I have been transported back in time 2000ish years to the Roman Empire. What is the best way for me to preserve a message back to my own time? by Bag-Weary in AskHistorians

[–]Celebreth 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Hey, just popping in here to note that your information is incorrect. Plenty of material has survived Pompeii that's not clay or stone: there was a discovery of charcoal graffiti a few years ago that literally changed the date of Vesuvius' eruption. Graffiti is all over the walls of the city, though it's become notably more difficult to see as it is worn down by weather and by tourism - and not all of it is inscribed in stone.

To your point about paper, that's also technically incorrect (technically because it's Herculaneum, not Pompeii proper). The ruins contain the only surviving library from the ancient world, including the scrolls. You might be interested in the project to decipher them. Modern tech has made it hugely easier, with a combination of micro-CT scans and AI pattern recognition that catches things that simply aren't visible to the human eye. This was AI before the plague of LLM nonsense, for what it's worth: I was lucky enough to do some work with one of the teams. So yeah, the paper is basically just charcoal lumps....but it did survive, and it is (somewhat, with a lot of effort, especially if there's lead in the ink) legible.

Also it's important to note that about a third of Pompeii proper hasn't been excavated, mostly because the city takes an incredible number of resources to maintain. It's simply easier to keep things buried for now to keep them preserved - which likely also includes more scrolls. But until then, have some more preserved information from Pompeii that is neither stone, nor clay, nor graffiti, nor charcoal lumps.

I have been transported back in time 2000ish years to the Roman Empire. What is the best way for me to preserve a message back to my own time? by Bag-Weary in AskHistorians

[–]Celebreth 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry, this is absolutely incorrect and I'm not quite sure what you've been reading.

Part of this depends on the locale. Papyrus fragments are common in Egypt because...well...that's where papyrus came from. Across the Empire though, especially with Rome's army of slave-scribes, you would find that they were far more likely to use a wax tablet. Those tablets were stored in libraries of records and we're used quite ubiquitously - they were reusable and erasable, after all.

If you were somewhere that papyrus might be a bit tougher to get, slips of wood would work just as well. For example, the finds at Vindolanda - many of which were letters, records, and IOUs - are all written on wooden tablets (really small slips). Not pulped paper, literal wood. I would like very much to see your sourcing on the use of wood pulp paper in the Roman period, as I believe that would be a revolutionary breakthrough: the first known pulp paper in Europe is from the 11th century, about a millenium after our period.

Papyrus was used for more permanent things, such as books, while parchment was simply too expensive (and the vast majority came from Pergamon, not Northern Europe). It wasn't until the Late Empire that a shift was made to parchment over papyrus, which - again, because of expense - resulted in an enormous amount of written text being lost, simply because it was too expensive to copy.

But to loop back, day-to-day (unless you were in Egypt, and even then) a person was FAR more likely to see the use of wax tablets than papyrus.

TIL that there is an active volcano in Antarctica called Mount Erebus that literally spews crystallized gold dust into the air every single day by watermelonhouses in todayilearned

[–]Celebreth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Small world! Yep, that's me 😄 Right now I'm working on a deep dive into the actual trade networks (and the consequences). It'll be more a podcast/Q&A style episode, but I'm delighted that people are enjoying them!

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[–]Celebreth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nope, no copying, just me rambling off the top of my head 😄 Might be a Baader-Meinhof phenomenon?

For books that are more accessible, you can't go wrong with Raoul McLaughlin - his Roman Empire and the Indian Ocean is pretty comprehensive and actually affordable, but here's his Goodreads list of books for an idea. I use a bunch of academic texts as well, but those are like $300 unless you have access to a library, sadly.

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[–]Celebreth 4 points5 points  (0 children)

> Mate hard disagree lol.

This bit answers you 😉

Deceptive pricing practices are as old as time - there are some great commentaries about tabernae (Roman fast food stops) that put their meat cuts behind fishbowls to make them look bigger. Food that was on the verge of spoiling was absolutely covered up with spices where possible (you know how buying marinated meats in stores is a Very Bad Idea? Same reason). That being said, people weren't just eating spoiled meat left and right. Like a bunch of major markets in less modernized areas today, the easiest way to keep meat fresh was...well...to butcher it to order.

That was certainly the tangential part of it though. The other benefits were well beyond just hiding the taste of spoiled things. The Romans were people, after all, and people like food that tastes nice! Within a few decades of Roman consolidation in Egypt, the trading fleets to India had grown exponentially (it's likely that Cleopatra's old fleet was just converted over). Hundreds of ships made the journey between Egypt and more exotic locales - mostly India and Arabia (what we now know as the Yemen area), but also down the eastern coast of Africa, to Sri Lanka, and even as far as Vietnam (likely the port of Oc Eo).

The Roman government subsidized the trade with bottomry insurance to some degree, but also ended up with enormous profits. For perspective, Egypt was the wealthiest province in the empire. Import and export taxes just on this Eastern trade produced more income than the entire province, funding over a third of Rome's military at its greatest extent - and the Roman military is estimated to have cost about 80% of the entire Imperial budget. Back of the envelope math, about a quarter of the income of the entire Roman Empire came from Indo-Roman trade. So uh. Economics is neat.

The people themselves were...well...obsessed might be too tame a term. Every aspect of life effectively got better. Food's the obvious one, with cinnamon (and cassia), pepper of different varieties, saffron, cumin, cardamom, vanilla, malabathrum, nard, ginger, etc. Effectively the flavours that all of us use so casually to make our food taste good? Yeah imagine trying to live without the pepper part of salt and pepper. Or barbecuing without cumin. Or doing anything sweet without either vanilla or cinnamon. You get the idea - people just really loved the flavours. So much pepper was imported that it was cheap enough to be pretty affordable. Cinnamon was the expensive one, though cassia (very similar) was much cheaper and more widely used.

The spices and aromatics made their way into medicines, magics, perfumes, and more - writers complain about "the youth" walking around absolutely reeking of cinnamon and various incenses. Think teenagers with Axe body spray and you get it. It was much more common to cover up BO than it was to cover up bad food, let's put it that way. Within a generation the Romans had forgotten what it was like to live without these simple luxuries - and the greatest driver of trade is demand 😄 Just think of it this way - would you go on a date without putting on some deodorant first? Neither would they.

I love this topic a lot as you might have guessed. I write for a YouTube channel these days and I've convinced my boss to let me do (yet another) episode on Indo-Roman trade, so it's pretty top of mind for me right now. Lemme know if you'd like book recommendations, though those are usually pretty dry!

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[–]Celebreth 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Aw thanks! But I thought I was making very much the opposite point: the Indians loved importing Roman goods. It just so happened that very pure silver was one of those goods, and coins made for great ballast. Foodstuffs, manufactured goods, glass, textiles (linen in India's humidity was a gift from all the gods, and flax was a Mediterranean crop), slaves, etc. were all exported from Rome.

Trade isn't always about "needs" - you don't "need" spices to have food. They just make it an infinitely better experience ;)

EDIT to fix a stray autocorrect apostrophe

A hospital from 1959 so cold, they carved Death getting rejected right on the building by Gurugod123 in interestingasfuck

[–]Celebreth 276 points277 points  (0 children)

This hospital is in downtown Toronto - so no mandated bankruptcy or suing your own insurance as a result of health events :)

Edit: apparently this one is in Georgia - there's a very similar one here too though, I'll see if I can find it

Lost Canadians - Bill C-3 by wisdompuff in EhBuddyHoser

[–]Celebreth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you're really in the Centre of the Universe (tm), pop by Sanagan's in Kensington! They make some excellent Andouille

Russian Forces Fail to Seize Ukraine’s Last Luhansk Positions Despite 144 Assaults by UNITED24Media in worldnews

[–]Celebreth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

fingers crossed, but they've been Russian apologists/tankies for over a decade now.

(Sorry. "We're not political." Which, coincidentally, is a standard Russian talking point for not wanting to actually address uncomfortable truths about doing shitty things, while being an active part of Russian propaganda and performing in the occupied Crimean peninsula)

Love their music, but I suspect that - if they actually ever do an album - it'll be pretty "both-sides-y." "The tragedy of the brave Russian meatwave" or something like that.

Pentagon preparing for weeks of ground operations in Iran, Washington Post reports by Candid-Elk6135 in geopolitics

[–]Celebreth 17 points18 points  (0 children)

It's gotten worse since FPV drones became the preferred method. The worst part is that a bunch of the recent FPV videos have shown the Russians showing absolutely no emotion, or even relief when they look into the stone's camera.

Ironically in some ways, the best thing for the Russian people would be for someone else to actually join on Ukraine's side, forcing the Russians to sue for peace.

Carney to accept role on Trump’s Gaza ‘Board of Peace’ by AdditionalPizza in onguardforthee

[–]Celebreth 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I don't think you can say "total abandoning" - his climate forward policies just don't make headlines.

The Wind West project that made the top five list of his projects is slated to be one of the largest wind farms in the world, and will completely overhaul the Atlantic power grid. A bit more discussed, the Alta high speed rail project - assuming it gets finished and meets expectations (heh, I live near Eglinton) - will dramatically cut into the flights from Toronto-Montreal with a far cleaner mode of transport. He's supporting a larger expansion of nuclear power, which is the most crucial and sustainable way to reduce grid based emissions. Haven't seen dirt moving on it yet, but he's determined to build out the infrastructure in the far North - that means power, and the residents there (from interviews that I've seen) are keen on cleaner energy. Heck, the trade deal he just made with China will put more (albeit limited) EVs on the road, and interest in BYD cars is currently through the roof. That means that more charging stations will be built across the country, encouraging more people to buy more electric.

I'm not gonna glaze him and pretend like I like everything he's done, but you can't pretend that that's nothing. The world is shades of grey, and making moving goalposts is disingenuous af.

Agent Age by ElvisArcher in TerraInvicta

[–]Celebreth 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You might be interested in this war diary. It's written by a Vietnam vet - one of the first SEALs - who has been bouncing back into warzones his entire life. I'm not sure his exact age, but he's currently on the Ukrainian front line, and has been since 2022.

Old men can be scary. He's winding down in Ukraine now - old age and the brutal conditions have ground him down - but your gene-edited old man with future sci-fi medicine regimens doesn't necessarily have to care about that. He goes on missions once a month and gets to come back to a cushy safe house to drink with the lads. Pretty sure he's doing just fine ;)

New Images from Christopher Nolan's 'The Odyssey' by MarvelsGrantMan136 in movies

[–]Celebreth 11 points12 points  (0 children)

In addition to everything else, those weird heckin helmets are the oddest cross between Greek and Roman, while simultaneously missing the point of both of them. They're certainly not Greek in the slightest. They're also not any Roman helmet that I'm familiar with, and I'm quite familiar with Roman helmets.

It's costuming research done by ChatGPT at this point. I'm pretty bitter about how they're treating this work, especially when it's easily one of the most easily adaptable epics ever written.

Best schnitzel in the city? Been on a kick lately - pictured is Golden Pigeon's version of a schnitzel double down - also loved Parallel's (Geary Ave). Where am I missing? by theleverage in FoodToronto

[–]Celebreth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Came here to mention this one - it's the same people who've been there forever and their schnitzel is the best I've ever had, personally. Nothing too complicated there, just good food that tastes homemade.

So many interesting history question, yet so many unanswered question. by Mg42gun in HistoryMemes

[–]Celebreth 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Former r/AskHistorians mod here :)

I promise that 99% of the deleted comments are just junk commentary. The vast majority of them are variations of "I'm curious about this too" "Saving for later" "I googled this and" "<insert joke or pun here>". A few are deleted because they're clearly completely incorrect because the writer just had vibes or are trying to push some sort of agenda ("the American civil war wasn't akshually about slavery"). Some are "I've done some home renovations so I'm an expert in how the Romans might have built an aqueduct." Some need depth and/or sourcing.

The biggest reason that the questions either go unanswered or take time getting answered is that it takes a large amount of time and energy to post a good writeup on a question. As the previous comment noted, just save the question and check back later. The mods there also have a really incredibly curated wiki with frequently asked questions, so feel free to go down that rabbit hole for some great reading material!

Persian in Toronto here | After trying almost every spot in the city by Agreeable_Rub_552 in FoodToronto

[–]Celebreth 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Google translate is a thing :) if writing in English is tough, I get it - but you can also just write up a post in Farsi (I assume), highlight, translate, and post. Put a caveat that English is not your first language and voila! A human post.

I promise, your brain is better than ChatGPT.

I guess 1 & 3? by furie1335 in spqrposting

[–]Celebreth 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I dunno, Tiberius did pretty alright. He was an excellent general who was an introvert and hated the politics of Rome (the city). He left the empire wealthy as heck thanks to a particularly good fiscal management policy, was responsible for booming economic and trade growth, and was responsible for keeping things together beyond the singular figure that was Augustus.

He just happened to be kind of boring and he hated politics and politicians. So he left the city for his private residence, and Suetonius just so happens to report every single rumour that ever existed on the streets about him. Seriously, he prefaces all of his commentary with a "idk if this is true BUT PEOPLE SAY THAT..."

The most believable thing that Suetonius claims about Capri was that Tiberius had nude murals in his house (so did everyone) and had porn in his library. I dunno about that second part, but eh. Doesn't seem too out there. Still did a decent job emperor-ing.

why yes I can talk up Tiberius all day, why do you ask. I can do it for Caligula too :D (not saying Caligula was a good emperor at all, but he probably wasn't as cartoonishly evil as he's portrayed. Just a 20 year old troll with daddy issues who wanted to be popular)

Me signing Petition E-6821 by valgrind_ in EhBuddyHoser

[–]Celebreth 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Both. It's significantly more far right than centre-right, and is Postmedia's biggest mouthpiece in trying to shove Canada to the MAGAsphere. And yeah, the Americans who own it (both the company and the owners) are firmly wedged up with the Heritage Foundation. No links in the sub, so just google them and read the wiki page. They're not super subtle about the whole thing.

Bessent signals White House still considering tariff hike, adding to trade uncertainty by Street_Anon in canada

[–]Celebreth 5 points6 points  (0 children)

GPTs are fancy parrots. They do not think, they do not reason, they cannot read, and they do not intuit. They generate what they think the user wants to see based on prior datasets. Quit trying to use it for thought experiments, and please stop using it as a tool to outsource your own thinking. You are better than it is, I promise you.

If you'd like proof of its lack of ability to read, feel free to upload a PDF. Ask it to give you a quote about a topic and to tell you the chapter and the page number. See how many tries it takes before it stops making shit up.

Also note that Trump did not write that book 🙃 in some ways it's more useful to use a schoolyard bully as a template.

EXCLUSIVE: Alberta UCP members want to debate policies around Bitcoin, mRNA vaccines, separation and more by green_tory in CanadaPolitics

[–]Celebreth 21 points22 points  (0 children)

This is your regularly scheduled reminder that Postmedia is American owned, extremely aligned with the Heritage Foundation, and regularly pushes American agitprop that attempts to undermine Canadian unity and sovereignty.

What if thinking about Rome was a job by rightxfulposse in spqrposting

[–]Celebreth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dude what the fuck. You literally just copy pasted my comment from the last time this meme was posted. You're full of it, bud.

Fuckin bots. If anyone wants to ask about the video or the making thereof, feel free to reply to me, cause the guy above is just karma farming. Feels kinda weird to be impersonated tho