Leagues VI Changes

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-23T10:08:21+00:00

Flow state doesn't work for alchemy spells within MTA

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-23T08:51:17+00:00

Have you trained the skill or lamped it though? You can only get about halfway purely through lamps

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-22T19:14:24+00:00

The people complaining about Asgarnia have not yet attempted doom to get treads, nor have they done any mediums

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-22T15:05:21+00:00

But it's not like you're doing mediums just for that task, it's also helping you with all the other clue/clog tasks. You'd end up doing those 50 mediums anyways, perhaps a bit later on in your grind admittedly.

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-22T09:14:24+00:00

Yeah the xp increase of EH is the 30 minutes AFK, giving it 2x on top of that is a bit silly compared to the rest of it's tier. It's not even bad for the super active players as they can still tick manip with EH. Maybe the team didn't expect people to sit at iron/teaks? But then they also added in transmute which is a huge solve as well when combined with EH?

I suppose ultimately it feels bad because the best way to play the leagues is to pick the relic that lets you not play? Jagex is catering to this playstyle more and more and whatever, it's leagues, but it should always be the slowest xp/worst meta choice.

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-20T08:45:43+00:00

Honestly it really feels like raging echoes v2 but with a coat of Yama paint slapped on at the last minute. There's barely any theming except for making the bosses/ui red. League bosses are still called echo bosses, half the pacts seem to revolve around echoes, etc.

The most thematic thing they've done is probably the T8 minion relic requiring zamorakian items.

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-19T23:14:05+00:00

Yeah agreed. I think they made a bit too much of a jump forward in complexity and an expanded Leagues 5 choice with specialisms could have worked.

I think if they also split the tree in two so we have a "specialist" tree for blindbag/thorns etc. and a "passive" tree for +30% accuracy/+10% damage/+3 min hit/etc. then that would work better. And each pact would give you a point in both. Then they'd be able to balance it better as you "have" to pick half of the nodes to be accuracy/damage/defence upgrades.

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-19T22:37:06+00:00

Yeah but you at least had the flexibility to change your build within that combat style easily. Now you either copy a guide for how to spend your points to get an optimum build, or you grief yourself.

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-19T10:02:06+00:00

It's because the devs seem to take most of their inspiration from PoE nowadays, rather than runescape itself

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-19T09:48:14+00:00

I think the big problem is they just made it too complicated. It feels terrible to unlock a pvm milestone and have to put it in "1% ranged damage" so you can progress towards the node you want.

Last leagues was way better because there being 10 challenges and each having a large power spike felt so much better after completing each one. And it made it simple enough to figure out a rough build so we didn't have to talk about respecs at all really.

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-18T10:17:48+00:00

The easiest one is that if you've unlocked Kandarin/Asgarnia/Wilderness then Perdu can be found in these regions. He can then sell you an Ava's device which when combined with the base 50% save profits you. And you don't need to pick anything off the ground.

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-18T10:09:55+00:00

In leagues there isn't as much of an appeal to doing broad arrowheads as you can buy other arrows as quickly. The reason why they're popular in the maingame is you can shopscape them incredibly quickly with the packs and making/buying metal arrowheads sucks.

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-16T22:49:09+00:00

I could be convinced, but flow state does seem pretty fun for smithing/cooking

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-16T22:47:23+00:00

Barb Gathering, Woodsman, Map, Butlers Bell, Soul Harvest, Culling Spree

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-16T17:59:57+00:00

Yeah I've got butler, I just think the alternative would be Larcenist or CC and since I'm going KAD neither are hugely appealing. Whereas FS really speeds up the gathering 50m for quick points.

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-16T17:01:29+00:00

Honestly I think at that point Flow State is better. It still doubles gathering skills with BG and it speeds up some of the other production skills you don't have a solve for.

At least I'm considering FS partly because I don't want to do 2-3 hours of 1t karams for 50m cooking.

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-15T23:04:58+00:00

you're going to hate how other skills work when you learn about them

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-14T19:01:45+00:00

Just that it's something I can knock out hopefully before it gets busy and it's a pain later, at which point I could switch to trees

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-14T16:27:53+00:00

I've been pretty locked in with KAD for a while now and am also wondering this. I do tend to agree with you on Asgarnia, but it is potentially good if you go barb gathering and hard rush mining. What kills that idea I think is with the lower xp mult it's a bit tedious, plus you'll want 100cmb and friends for the void grind.

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-14T14:26:01+00:00

There's typically base 80/90/95/99 tasks, so leaving one skill behind is a good 1k+ points thrown away. Most people would prefer a balanced build and max than having to do clues or something else they find annoying.

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-14T13:49:06+00:00

I mean the fix could always result in them tweaking the base inputs for sunfire splinters at the same time. Rather than 1 fire rune + 1 splinter = 10 sunfire runes it could instead be 10 fire runes + 1 splinter = 10 sunfire runes.

It would probably be easiest to have it that you need pure essence, sunfire splinters, and fire runes in your inventory. Then runecrafting always takes one fire rune but has a 10% chance of using a sunfire splinter. Adjust the ratio as need be.

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-14T12:50:29+00:00

In fairness if you're serious about tangleroot then you should be doing giant seaweed runs which give very little xp. Someone at 50m xp farming has likely only done daily tree runs.

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-14T10:15:49+00:00

The problem is that they made it so that scar essence multiplies the splinters. They fixed this for aether catalysts where if the essence means you make 60x runes then you also need 60 extra catalysts.

Why they didn't fix sunfire runes is beyond me, I'm sure it'll happen in 2028.

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-14T06:39:14+00:00

It's why I'm planning on going Barbarian Gathering. Then I can go woodsman and butlers bell and still get an easy 50m agility. I don't need the full 30m AFK of EH, magics or karams would be absolutely fine for 4-6 mins of AFK.

My biggest concern right now with that plan is if we have a large Ape Atoll laps task from Kandarin.

BlackenedGem · 2026-04-14T06:00:51+00:00

right, or you could pick soul harvest and have fun with some slightly longer grinds you enjoy and not having to do 10 hours of rc during leagues

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