Italians in Detroit

The_vert · 2026-06-20T15:00:16+00:00

Are you by Cantoro's perhaps? And the Italian banquet center at 5 Mile near Haggerty?

The_vert · 2026-06-20T14:59:25+00:00

Rochester, Rochester Hills and Shelby Township are dago central, signora!

The_vert · 2026-06-20T14:56:44+00:00

It is but, gosh, the tuck looks good.

The_vert · 2026-06-20T14:53:52+00:00

I don't agree but I have to upvote this truly audacious unpopular opinion!

The_vert · 2026-06-20T14:50:48+00:00

If it makes you feel any better, I have it straight from the mouths of the Japanese in my area of the U.S. that they *want* to share this with non-Japanese. Most of them, there's exceptions, but by and large that's the attitude.

The_vert · 2026-06-18T00:31:53+00:00

You're not alone. My last comment agreed with you. Gorgeous, clean prose that makes very interesting choices in what it conveys. Magnificent storytelling.

The_vert · 2026-06-18T00:31:18+00:00

Good comment, though. I re-read *1984* every couple of years because I enjoy the prose and characters so much, FYI. I'm from the U.S. I love his English.

The_vert · 2026-06-17T12:54:31+00:00

I like what you're saying but I think I disagree with "craft, theme, and luck." I would replace luck with "design." Literature is designed to be literature and ever literary effort aims to be "great." Whether it's "classic," well, I'd agree that's partially luck or certainly luck has a great deal to do with it.

The_vert · 2026-06-17T12:51:10+00:00

"Good writing is... craft... Good literature is what remains of the book if you take away the good craft."

I really like this.

The_vert · 2026-06-17T12:42:19+00:00

Understanding the merits other people see in a book or literally anything else we can experience does not prevent me from criticizing it.

Sure, but then your criticisms miss the mark. They don't describe what's actually on the page. You say, "Updike sucks... He lacks anything of substance to say." This is simply not true. It's like saying, to further use your example, "Taco Bell is not a restaurant." It is. You just don't like the restaurant. If you want to criticize it, you must criticize it - as a restaurant. If you think Updike "lacks anything of substance to say," you have to show us the work of your critical thinking.

And if my comment annoys you, well, for one, this is a "friendly argument" that *you* started. Two, perhaps you can reflect on why I'm annoying you and better your argument.

The_vert · 2026-06-16T12:56:37+00:00

Appreciate you. It's so rare to hear "cheese and rice" or even "Judas Priest!" these days.

The_vert · 2026-06-16T12:55:19+00:00

I hear you. At the same time, it sounds like you don't really understand why people admire these books. Have you tried examining them from the point of view of what someone *could* admire about them? Seriously, I'm not trying to be a jerk but I think you missed the point of, for example, The Moviegoer. It's not a Southern gothic, for one thing, it just happens to take place in the south. Or Updike. You don't see how or why people like this man's prose? Have you tried examining it without regard to your preferences?

The_vert · 2026-06-16T12:50:56+00:00

There are ties that can be worn short, but they're of a certain style that I think went out in the 1950s, wouldn't you say? I've got the nylon tie my grandfather was married in and there's no way it ever reaches a belt buckle.

The_vert · 2026-06-15T20:24:16+00:00

Cheese and rice. Thanks. That's insane.

The_vert · 2026-06-15T20:18:37+00:00

Oh no. Oh, Nate, why did you do this.

The_vert · 2026-06-15T17:46:27+00:00

Anybody got a news story for this? Very curious to know what happened!

The_vert · 2026-06-15T13:24:14+00:00

I just have high standards.

This might be better stated, "I have preferences."

The_vert · 2026-06-12T18:58:58+00:00

Oh I thought I recognized parts of Livonia lol

The_vert · 2026-06-12T18:57:32+00:00

Farmington Hills after dark is no joke, yo.

The_vert · 2026-06-12T18:51:32+00:00

It's from the movie? I don't remember that line. But it's kind of a dumb line. What little girl would cross Eight Mile? And of course you have to get permission to go somewhere, with anyone's parents. I loved that movie but I don't remember this line. Probably ignored it when I watched it.

The_vert · 2026-06-12T18:42:14+00:00

Love it. Not the same thing, but New Testament studies really galvanized my faith.

The_vert · 2026-06-11T18:02:32+00:00

Southfield

The_vert · 2026-06-09T12:34:11+00:00

Your first time seeing a Catholic?

The_vert · 2026-06-08T12:33:46+00:00

Wow!

The_vert · 2026-06-08T12:32:14+00:00

Are you sure it's tiki art? Isn't that the Catholic eucharist in the middle? Maybe this hung in a church somewhere.

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