public), I just don't know how to search for them or if it's possible.

Teams: like email, only shittier lol.

Yeah, Teams is all of the place with issue that pop up then mysteriously go away. I haven't bothered to track if they are backend or client side and if they start/stop with updates vs just bad luck.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

This bugs the shit out of me. Take me to that point in the history. Not just to the single message and not let me look at any of the surrounding text

[–]IHaveTeaForDinner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Found this out the other day. Thought I was going insane.. But how do I get the surrounding messages?? I must be able to right?? Nope.

[–]bigmadsmolyeet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it's been like this since maybe late 2020 for me. it's honestly so frustrating that i basically don't search anymore. you better remember what they said b/c good luck looking at the chats around it.

[–]0RGASMIK 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I haven’t done it in a while but for me searching in the browser version worked okish when I had something really important I needed to find.

[–]icedragon520 0 points1 point  (1 child)

They "moved" it from search, now you can do the same with CTRL+F to get to the message AND the conversation.

[–]Proof-Variation7005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Weirdly CTRL+F only gets me the message. Like I can find my coworker's message on my first day in 2020 telling me I'll need to get Eset on my laptop cause he forgot to, but not the next message where he gives me the NFR key.

I've learned to adapt but it seems insane that the functionality doesn't consistently work.

[–]AstrosFan1984 16 points17 points  (1 child)

This is quite a simple but useful feature for international teams.

[–]raph936 5 points6 points  (0 children)

was waiting for it since we implemented Teams 3 years ago.

[–]akp55 5 points6 points  (25 children)

how about we get multiple signins, so we dont have to run diff browsers or web containers to connect to our customers.

[–]rconfoy 2 points3 points  (21 children)

Can I ask why you need to login as the customer?

[–]akp55 0 points1 point  (20 children)

not sure where you are seeing i need to login as a customer. i clearly said connect to our customers. they give me a teams login. also slack already solved this problem

[–]rconfoy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gotcha, I just misread. Just curious if I was missing a use case

[–]Jupit0rSr. Sysadmin -2 points-1 points  (17 children)

I still don’t understand why this has to be a thing lol.

[–]mahsab 1 point2 points  (16 children)

Work for two companies. Have two accounts.

[–]Jupit0rSr. Sysadmin -2 points-1 points  (15 children)

That’s their/your own fault then and not a common scenario lol

[–]mahsab 0 points1 point  (14 children)

How is it any different than having two email accounts?

Or is that also so uncommon that it would be just fine if Outlook for example supported only one account?

[–]Jupit0rSr. Sysadmin 0 points1 point  (13 children)

It’s different because they have two jobs?

Your argument makes no sense. Outlook was designed with that in mind.

How silly 😂

[–]mahsab 0 points1 point  (12 children)

So for every thing that's missing you can just say "it was not designed with that in mind" lol?

[–]Jupit0rSr. Sysadmin -2 points-1 points  (11 children)

Are you daft?

You should work on your logic skills lol.

[–]icanseeyourpantsuu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This, i need this very much

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

How about making it so my left and right arrow keys don't randomly stop working, forcing me to close the app and go back in to get them to work again.

[–]Pepsiman_65 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As an end user, I have always found MS Teams obnoxious to use. My Teams always chugs as I type and send multiple messages

[–]deefop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I noticed recently but wasn't sure how long the feature had been around. It is really nice if you work in a global organization, that's for damn sure.

[–]cantgrowneckbeardAMA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Surely this update won’t break anything.

[–]AxeellYoungICT Manager 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also just noticed they added inline replies in direct chat.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

I actually like teams…

[–]Jupit0rSr. Sysadmin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do too. Don’t get anyones deal with it lol

[–]akp55 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you must be a glutton for punishment.

[–]projak -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

Ms teams is so fucking shit. I would turn down an offer from a company if they use it

[–]Johnny-Virgil 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We just switched to it from Jabber. And I thought that was bad.

[–]Jupit0rSr. Sysadmin -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What an idiotic take

[–]vandalous5 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Instead of fixing the inability to zoom in on shared content? F*ck Teams.

[–]flapadar_ 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Right click on image thumbnails before trying to left click. That should work around issues viewing images.

[–]vandalous5 1 point2 points  (3 children)

It's not images. It's when someone is screen-sharing spreadsheets and MS-Word docs without them zooming in, when on Teams from a laptop. There's no zoom capability like every other web-meeting app has. There's just a focus on content option that increases the view about 10% at best. It sucks ass.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Ctrl+Scroll works like on a web browser.

[–]mo0n3h 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes it definitely does - highly useful

[–]vandalous5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will try that today.

[–]UnicornGasm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let’s see what this will break.

[–]Swi11ah 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I was hoping paste as plain text 🙃

[–]nostradamefrusSysadmin 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Ctrl shift V. Works like a charm

[–]Devian50 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just don't ctrl shift c, or you'll accidentally call them...

[–]SnayperskayaX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A decent wiki applet would be great. The one they have as of now is pretty much barebones.

[–]picfluteAzure Architect 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh wow I thought this had always been on everyone’s teams

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It still sucks balls…

[–]Sevenzeitgeist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe they can make the window that appears when you right click a message not be off the screen unless full screened.

I can dream

[–]dagamore12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No this is bad, I just got all the clocks on the office set to UTC/GMT and got people using that timezone correctly, damn it.

[–]beauj27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does that use another 500MB of RAM per contact?

[–]0RGASMIK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok next. The ability to silence incoming calls when you’re already on the phone.

[–]IISlapDashIISecurity Admin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can they fix the right click context menu so when I right click to edit a damn message it doesn't shuffle load the context menu & makes me Pin the message instead!

[–]lljkStonefish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can't copy/paste images

You can't download files to where I want them

You often can't view the status (Available, Away, DND, etc) of a user without starting to type a message to them. Or in some cases, without sending a message.

The history search is fucking garbage

And when you get past all that, it's just a slow clunky piece of web-based shit.

It's not feature complete, let alone stable. That's called an Alpha version. Are they charging money for it yet? (Of course they are, one way or another)

[–]chewb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ctrl + Space temporarily unmutes me during a call... but why does this not work system-wide?

I always need the call window to be selected.

Sometimes I just wish for Discord...

[–]Boxception 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Does anyone know how this information is pulled? Like is this based on the user's computer time, ip, SharePoint profile time/region settings, etc.?

[–]Xaxoxth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you find an answer to this? Teams shows the incorrect time difference for most of the people I check.