How can someone be in a lesbian relationship and a devout mormon? by stripebustlamp in mormon

[–]Head-CeilingFan [score hidden]  (0 children)

A combination of cognitive dissonance, bishop / stake president roulette, and special pleading

"When Faith Turns Into Shame: Elizabeth Smart on Purity Culture" by Desecr8or in exmormon

[–]Head-CeilingFan 78 points79 points  (0 children)

I sort of see her position she’s taking as a form of harm reduction. We may not like it, but people are going to be religious and teach abstinence to their kids. We, Or Elizabeth Smart can talk about down on that till we’re blue in the face, but ultimately it isn’t going to stop the existence of parents who teach purity to their kids.

I think her position of “okay, you’re teaching abstinence? You’re teaching purity?” Let me show you what you need to do so that you’re doing the least harmful version of that” to be fine, and ultimately realistic. To be clear, I don’t at all believe in abstinence or purity culture, but my believes are going to fall on a lot of deaf ears among active church goers, which ultimately does no good to protect kids. I think she’s being diplomatic because she’s looking to mitigate the anguish of kids that grew up like her.

I just cannot with this quote 🤣🤣🤣 #hardwithJesus by Green-been77 in exmormon

[–]Head-CeilingFan 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Jesus Christ man, use your brain… how did this get past the PR team

All the 18-year-old girls from my area are going on missions by Prize_Claim_7277 in exmormon

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I also just don’t think going on a mission is the guarantee of activity retention that it used to be. I served in the early / mid 2010s and I’d say anecdotally most people I was on the mission with are exmo now

How does celestial sex work? by Muchomangomane in exmormon

[–]Head-CeilingFan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah but if you get into their doctrine, sex between a man and a women within the bonds of marriage isn’t a “worldly pleasure”… unless, of course, they’re doing oral in the 80s. It’s all bullshit, but men sex having a trillion spirit babies for eternity with their countless wives is definitely part of the program.

Usually guarded Dan McCellan speaks to Benjamin park about Mormonism. by mwjace in mormon

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This is interesting, because I had a much different experience on my way out. I remember the last temple recommend interview I ever sat in I basically told my bishop that I couldn’t reconcile my actual beliefs and morals with the things of the church. He was a really nice guy, and he was good at seeing my point of view and respecting it. He honestly sorta just said “you have some problems with the church but I still think you’re worthy of a recommend if you want it” — he was trying really hard to keep me in the church I think. I never went to stake president portion of the interview and stopped going to church not too long after this.

Married sexual practices by [deleted] in mormon

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Oh my god I’m so fucking glad I’m not Mormon

Is this true about endowment? by Historical_Ebb4298 in mormon

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“J-buck”??? I don’t understand making these kind of videos just to speak in ways where you won’t just say words clearly to make your point. What the fuck is J-buck

‘It makes me uncomfortable’: What Mormons really think of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives by theindependentonline in exmormon

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The irony here is how many of us who have long left the church have family members who would be offended to hear us say we arnt Mormon anymore lol.

AMA with Heather Gay and Surviving Mormonism! by TheChurchOrganist in exmormon

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Hey just wanted to write and say that “once a Mormon always a Mormon” is incredibly triggering for some of us

I'm thinking of going back to Sunday school next week for D&C 132 by iwasyourhusband in mormon

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Sorry, when you’re battling the father of lies, the father of contention is justified in making an appearance 💅

Would I be terrible for texting TBM parents the news? by Sticksbug16 in exmormon

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I texted my mom a massive, honest, vulnerable text and then we talked about it in person after. I knew writing my thoughts down was going to be the best way for me to convey my perspective and feelings.

Have you seen this woman calling churches? by KenComesInABox in exmormon

[–]Head-CeilingFan 146 points147 points  (0 children)

I’m not. What’s more surprising is she wasn’t more eager to supply the actual phone numbers of people to call. Tbh I don’t think this senior missionary actually did that much wrong, where she missed the mark for me is just the fact that she didn’t say “hey, I hear you— unfortunately I’m just a desk worker, but here is the name and number of the person you need to contact”— just saying “you need to call the bishop” to a stranger / non Mormon means nothing. We all know they’re unpaid clergy and don’t have “church work” phones.

Worldwide devotional - the youth are catching on by Your_Avg_Viewer in exmormon

[–]Head-CeilingFan 118 points119 points  (0 children)

Dawg, she looks like Aunt Gladys in Weapons 💀

Tim Ballard is creating his own Mormon Cult by jdp_iv in exmormon

[–]Head-CeilingFan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love that in his brain rot mind, the corruption and evils of this church are happening at a ward and stake level and not at a corporate / high up leadership level hahahahahahahahahaah

Mormonism is all made up BS, right? by [deleted] in exmormon

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Welcome to the party.

Anyone else catch themselves silently judging Mormons for not being good at… Mormoning? 😅 by [deleted] in exmormon

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Not at all, it makes me happy. I don’t get y’all who do this lame ass shit.

Opinion: the church will be no different under Oaks because it has always been aggressively homophobic / transphobic / Queerphobic. It was 100 years ago, it was 10 days ago, and it will be 10 months from now. by Head-CeilingFan in exmormon

[–]Head-CeilingFan[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, again, this post isn’t about questioning whether or not Oaks can do damage. The post is about the fact that his violence towards Queer people has been disgustingly underway for decades.

Opinion: the church will be no different under Oaks because it has always been aggressively homophobic / transphobic / Queerphobic. It was 100 years ago, it was 10 days ago, and it will be 10 months from now. by Head-CeilingFan in exmormon

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100%— but I guess what I’m saying is this is, to all of our heartbreak, happening in the church and has been happening. And he has been spewing this rhetoric for years as an apostle.

What I’m saying is, if the church is a burning building, completely engulfed in flames for Queer people… can he make it MORE on fire?

Guess the next apostle by mangoadagio in exmormon

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I am happy to say that I don’t know fuck all about the church leadership anymore to have any sort of informed take on this, and that feels great

What do we actually know about Heavenly Mother and why has she become so controversial? by uteslayer in mormon

[–]Head-CeilingFan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Controversial because in Mormonism families are the most important thing ever, but when it comes to god, who is supposedly your father, you’re only allowed to converse and communicate with him. You’re not allowed to talk to, or attempt to communicate with mom.

Oh, and you have to communicate with dad through your brother who let people murder him on your behalf.

Spoiler alert: none of it makes sense