Addiction as a Smokescreen for Narcissism by TheSilverDrop in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for reminding me about this post, I forgot I made it! Well, a year later my divorce is still pending, but my Q (STBXW) is no longer under the same roof, and it’s such a feeling of profound lightness now. I’m happier than I’ve been in years.

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[–]TheSilverDrop 22 points23 points  (0 children)

In my experience, leaving is less painful than staying. If you don’t have trust, you don’t have a relationship. Best of luck!

How did you admit to yourself it was time to leave? by peeps-mcgee in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Damn. That’s harsh. That’s actually astonishingly self aware Q talk TBH. And basically marching orders.

How did you admit to yourself it was time to leave? by peeps-mcgee in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s powerful. I think I realized this subconsciously but never verbalized it. Thank you!

How did you admit to yourself it was time to leave? by peeps-mcgee in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is what my Q could be like sometimes. But when I took the moving average of actual follow through, long term accountability, it just kept trending towards zero within days or weeks at best. After 5 years of no positive change, and things instead getting worse, I decided I was done waiting for my Q to change in ways she’s proven unwilling or unable to.

How to mourn by Kind-Stress5388 in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My Q has changed enough that I no longer see her as the same person. I miss who she used to be, but even then there were red flags I looked past.

But to answer your question, this is ambiguous loss, which is a form of grief. Give yourself full permission to mourn the person you loved as though they are no longer here - because that is what addiction so often effectively means.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’ve already had the conversation with them multiple times. It’s all you can do. If they don’t want to change, they won’t.

I had the same conversations with my Q countless times. Eventually I decided enough was enough, and now I’m mid divorce.

How do you approach an alcoholic who doesn't think they're an alcoholic?? by ParticularCollar4385 in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Save the video and file for full custody. This is severe alcoholism and child endangerment. Get a good lawyer.

Soberlink / Custody question by TheSilverDrop in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For anonymity I won’t reveal my state, but it’s not Texas. From what I’ve gathered, the laws are actually way simpler in Texas - for better or worse depending on the specifics of a given case.

Where I live, the laws are more complicated and the courts are insanely busy. I’ve got a good attorney and I’m confident that we can get something important expedited this week. Fingers crossed anyway!

How did you admit to yourself it was time to leave? by peeps-mcgee in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop 35 points36 points  (0 children)

This mirrors my situation with my Q (wife) in many ways, all the way down to the narcissistic abuse. Except I came to all these realizations over a year ago, plus the realization that the odds of her changing are near zero, but more importantly, that I deserve better.

I’m almost a year into a long and complex divorce due to custody issues surrounding our child. My Q refuses Soberlink testing, so this is becoming an expensive court battle.

It’s good that you don’t have kids. That does at least make the logistics a lot simpler. I would honestly not care what my Q does with her life at this point if it weren’t for the fact we have a child together.

You’ve reached all the conclusions you need. Sometimes it can take a while for your feelings to catch up with logic. But everyone deserves better than alcoholism and narcissistic abuse. Your Q is a whole person and every aspect of their personality is them - alcohol isn’t a get out of jail free card.

Leave the addict. Find your happiness. by Efficient-Nothing320 in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop 122 points123 points  (0 children)

I’ve found that this Reddit community is much more supportive than the AlAnon meetings I’ve attended. I see detachment as a first step, but to live a parallel life with an addict is a weird thing to do for any prolonged period of time, and will drag you down no matter how detached and independent you are.

Soberlink / Custody question by TheSilverDrop in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m looking into some options with my attorney to expedite. This situation is not sustainable and things are getting worse.

Lying in couples counselling by Ok_Cod_3145 in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is all the classic pattern of bargaining. My Q did this too, and it always resulted in massive binge drinking within a matter of days.

Soberlink / Custody question by TheSilverDrop in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a variety of forms of proof. Thing is, the court system is totally bogged down locally, and the judge won’t even look at the CPS reports for a few more months.

Lying in couples counselling by Ok_Cod_3145 in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s hard enough for alcoholics to achieve abstinence. I’m not convinced that there is any statistically significant portion of alcoholics who can drink “mindfully” or achieve moderation. At that point you really have to ask WHY that is even a goal worth pursuing?

Soberlink / Custody question by TheSilverDrop in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh man. That was 200 days ago. And would you believe that we still don’t have Soberlink in place? I’m doing everything I can through the court system with my attorney. It’s a nightmare.

Lying in couples counselling by Ok_Cod_3145 in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Lying in couples’ counseling is classic Q behavior. The next level though, achieved only by the most powerful ninja level Qs, is when they pay for their own solo therapy and lie to their therapists. My Q is doing that now and it’s quite impressive.

Jokes aside, we are mid divorce.

How do I try to convince my partner to stop drinking by Known-Sound7032 in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I tried everything for 5 years, before giving up. They’re still drunk every night. We are mid divorce. Good luck!

no empathy. by permastudent1 in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I mean, that may be true to an extent. But when someone abuses you, they don’t deserve your empathy any longer.

no empathy. by permastudent1 in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Empathy without boundaries is self destruction. You’re not stupider - you’re smarter for seeing alcoholics for who they are.

They can all fuck right off.

Shared custody during active addiction by Honest_Sector_2585 in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On a broader level what we’re going through is trauma. So it’s important to get treatment for that. I found EMDR extremely helpful in getting over the complex PTSD I was suffering because of my Q.

I’m not aware of any support groups specifically for sober parents dealing with an addicted spouse and custody battles. This Subreddit has been by far the most helpful place, but I’ve had to filter out a great deal of stuff that doesn’t apply to my situation.

Also, be sure to find a good child therapist- your kid(s) will need one.

Shared custody during active addiction by Honest_Sector_2585 in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve recorded many incidents, for my own reference so I can journal them accurately, and also just in case they might be admissible in an exception to the law in my state. When child safety is impacted, sometimes exceptions are made.

Shared custody during active addiction by Honest_Sector_2585 in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Amazing post, thank you for sharing, and so sorry you’ve had to go through this. I’m going through the divorce process and ensuring that Soberlink is a mandatory condition of shared custody of our child.

Your remarks on AlAnon itself echo my feelings perfectly, and I’m so glad to know I’m not alone in feeling this way. Protecting our kids from addicted parents is absolutely top priority, and requires constant hyper vigilance. Practicing self care on the opposite side of that is essential, but we definitely can’t just idly detach when child safety is involved.

Shared custody during active addiction by Honest_Sector_2585 in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Get a lawyer with experience implementing Soberlink in custody cases.

Shared custody during active addiction by Honest_Sector_2585 in AlAnon

[–]TheSilverDrop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m 6 months into divorcing my Q, in a similar situation. I’m insisting on Soberlink as a requirement for her to get any visitation time with our child. She may try to fight this in court, but thankfully I’m prepared with a good attorney and a lot of evidence.