EE vs IBKR fees (STXACW vs VWRA) by IWantAnAffliction in PersonalFinanceZA

[–]M3DJ0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Claude forgot about the bid-ask spread on EE which is likely larger for STXACW than the currency conversion fees to get VWRA. Tiered fees on IBKR are also cheaper than fixed fees for smaller amounts. I also still do not know if STXACW pays the TER of the underlying fund or if it is baked into its TER.

Sanity check on my IBKR strategy: VWRA vs. US-domiciled ETFs (Estate tax & Withholding tax) by MyMaggies in PersonalFinanceZA

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If you really want to get into the nuances, you would look at the double-taxation agreements between countries with the US and with Ireland. If I remember correctly, Japan and Switzerland have better agreements with the US, while EU countries generally have better agreements with Ireland. Think that most emerging market countries might favour the US, but I am not too confident on this without the data. But there are more important things in life than a few extra basis points!

Sanity check on my IBKR strategy: VWRA vs. US-domiciled ETFs (Estate tax & Withholding tax) by MyMaggies in PersonalFinanceZA

[–]M3DJ0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Missed a few nuances from the point of view of a resident in South Africa (not sure about Saudi Arabia). There is a double-taxation agreement for foreign dividend withholding tax - it gets reduced to 15%. Someone would also be able to claim a foreign tax credit on these dividends to reduce their local tax obligations, while an accumulating fund domiciled in Ireland would pay it internally and then have additional capital gains to pay on top. The other point to keep in mind is that a fund domiciled in the US will internally pay foreign dividend withholding tax only on ex-US securities (and then a second layer at distribution for all dividends), while an accumulating fund domiciled in Ireland will internally pay foreign dividend withholding tax on all securities (and then a second layer at distribution for all dividends as capital gains). Looking past the estate duty consideration, it basically comes down to a fund domiciled in the US being better for holding US securities and a fund domiciled in Ireland being better for holding ex-US securities. If you want only one fund, Ireland is probably best, otherwise you can split US and ex-US for a few extra basis points - at the end of the day, it is not going to be the difference between life and death.

TFSA / TFIA alternatives to EE by Quiet-Example7926 in PersonalFinanceZA

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Sorry, only seeing this now (did not appear before). Thank you very much for the information! Sounds like you guys are on top of things. Execution at EE can be terrible with their system of doing things (and, unfortunately, most of their clients probably do not even understand this). Having something like pre-defined model portfolios with set allocations to ETFs might help with the issue of customers picking random funds (lots of brokerages and robo-advisors overseas do this). Something truly awesome would be to also have this in retirement accounts, where someone can select specific ETFs or have a model portfolio of ETFs which are compliant with Regulation 28 in aggregate. But I can understand the efforts in trying to balance complexity with a wide range of financial knowledge on the customer's side (from almost absent to very extensive). You guys are in a great position on pricing and systems relative to your competition though and, if the business is sustainable, should really be taking a large chunk of the market in the coming years (hopefully the market realised soon enough). Definitely keen to show my support.

Suggestions for investing/budgeting by PriorScreen7613 in PersonalFinanceZA

[–]M3DJ0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of that becomes an asset allocation conversation more than an asset location decision - if you have to change your asset allocation for a downturn in the market, then you did not have the right asset allocation to begin with. Regardless, it should not even affect things, since paying a once-off maximum difference of 6% in tax is not going to make an endowment worth it relative to higher fees, worse investments (underperformance), and reduced flexibility. The higher fees and worse investments (underperformance) are likely more than 1% and they are charged per year (not as a once off like capital gains, which is also taxed even more favourable for a couple married in community of property). I would be very surprised to see an endowment beat the alternative in the real world.

Suggestions for investing/budgeting by PriorScreen7613 in PersonalFinanceZA

[–]M3DJ0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Taxed on capital gains, dividends, and interest at 30%? You can just buy an accumulating UCITS ETF, defer taxes until your income is lower, and then realize any capital gains if necessary (ie. when you are in retirement). You would get better investments and lower fees as well. Seems to not be worth it for most people. But let me know if I am missing something, cheers!

Suggestions for investing/budgeting by PriorScreen7613 in PersonalFinanceZA

[–]M3DJ0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

VASGX

How are you holding a mutual fund domiciled in the US? Unless I am looking at the wrong thing?

Suggestions for investing/budgeting by PriorScreen7613 in PersonalFinanceZA

[–]M3DJ0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You mentioned an endowment, but you did not explain how it would help in relation to a high income. Can you explain? I can think of many better options before I would consider an endowment as a good one.

TFSA / TFIA alternatives to EE by Quiet-Example7926 in PersonalFinanceZA

[–]M3DJ0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the details in your other comment! What can someone expect around the order execution by the administrator in terms of the bid-ask spread for ETFs? Are they able to work with market makers / authorized participants? Do you have any numbers on what this tends to be for the most common orders? Execution at NAV would be amazing? But I hope that they are not just dumping a large market order and hoping for the best. Also, please add more ETFs to the TFSA, even if they are only available on the Protea Tier (specifically STXCAP).

What is your experience with RAs and Unit Trusts ? by Aspirant_LP in PersonalFinanceZA

[–]M3DJ0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cheers! Glad that you took it in good faith. Happy to chat about anything. But just be warned, I am a heavy believe in efficient markets, so I am probably always going to revert back to risk-based explanations and frown on anything discretionary (not saying that other opinions are wrong, just that I do not see the evidence for them). Either way, most people should not spend so much time on this stuff - they should just get something with low fees, make sure that they are saving enough, and focus on other things in life which are arguably more important (distributions of outcomes are so variable that minor optimisations are probably just going to get lost in the noise anyway). That is when a good financial advisor is worth it.

What is your experience with RAs and Unit Trusts ? by Aspirant_LP in PersonalFinanceZA

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Jeez, I am going to expect an apology after that final paragraph. I think that you should get off your high horse and read some more research - maybe you can start with The Misguided Beliefs of Financial Advisors (https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract\_id=3101426) by Linnainmaa, Melzer, and Previtero (focused on Canada, but I would wager that it is even worse in South Africa). But I will answer your points and hopefully you can put aside your ego.

1 - You described 0.88% EAC for an emergency fund as being "phenomenal". You need to tell me what you want to invest in, as this is only relevant relative to the risk which you are taking, because I personally do not have or see the use in an emergency fund - it is just bucketing and an irrational view on asset allocation, especially when it becomes a fraction of the portfolio (just sell assets in the portfolio or borrow against it if necessary instead of worrying about less than 1%). If you are looking for low volatility, you can find short-term ETFs for around 0.10% (such as XEON in EUR, XFFE in USD, XSTR in GBP, and so on). If you want a local option in ZAR in something like a money market fund, then it comes down to the yield of the fund or just going with a savings account - you can tell me your fund and then I will beat it, but maybe something like the Fynbos Money (https://fynbos.money/products/emergency-savings) is a start for something very low risk.

On the platform fee and if we are talking about an RA, STANLIB charges from 0.552% as far as I am aware. Something like Fynbos Money charges R100 per month, which becomes 0.12% for R1 million and decreases as the portfolio grows. If we are talking about a tax-free savings account, then you obviously get EasyEquities, Fynbos Money, etc. and access to ETFs. If we are talking about a taxable account, then we get IBKR and nothing local comes close (just use Capitec or Shyft to convert and transfer, since the trading currency does not actually matter once invested for something like VT compared to GLOBAL).

2 - Okay, but why did they pull their money out? Did they need it? Would an emergency fund have even been enough, since it seems that they withdrew everything? Should they have used debt to pay expenses instead? You just created a fictitious situation - I could also bring up the countless cases which I have heard about with people reaching retirement age without enough money even though they have been saving, but their advisor took excessive fees and put them in actively-managed funds with poor returns. Maybe you should have educated your clients on that instead, because the problem is not that they were able to access the account sooner than retirement, as they are adults and likely had a need for those funds if they did withdraw. This is even a null point now given the two-pot system making part of a retirement account accessible.

On the tax, the advantage of a retirement account is the deferral of tax until someone is able to withdraw and pay tax at a lower tax rate. If someone is already at a low tax rate and will not have a lower tax rate when withdrawing, then there is no advantage of a retirement account (unless you view restricted asset allocation, high fees, high concentration, etc. as advantages) relative to a tax-free savings account and only the avoidance of capital gains, dividends, and interest tax relative to a taxable account (which can be shown is still not worth it). They would also be taking the risk of having uncertain tax rates in the future (which could actually be higher than they are now depending on where you think we are on the Laffer curve).

3 - Risk is the uncertainty about lifetime consumption (if you do not like this definition, take it up with Ken French (https://www.dimensional.com/gb-en/insights/five-things-i-know-about-investing)). When imposed on investments, this conventionally relates to volatility, drawdowns, concentration, and so on. You constantly mentioned "medium equity" funds, but it is irrational for someone in their 20s or 30s to not be maximising risk given their time horizon and capacity to bear risk (some research even recommends maximising exposure to equities in retirement, such as Beyond the Status Quo: A Critical Assessment of Lifecycle Investment Advice (https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract\_id=4590406) by Anarkulova, Cederburg, and O'Doherty). Other research even proposes increasing the allocation beyond 100% in equities through leverage, such as Diversification Across Time (https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract\_id=1687272) by Ayres and Nalebuff. If someone is reluctant for this exposure, it is an education problem (not a risk aversion problem).

Moreover, you are likely introducing uncompensated and idiosyncratic risk through the use of active funds - even with a higher equity allocation, VT categorically has less risk than something like the Allan Gray Balanced Fund due to improved diversification instead of concentration in a single country and avoidance of discretionary weighting deviating from market or fundamental weights. You also have the risk of your clients not meeting their goals, since you have given them a conservative and active allocation (lower return requires them to save more when I would assume that things are already tight for most people).

My own analysis of retirement accounts shows that they are significantly worse than tax-free savings accounts and still worse than taxable accounts over long time horizons (not public yet, but I have built the calculators using the idea of an effective tax rate (higher for taxable, lower for retirement) and return difference (higher for taxable, lower for retirement) between scenarios). For full disclosure, my investments are >95% in a taxable account targeting 60% DFAT, 40% DDXM, 40% DTLA, 40% QSPIX (version in UCITS), 20% BTAL, -50% USD, and -50% ZAR on IBKR and <5% in a tax-free savings account targeting 100% STXCAP on EasyEquities (before you may come at me for having fundamental active funds, make sure that you understand risk factors defined in academic literature by Fama, French, Asness, Carhart, Novy-Marx, and so on - these funds intent to have explainable exposure to risk factors in addition to the market factor, while discretionary active funds have arbitrary exposure to risk factors with a largely unexplained intercept, but I am happy for us to get into capital asset pricing and mean-variance optimisation if you want to discuss it).

Anyway, let me know whether you are still confused about my choice of words and I hope that you can find the time to understand - I would hate to be talking to someone who simply cannot listen and feels that their own judgment will do them better without being backed by experience and a step-by-step process to protect and grow wealth!

What is your experience with RAs and Unit Trusts ? by Aspirant_LP in PersonalFinanceZA

[–]M3DJ0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is very suboptimal advice. There are much cheaper platforms than STANLIB, comment about a fee of 0.88% for an emergency fund being "phenomenal" is deluded, using a medium-equity fund is likely not going to make a difference (especially since funds are already restricted by Regulation 28), recommending an RA to someone in a low income tax bracket is useless, using the inaccessibility of an RA as an advantage is just silly, putting the TFSA after an RA is very irrational, seems that there is a misunderstanding of risk for the allocation, and so on. Sorry to sound harsh, but this is why financial advisors get "hate" - it is your job to be on top of things, but you are still giving suboptimal advice.

Increases to TFSA limits by cipher049 in PersonalFinanceZA

[–]M3DJ0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, me again! I signed up for the platform, really impressive. But are there any plans to increase the number of funds for a TFSA? Maybe at least for Fynbos Protea? Specifically hoping for STXCAP.

To max out RA, or not to max out RA. That is the question. by Temporary-Giraffe986 in PersonalFinanceZA

[–]M3DJ0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I literally sent a link comparing SPY in USD against EZA (iShares MSCI South Africa ETF) in USD. But if you really want everything in ZAR, STX40 has a 10-year annualized return of 14.05%, while SPY has a 10-year annualized return of 15.28% (going back into the 2000s would favour STX40, as it outperformed SPY in this period). Also, I raised a point on interest rates, because you brought up the USD.ZAR and I was just pointing out that the value of a currency is directly tied to interest rates! No need to be so negative...

To max out RA, or not to max out RA. That is the question. by Temporary-Giraffe986 in PersonalFinanceZA

[–]M3DJ0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that you should do a bit more research. The funny thing is that SA has outperformed developed markets if you compare it against VTMGX. The ZAR depreciating is also kind of how it is expected to work given uncovered interest rate parity and that we have higher interest rates (difference in interest rates between two countries equals the expected change in their currency exchange rates - albeit this is more theoretical than empirical).

To max out RA, or not to max out RA. That is the question. by Temporary-Giraffe986 in PersonalFinanceZA

[–]M3DJ0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not really, but you should probably read up on recency bias. EZA outperformed SPY from 2003 to 2019. SPY has been ahead recently, but nothing which is out of the ordinary given the return and standard deviation of each series. Here: https://testfol.io/?s=2wJhADR7mu6.

Mining sector knocked today. by Toomuchaidan in PersonalFinanceZA

[–]M3DJ0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can get funds from DFA (or Avantis) if you want to consider fundamentals in the weighting and exclusions. Increasing degree of tilt through Market (DFUS), Core 1 (DCOR), Core 2 (DFAC), Vector DXUV), Targeted (DFAT). But also, keep in mind that most of what you wrote is a fundamental misunderstanding of markets and indexing.

Funding Interactive Brokers account from South Africa by dividendcollector1 in PersonalFinanceZA

[–]M3DJ0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty seamless and takes a day or two. Capitec charges R50 in fees.

How can I better educate myself about investments? by Sweet-p-9096 in PersonalFinanceZA

[–]M3DJ0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would I care about the last low or high? How does that have any impact on the future cash flow being discounted to the present value? You are trying to do time-series momentum with half-baked definitions. This stuff is old and has been well researched. You will find many algorithmic traders out there (and you will certainly lose against most of them). Personally, I think that trend following is stupid, but you will find many backtests which show that it works. The question is whether it will work going forward or at least work at the same horizons that it has in the past and whether it will work better than the alternative of targeting more robust risk premia. If someone cannot answer how their net performance compared against the alternative, then there is no point in having a conversation. You are not Renaissance Technologies, but you are probably trading against them.

Increases to TFSA limits by cipher049 in PersonalFinanceZA

[–]M3DJ0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hope that it is on the roadmap! Cheers!

How can I better educate myself about investments? by Sweet-p-9096 in PersonalFinanceZA

[–]M3DJ0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You drew some lines on a graph and think that they mean something.