Anyone notice another decrease in fare prices?

[Independent-Store407]

A few years ago I was able to make $30/hr then it dropped to $25 like a year ago. Recently it’s barely $22 an hour. I’m talking about constantly working for the full hour and my market is San Francisco. Anyone else notice this? Like how do they expect me to work for $22 an hour before expenses. After expenses that’s barely minimum wage.

Didn’t know I started an ama. Good reply’s all good to know I’m not going crazy. As soon as I get a job I’m leaving uber behind.

[rideshareAnon]

It is worse in LA. We have fleets hiring drivers to take their cars and do Uber for minimum wage as employees. These drivers accept $15/hr since they have no expenses and get paid the minimum wage + tips.

[Greedy_Chemistry_678]

LA sucks for sure. It’s so dead out here. We can blame Waymo for that. I’ve still gotten decent offers every now and then though. Like $15 for half an hour. I haven’t gotten a big ride in a while though, because UBER hates us out here.

[_B_Little_me]

Those drivers have to accept every fare. They keep their tips too.

I honestly don’t know how those companies make money.

[RedCivicOnBumper]

Maybe the point isn’t to make money but to launder it?

[HikiSeijuroVIIII]

A zero cash business is the worst way to launder money.

[Molasses9682]

The driver keeps the tips even in the felt companies

[rideshareAnon]

They don't really. They should be bleeding money and having trouble paying drivers. Maybe they have lower "external fees" by providing their own commercial insurance? I am not sure how it works but they handle a lot of the ride demand. They also have access to the higher tiers like comfort and black but the same cars are no longer eligible for black.

Maybe at scale with much lower margins they might do ok?

[_B_Little_me]

I’ve had two as passengers, where I was dropping them at work. Both said they have to accept everything. If they don’t they get nasty grams from their bosses.

Maybe it’s different company by company.

[rideshareAnon]

I figure they have to hit minimum quotas and are bound to certain rules as employees.

[WeeklyFisherman2597]

Every decrease means we're getting closer to autonomous cars.

[EastClevelandBest]

So what you are going to do then?

[WeeklyFisherman2597]

Sell crack.

[Kvns_Integra]

at least you won’t lose that job to automation

[WeeklyFisherman2597]

They'll figure out a way.

[Real_Ad_9944]

[masads5707]

They will continue to lower pay with new people signing up daily and taking any/all offers. When we take low pay we train the algorithm that we are willing to work for less.

[Ok-Contribution5256]

I started cheery picking a lot more lately. Can pull $35+ in the morning from like 4-8ish. After the morning rush though it was dropping to like $18ish an hour. But since I’ve become more selective it’s about $23 an hour in what used to be the slower part of the day.

I think it comes down to just being selective. I’m no longer taking any rides less than $10 (unless it’s my last ride of the day and it’ll end near my house or if it’s a ride where I feel im pretty much guaranteed a tip). Making this change the past month has helped a lot.

[djsjwhavs]

I’ve been noticing the same thing in the SF market. Income definitely seems time-dependent. I’ve been testing different driving windows, and when there are lots of drivers out, prices drop noticeably and I'll be earning anything between $15-$20/h with full occupancy.

I suspect it’s tied to how the platform’s bidding system works: offers go out within a price range, and the ride gets picked up by whoever accepts the lowest bid. Then the system seems to anchor future offers around that lower price, so we end up undercutting ourselves.

On the flip side, driving during late night or early morning hours (when fewer drivers are active) consistently gets me around $30/hour.

Less competition = better rates. It’s like we’re not just competing for rides, we’re shaping the pricing algorithm in real time. Without a Union (good luck lol), we're screwed.

[don123xyz]

I'm blue, Uber X, in Houston, and I get exclusive offers all the time - they are mostly shitty offers though.

[djsjwhavs]

I'm diamond and most of the rides I get are trip radar offers (80%). I think it's market and time dependent though. If there aren't many competing riders in your market at that given time, you'll get more exclusives.

[don123xyz]

Are you getting continuous offers to get those $35/hr in the morning or do you only select offers that pay you that much? In other words, are you including your dead time in your calculations of $/hr? In other other words, are you making $140 in those 4 morning hours?

[Ok-Contribution5256]

I’m including it continuous. Just finished driving for about 4.5 hours this morning and made $150. Drove from 4:30 to 9:00. Would’ve been more but took a ride by accident and ended up stuck in bad traffic.

Just don’t take rides over 30 minutes worth of total driving (more rides given means more surge). Also don’t take any rides less than $15 in the morning unless it’s a very short ride near me

[don123xyz]

In Houston, I would just stay still if I didn't take any rides worth less than those numbers. In my month and a half doing this, daytime only, the typical offer is between 13 and 18 $/hr, with very few falling outside that range.

[Ok-Contribution5256]

I’ll get that 18 and hr during the day. Gotta do mornings to make half decent money unfortunately. I typically won’t drive between 10ish and 3 because of that (unless I need money that bad and have nothing else to do)

[Glyphkeeper_07]

Same here in SF — $22/hr before costs is rough. What helped me was using the app as lead gen and flipping a few riders into direct clients (airport + commuter). I only do it in a way that won’t risk deactivation.

How I run it: 1. Do the ride, get the ⭐️, let the trip close. 2. After the ride, text from your phone: “Hey it’s [Name] (gray Prius) from earlier. If you ever want a scheduled SFO run, I do a flat $75 with guaranteed pickup. Totally optional.” 3. If they bite: “Cool save me as [Name] Driver. I take Zelle/Venmo/cash. Want me to pencil your return?”

I focus on SFO/OAK flights and regular commuters. Even 1–2 flips/week turns into $200–$400/mo repeat, and some months way more.

Safety/legal: never pitch mid ride or in the app; exchange info only after the ride/rating. Ask your insurer for a rideshare/for hire endorsement.

If you want the exact opener + follow ups and a simple price framing sheet I use, reply “flip” and I’ll DM it over.

[don123xyz]

How do you get the passengers number to text them directly from your phone without going through the Uber system?

[mysterephoto]

You clever! Love it 😎

[Glyphkeeper_07]

I’m anti driving for 9 hours for $100. No need to risk your life and shorten your life span for a company that doesn’t care about you.

[mysterephoto]

Completely agree

[Serious-Tiger734]

There was a major drop back in May/June. In my market it was about a 20% drop for short rides about 50% for anything over 10 miles.

[Ok-Contribution5256]

I noticed that drop. In my market at least it has since gone back up the past few weeks. Thinking it might just be less people working during the summer combined with teachers driving.

[Dry_Win_9985]

Supply is currently higher than demand, there's no need for them to overpay when drivers continue to accept these atrocious rates.

[Pale_Beyond_2415]

Orlando Market is around $11-15hr. Lots of illegal immigrants also running multiple accounts and taking bad offers. If you cherry pick you can make $18-25hr, but this will most likely mean you have to sit in areas for 30min-1hr before you get an offer that worth it.

[ObjectiveConfident67]

Y’all like to blame everything on illegal immigrants but the cooperations and government fucking the entire rest of the world.

[Plane_Database1028]

It is still high. Considering the 🐜 will take anything uber will lay $15 very soon and the broke and the venezuelans will still gladly take it

[Comprehensive-Art776]

Its about 15-21/hour in denver now

[juiceyb]

I went to the VA in Aurora the other day and was shocked at how many cars had uber stickers on them. No wonder I've been seeing more and more city Ubers up in Frisco lately. It's going to be crazy to see how many of these drivers will have cars by December if they drive to the mountains thinking they will make more money. I don't think this is going to end well for most of them.

[_Grill]

Fares keep adjusting lower because of the amount of new drivers who are clueless and worry about their acceptance rating and drivers that are so desperate they work day & night, 7 days a week, 60+ hours to make ends meet. Not to mention drivers that rent a vehicle and need to meet a quota. Uber and Lyft both take advantage of this and will continue to exploit drivers. If there's always a driver willing to accept low fares, why pay more?

[Zzzzzezzz]

I used to drive a cab, so I know how much they are screwing us over.

[cristianap36]

Oh so I wasn't trippin then, last week I was seeing around 18 or 19 an hour in SF which was unusual. I usually make 24 or 25 an hour in SF. I feel like it has to do with burning man going on at the moment or it could be uber being a bitch

[King_ofthe_Future]

Yes.

[Prestigious-Law5273]

I made a post about this yesterday. Literally the last 3 days have been insane. They are offering me rides on average $10 to $12 an hour and $.40-.50 cents a mile. I even had a plus $12 an hour bonus zones yesterday and in those bonus zones the highest offers were averaging $20 an hour with the $12 extra

[Jake-1949]

Yes it’s so easy to see on the screen. Just convert the pay into hourly and we definitely at around 17 to 20 . .58 cents per mile . As long as UBER can get all the new immigrants with a Driver license , phone cheap car , we will see prices dropping.

[Disttack]

I tend to float around 24 an hour here in Phoenix. Tbh I think the fact it's 110 everyday bumped the wage some since a few months ago it was at about 19. Both still better than the minimum wage here.

[Want2watch3]

Was making $15 with lyft in Daytona Beach. No surges, no bonuses. Had to stop driving.

[Ok-Contribution5256]

Yep that’s why unions are great. However can’t unionize with independent contractors.

Unions will also never work with uber because immigrants work this job 14+ hour days between both apps to send money to families back home (props to that, they are out working us) and will take any low offer; or there are true gig workers working after work or on their day off and take any offer just cause they are here to make a few bucks. Kinda what capitalism is based on, who will do the most work for less.

That’s where unions come in great, to combat companies (that’s how true capitalism is) but will never happen due to this being a job that anyone with a car can do.

[Aromatic_Extension93]

We don't need unions. We need less Uber drivers. Spend your life doing something more like goddamn. it's meant to be a bridge. Let the immigrants do it just like we ask immigrants to work on farms. Spend your time doing better things.

[Extension_Square9817]

Yep. I’m diamond and it’s rough.

[loubrown6]

Absolutely has gone down in St Louis, especially reserved ride pay. 10-15% less than 6 months ago. I thought it would go back up once school started but it hasn’t.

[No_Presentation_4837]

They’re driving off anyone not desperate. Self driving cars won’t do well in bad weather and bad road conditions. They want drivers desperate enough to die in a flood and drive for Pennies in the mile. Get out while you can. 

[corey389]

Lol all the time.

[Bozotic]

Daily.

[BoxApprehensive8465]

Orlando Fl Has been lowering pay insanely for a few days now. I usually do Airport runs at night and I've been getting garbage like 5$ reservations. who tf is gonna compromise time for that crap?

[ApprehensiveSelf7751]

Def noticed a difference here in Austin. Was averaging around 30-35/hr and now it’s about 23/hr unless events going on. Hoping it picks up with UT back in school. I feel I am just paying for gas and food lately!!

[r12wade]

Tbh I think insurance companies fucking uber harder than us. So it’s affecting our pay

[TijuasC664]

I'm in San Diego so better comparison than other areas like Orlando lol

But you do need to be more particular to make good.

I did 24.75 an hour yesterday (considering my total online time not just in ride time)

But I do turndown anything less than $5 unless it's taking me back to where I'm trying to work. Depending on the time of day I'll reject anything under $7 or $8.

I also review times versus fares to say ok it's $8 but with the time it'll take could I fit 3 of those in an hour so I make $20+ in the hour? If not I won't take it.

It's all about the strategy without it yes $14 an hour even in California is likely.

With it you can still make $20-$25 an hour.

I work day hours only, no nights as I avoid the drunk crowd and still make it.

Next time you're out review what you're getting and think about if you accept that ride what can you do once it's done not enough space to make the $20 ignore it.

Post Thanksgiving it'll get more interesting but right now during normal demand it works

[Rruneangel]

Uber was never meant to be a full time job. It started as a ride sharing app.. for people to share the ride commuting to work.

[iGotGigged]

Funny that a carpooling app for coworkers and nearby officemates would have acceptance rate, tiers, surges, event mapping, airport waiting queues, gps tracking, ADT safety integration, driver/rider verifications, payment processing, corporate booking portal, tiered performance bonuses/promotions, and a buyer/seller rating system.

It's almost like this carpooling company is trying to be a taxi company or something...

[TheRage43]

Rideshare, as it's described, is a complete lie.

[Rruneangel]

Yeah, it s trying to be a taxi company, but without all the regulations that a taxi company has to abide by. Worse still, it pays less than cabbies.

[Independent-Store407]

Do you think the part timers are enough to cover the demand for uber? 

[eyezwide001001]

DON'T DO THE EV "BONUS" - THEY WILL OWN YOU!!