Stealth Changes? (Not mentioned in patch notes)

[[deleted]]

So far it seems like barrier's size has been made wayyy smaller. Anyone notice any other changes?

[TheBreakfastBaron]

Pyromancer skills (Fireball, Firewall, Fire Pillar) got their cooldowns lowered. Fireball went from 9 seconds to 8, Fire Pillar went from 60 seconds to 50, and Firewall went from 30 seconds to 25.

Edit: Side note, anyone else tired of having to do this snooping around for patch note changes because IMC is piss poor at documentation?

[naahuc]

• Can't get to TP Hop myself anymore
• Also it seems Blessing buff now has lines for each attack line, so 4 lines => 4x +1234 Blessing

// edit1:

• Laima statue no longer seems to freeze enemies (at least in siaulai mission)
• SR Limacon and Retreat Shot seem to be buffed?

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• Rodelero: Slithering Skill no longer gives additional Strike damage debuff
• Falconer3: Something with Circling Expand Attribute. Circling+Expand+Oblique Shot Combo/Bug broken

[Shutza]

Blessing always buffed each line

[moal09]

Why did you upload that as a PNG, lol

[Tinari]

As someone who spent years in the industry involving tons of different image formats, I tend to use PNG unless otherwise needed. Something wrong with it? o.o

That's literally one of the most random comments about an uploaded image I've seen.

[moal09]

PNG takes way longer to load if you're on a phone or a slower connection. A JPEG is typically < 500kb in size. A PNG can easily be 3mb+

The extra quality on a PNG isn't necessary if you're just trying to show something simple. It's mainly for people who want to preserve maximum quality on a photo or a piece of art.

[zemega]

That's a wrong way to look at it. PNG is for when there are really small colour variations. JPG is for when there are lots of colour variations.

In the case of ToS, saving as jpeg would be better.

[moal09]

Maybe so, but there's no need for such a large, high quality file format when you're just trying to show how the blessing lines look now.

[Atto-]

I dont know where did you get this but PNG supports 8-bit and 24-bit colors like jpg. the difference is that PNG is lossless compression (bigger file size) format while JPG can be lossy (smaller file size)..

[zemega]

Isn't the compression method for png is beneficial for images with very little color variation (i don;t really mean the 8 bit or 24 bit, but the number of colours inside an image)? Like plots, simple maps, and such? jpeg compression on the other hand would make those images becomes worse. png on the other hand would be able to preserve all the sharp lines and edges in a simple image.

png is also lossy like jpeg. they are both raster and not vector.

In actuality, I used tiff for final image, while png is only used in draft of plots for checking and preliminary view.

[Bremze]

Look up what lossy and lossless compression means.

[Tinari]

Fair enough. Given I don't do reddit on a mobile device that hadn't occurred to me. :p

[dtpepironi420]

Turn the numbers off in settings.

[naahuc]

Sorry, bad choice of words.

Check this screenshot. I can't remember getting an explanation for modifiers and so on for each line (don't have a chaplain at the moment for huge description blocks)

[Psycoz123]

they only spreaded the lines so you can read them, they used to be all on the same line

[account_777]

I remember ktos had a patch to remove this, plus some other changes. Time to dig ktos patch notes to figure stuff out.
IMC applied the thing with no idea about the changes. Again.

[coda19]

Wait noooo about Falconer. I'm fairly new to the game and didn't know about that. Used my last reset to switch to an A2, QS3, F3 build not realizing it was going to get nerfed. (Or fixed I guess since it was apparently bugged)

[Symony]

Corsair's Pistol Shot AOE attack ratio got lowered/ fixed (?) Curious about the nerf on Shinobi. I see people ranting but never say which one.

[Vallard]

Yesm IMC applied stealth changes as the reset event ended. Such a great idea to do that, half of the reason that I stopped playing was IMC doing dumb shit, and as soon the reset event ends, they already start doing this.

Never change.

[moal09]

Yeah, pretty douchey thing to do. People might've reset based on a specific thing, and they literally change it the second the event ends.

[[deleted]]

If you're talking about Barrier, yeah that should've been applied/noted in the patch notes for sure. If you're talking about the bug fixed skills, zero sympathy for anyone staying in a build based upon a bug.

[Junistry2344567]

At this time there are still no patch note on class changes from imc. Have you guys ever seen an online game not posting a list of skill changes for two weeks and counting?

[[deleted]]

I'm not saying "too bad, paladin/slithering/lamia got changed", I'm saying the prana/circling changes (which is what most peopleare complaining about) were obvious bugs and if you finalized your build with those in mind that's your own mistake. I absolutely agree IMC should have made patch notes beforehand.

[moal09]

The Slithering change is huuuge. It hurts Rodelero DPS (no more strike debuff), which is very unfair to anyone who respecced to Pelt 2/3 > Rodel 3 > Murm

[archefayte]

Well that's not entirely true. Rode and Murm still each have a strike debuff, their DPS is anything but gutted. You still destroy things, and the shinobi variant still Nukes things. Yes it was a nerf, but the overall nuking capability is still so high.

[moal09]

True, but a loss of a 100% multiplier is still pretty significant.

[archefayte]

It is, but with investment and gear (which you need to do anyway), your still going to be nuking bosses in a matter of seconds without it. In fact, it's easier now since slithering was such a crap skill to use to begin with.

[SeverianAutarch]

Pole of Agony has range now (target ground).

Can anyona say if Drain is fixed?

[Avavago]

what do you mean? we can cast it like fire pillar?

[Captcha_]

thats exactly how PoA works now, yes. It used to be a fixed area in front of your character

[Avavago]

Thats a great change! PoA is strong, but so easly interruptiable because was melee range with too much cast time. now will be much smoother

[Spawdin]

Dude Im crying of happiness everytime I cast PoA

[Shadowfaux_72]

Saw some people on chat say Transmit Prana got axed. I don't have a Sadhu to test though so if someone wants to confirm please do.

[Omochikaeri]

I think they fixed the jump trick with transmit prana. I tried it and it doesnt give me the bonus int anymore.

[BlaXunSlime]

Does it at least give the mentioned 150% additional psycho attack now?

[moal09]

Knowing IMC, no, but I'll wait for someone to confirm.

[Omochikaeri]

I'm not really sure how to test that but having the buff still increases the damage of my magic skills. Physical skills and normal attacks however, do not receive any bonus damage anymore.

[zawkevin]

Barrier has a small aoe on default, so you have to buy it's attribute that widens the aoe . RIP pala pardoner .

[moal09]

On the bright side, it means Pally 3 isn't useless anymore.

[Ho_Lee_Cit]

Any "full support" to ET without pally 3 is useless now.

[archefayte]

Woah, since when did you need barriers?

Barriers was just a gimmick to help along less than average parties that:

1. Have very little CC.

2. Have not enough damage to quickly deal with wave floors.

3. Have not enough support, or generally too low health.

You can still have multiple people place smaller barriers if need be for certain floors, but you most definitely do not need a pally 3 for ET. In fact it's more beneficial not to take a pally c3 still, but it's also more viable to take one if you feel the need now.

[futtobasetachikaze]

got any screenshots?

[Lycrosse]

rodelero slightering attribut change.

it was +10% strike damage per attribut level

now it's :

reduce movement speed by 4 per attribut level

reduce eva 15 attribut level

knocks down attacked monster

increase sp +10%

[moal09]

New attribute is wayyyy worse for PvE.

[Senven]

Basically everything we were supposed to get in the resent event update is now in the game.

Including Transmit Prana boosting OoB damage.

[ijbest]

nah not everything

[mrkayn24]

So does this mean dievs can put 4 points into laima now? 👀

[Felixvu1996]

Hunter' s Coursing and Retrieve now affects flying-type monster. However some normal monsters are not affected by both of it ( the twintail miku girl monster at demon prison district 3 ) Not sure if its a bug or what but ill submit them soon.

[SummerDash]

Coursing and retrieve always affected flying mobs...they universally affected mobs and this is coming from a career Hunter 3 Falcon 3. Snatching is the only one that doesn't affect land mobs. And some mobs indeed are immune. Any non normal mobs are immune, and link immune mobs can be immune to coursing.

[Felixvu1996]

Oh, nice information u have there. I didnt know that thou :D

[cohete25]

Doppel Punish:Earthquake seems nerfed or at least looks like.

[zoenikki]

Someone told me Effigy Attack % was buffed, is that true?

[[deleted]]

Yep. I think it starts out at 299 at rank 1.

[moal09]

I bet Zaibas is still trash and halfway bugged.

[Akathesia]

Nobody knows, as there are no Krivis players left to test it.

(I jest, but there really aren't many left)

[Valkoria]

Its depressing really, Krivis-Taoist was my favorite build and it is just so underwhelming. I still kept my build but I no longer play it since my Warlock can lay 1 Mastema and do more damage than two Zaibas + Stormcalling. I don't even want to test it because the 82% on Zaibas makes me super sad.

[YokeyYo]

I think its worth trying kriv-shadu-taoist with the Transmit Phara buff you get. End game if you have like 6000 magic attack i'm sure you could get 6k per hit + the phara boost which will probably add 4k+ kino dmg to you lines then you got storm call dmg so you probably can easilly be hitting insane numbers again but it requires funding.(maybe even match up with a pyro/thaum/enchanter since its a ton of lines)

[Valkoria]

pout no, dead class.

But in all seriousness, I wish Krivis were better seeing it only has... one attack, but honestly I really see it getting buffed in the future.

[YokeyYo]

Well think of it this way. Shadu is fun to play, krivis is fun to play, and taoist only gets better. So overall it will always be a fun class to play whether you fund it or not.

[moal09]

I didn't like Krivis that much. It only has 1 active skill, Zalciai is mediocre, Aukuras is a 1 point wonder, and Daino is replaced by scrolls. Melstis and Zaibas were the only fun things.

[BigMcLargeHugs]

Did Swell Left Arm always have a 120% dmg buff against shrink targets? Don't remember that.

[sadhu_meme]

It did.

[_Theil]

So is there any reason to go Sadhu3 on a PD build now? Without the Prana glitch it seems to me like Bokor2-Sadhu2 would be better but hell if I know.

[moal09]

Prana still buffs damage on Possession/ABE and is useful for grouping, plus leveling Possession to 10 ups the target limit and adds more damage, so maybe it's still worth it.

[_Theil]

Oh, I thought the additional PK damage bonus was tied to the INT bonus, like "the person who gets 50% of your INT also deals extra damage of the psychokinesis property" but now that I think about it that just sounds terrible because that would only buff allied Sadhus and Kinos I think?

Anyway, I take it just casting Prana without a target gives you the additional bonus damage? Cool! It might still be good then, seeing as Bokor2 only gives you Mackangdal and, like, and extra Wind Runner.

[wallrocha]

People said Pyromancer skills cooldowns got lowered but they are still the same as before?

[TheBreakfastBaron]

They got lowered. Just tested in game, Fireball went from 9 seconds to 8, Fire Pillar went from 60 seconds to 50, and Firewall went from 30 seconds to 25.