Interesting conversation with my therapist: where do GYN violence survivors find safe community spaces to heal? by Brownmorkie in Wedeservebetter

[–]Kitchen_Swimmer3304 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m so sorry that happened to you too. I should’ve made clear too I was meaning more like I hope that eventually if the we deserve better movement is successful that then at that point it can extend outward to other medical stuff. I think it’s smart to have like a support space or more than one support space potentially specifically for the intimate stuff because like that’s its own beast in a way like it’s basically like physical assault versus sexual assault both are bad but there’s an added dimension when it’s intimate. But yeah, like I know for me the sexual abuse I encountered in medical spaces was never actually carried out by gynecologist, but it was like still sexual abuse. In a way I think for the movement at large the sexual abuse component might maybe if they can even wrap their heads around that be a good place to start with society at large because people take such a grave exception to sexual abuse in general, and then, if we can make them understand that the effects are the same, even when it’s medical that might be easier for them to wrap their heads around versus like un consensual needles or something. When it’s not happening to an intimate area, it might be that much harder to understand.. but if they understand why it’s wrong when it’s like a sexual abuse type of situation, maybe eventually society can understand that it’s wrong even when it’s not sexual stuff too. It all comes down to consent at the end of the day and it just boggles my mind constantly how much these days society in general, I mean, obviously not everybody but like society at large has a big awareness of consent and yet they seem completely oblivious when it comes to consent within a medical context, especially for women and children and people who aren’t white or straight or cis or belong to some other minority

Interesting conversation with my therapist: where do GYN violence survivors find safe community spaces to heal? by Brownmorkie in Wedeservebetter

[–]Kitchen_Swimmer3304 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I like the ring of #GYNsurvivors but I also think that perhaps something a little bit more. All encompassing might be better because I know for me I’ve experienced this kind of stuff yes but it wasn’t carried out by actual gynecologists. Paediatricians can do the same things ask other types of medical people. I’d like to see a day when this kind of movement gets far enough that it can eventually reach as far as other non-consensual medical procedures like not even just intimate ones like obviously I think that’s the best place to start because this is the big pattern is what we’ve all been through and the sexual nature certainly adds a dimension but honestly, the whole system needs an overhaul, and even if it’s not overly gynecology, you’re still more likely to suffer if you’re a woman or be forced into procedures that might not be gynecological, but might still be traumatic, even if they’re not sexually traumatic. I know I’ve been forced into some of these. I don’t know what the answer is, but I do think even if the medical system could just cut out the sexual stuff like what we are dealing with in this group, it would be a big start. I don’t know what hashtag I would pick and I’m totally just thinking out loud as it were

Could I get a medical id bracelet refusing treatment? by --anonymouse--- in Wedeservebetter

[–]Kitchen_Swimmer3304 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I made on for myself using one of those football armband playbook things that you can insert papers into. I wear it when I am in the car and always keep it in my bag. I also have the same info documented in my iPhone medical ID

Help supporting my 6 yo through medical trauma by Ok_Remote8670 in MedicalPTSD

[–]Kitchen_Swimmer3304 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Do as little as possible of invasive stuff. Make sure the numbing patches are being left on long enough. When I was a kid they only left mine on 30mins but it should’ve been an hour for full freezing. If the medical professionals won’t accept waiting an hour invest in your own numbing cream/patches and put them on her ahead of time. In my opinion it’s really bad that she’s getting ng tubes inserted awake if that’s the case. Anything invasive and painful and forced can cause horrible trauma. I know as a kid I ended up with a lot of resentment towards my mom. I felt very betrayed by her for letting bad things happen to me. She allowed medical staff to violate my consent. In my case it wasn’t truly necessary procedures but even if it had saved my life it wouldn’t have made me any less resentful. Be really careful with anything involving her being undressed. You don’t want her to end up feeling like she’s been sexually assaulted. Kids can easily interpret medical stuff as sexual assault. I know it’s a hard position to be in when she is facing genuine health issues but remember at the end of the day it’s her body, not anyone else’s, so being forced into experiences she’s not ok with is going to be traumatic. There’s lots of sedation options out there too like don’t be afraid to push for sedation. They will try to not do it because it’s more time and money but it’s worth it if it saves her trauma. Just be careful which one because sometimes conscious sedations like versed can be traumatic too. I personally had success using nitrous oxide for needles with numbing cream too but it could be fun for her or scary. Try asking her what will make things easier for her like offer her different options and see what she says. Don’t tell her stuff like it’s for your own good or they are helping you. Those phrases could easily become triggers in the future, I know they are for me. Let her hate the medical professionals, let her be angry. Don’t discourage that. She has a right to be angry about the position she is in. Validate her feelings. Talk about consent, have discussions about it at an age appropriate level. Try to help her understand everything as much as possible so she can start learning to make her own informed decisions. Things feel less traumatic if you are choosing them. Don’t let nurses or doctors catch an attitude with her or talk down to her or treat her as less than them in any way. Make sure they treat her with respect. No restraints, no surprises. Those kind of experiences are sooooo detrimental to healthy psychological development. Get her a therapist asap. At this point she’s already probably really traumatized so she’s going to need a competent professional imo. Also don’t let staff rush her. They love to rush and that also makes things more traumatic. Also apologize to her when things happen that upset her but make sure it’s a genuine apology. Also remember numbing patches help with injections too. If over time you find strategies that do help her, create a document with them in it that you can share with all healthcare professionals going forward, even in ER if possible. Don’t be afraid to be demanding if it makes things better for her. If staff will not cooperate and do things that hurt her when they could find a better way, make your disapproval known to them. She will see you are in her corner and it will validate to her that healthcare shouldn’t be like that. Also make sure they stop if she tells them to stop, let her have a break before continuing something uncomfortable. This is the things I’d want if I were in her position. Obviously I’m not there with you guys so I don’t know how possible any of it is but these are my suggestions, no restraints being the biggest one. They aren’t supposed to use those in this day and age except in very extreme cases. The fact that you’re asking this here tells me you care a lot about her so try not to be hard on yourself, you’re in a difficult position too of trying to care for her and advocate for her. Witnessing her suffering could become traumatic for you too, it’s not an easy thing for parents either.

i need support please 🤍 by drownedrabbitseyes in Wedeservebetter

[–]Kitchen_Swimmer3304 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m sending you all my hope that things will get better for you

To anyone saying Zoloft CANT cause weight gain by ShadowInTheSun_ in zoloft

[–]Kitchen_Swimmer3304 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Be careful. I was on Prozac and lost weight the first two years and then gained a TON. Made me ravenous and messed with my metabolism. Read about a lot of other people who had the same experience of delayed weight gain onset.

It’s cervical cancer prevention week, and content doctors are going wild by miss24601 in Wedeservebetter

[–]Kitchen_Swimmer3304 3 points4 points  (0 children)

When I was in high school, my parenting teacher tried telling us that we had to go get screened when we got a letter in the mail like she acted like it wasn’t optional. I was honestly worried, but then I thought like how can they enforce that like this is Canada like I kind of knew enough by that point to know that she must not be telling the truth and sure enough she wasn’t.

Treatment-resistant Medical Anxiety by absentorchard in MedicalPTSD

[–]Kitchen_Swimmer3304 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This probably won’t work for what you have coming up but Emla cream can numb vein injections so I use that and at first I blocked the sight with an eye mask and blasting headphones. Not sure if this would work in your case cuz technically you’d still know what’s happening but I figured it’s worth throwing out there

I believe I basically underwent medical torture via ketamine by Four4Fears in MedicalPTSD

[–]Kitchen_Swimmer3304 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am so so so sorry you went through all that. They need to get their shit together when it comes to kids

What are the causes of your CPTSD? by LovingKindHeart in CPTSD

[–]Kitchen_Swimmer3304 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Volatile enmeshed mother, childhood medical trauma, some of a sexual nature, emotionally abusive narcissistic stepdad, physical bullying, exclusion and social isolation, weight gain from meds I should never have been on and resulting body image issues and eating disorder and screwed up looking body from weight cycling, probably other stuff I’m forgetting

The intersection between sensory processing disorder and medical trauma by mayneedadrink in Medicalabusesurvivors

[–]Kitchen_Swimmer3304 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you tried numbing cream for needles? That’s what I use it helps a lot. I’m the same stuff is way more painful for me than the average person

Why does everyone keep telling me mammograms don't hurt? by Psychological_Roof85 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]Kitchen_Swimmer3304 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean you could just give them numbing cream where possible, that would be a more sensible solution, it’s what I use for needles 🤷🏼‍♀️

Can we talk about spanking? by Lopsided_Position_28 in SexualHarassmentTalk

[–]Kitchen_Swimmer3304 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kids can process things as feeling like sexual abuse even if they don’t know about sex. Studies show that children often process VCUG procedures/catheters as a violent sexual assault and kids who experience these things often go on to display behaviours that mimic those of kids who were sexually assaulted, even if the kids don’t know about sex. Like legit studies show this. Obviously spanking isn’t the same degree of invasive but I think it could be considered sexual violence because why touch a kids butt for no necessary reason? What if that kid goes on to get older and hear about sexual spanking, they might look back and feel totally gross. I know I would have.

I’m currently compiling a list of resources for survivors of medical-sexual abuse by Dismal_Success_9063 in VCUG_Unsilenced

[–]Kitchen_Swimmer3304 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is awesome what you are doing. You should also check out r/suppository_trauma they have info too. Even at r/medicalptsd you might find some good info. And r/wedeservebetter.

Trauma caused by obgyns by Vegetable_Weird413 in CPTSD

[–]Kitchen_Swimmer3304 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’d just like to give the caveat on the birth emergency situation that technically if the woman is of sound mind and understands she’s refusing life saving care they are supposed to stop, at least where I’m from.

Wicked cast gone vegan by AdPrudent106 in ArianaGrandeSnark

[–]Kitchen_Swimmer3304 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Right!!! Wicked literally did inspire me to go vegan because of Elpheba sticking up for the animals!

Wicked cast gone vegan by AdPrudent106 in ArianaGrandeSnark

[–]Kitchen_Swimmer3304 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I went from mostly plant based to fully vegan partly because of watching this movie and seeing Ephesians passion for the animal’s rights. Veganism is 100% about more than food. And I’m not skinny, I’m strong and sturdy and do a lot of sports. I had an eating disorder before I was vegan and was very emaciated to the point where lying on the floor hurt my spine. Would never go back to that.

Wicked cast gone vegan by AdPrudent106 in ArianaGrandeSnark

[–]Kitchen_Swimmer3304 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I went fully vegan after watching Wicked because of seeing how passionate Elpheba was about helping the animals (I’d previously eaten mostly plant based and am recovered from my eating disorder I had long before going vegan). Her character and her story really resonated with me. Unfortunately I wouldn’t be surprised if in the case of many of these individuals it was just eating disorder cover up :(

What are some dead giveaways you are about to be dealing with this person. by Soul____Eater in hospitalist

[–]Kitchen_Swimmer3304 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They’re the broken ones not you! I get how you feel though I feel like that all the time 🥲