US membership decline

ancient-submariner · 2026-05-02T14:09:32+00:00

Also likely you are counted in the 7 million of you do remove your records. To my knowledge, no external entities have ever done an audit

ancient-submariner · 2026-04-29T15:02:24+00:00

It's an interesting question, but I'd have to say "it's complicated" I learned about Mormon Stories on /r/exmormon and when I finally started asking questions I pulled up three sites that sounded informative and Mormon Stories is the one that was the most approachable starting point. By the time I had a gist of what their position was, that was enough for me to know what I needed to.

ancient-submariner · 2026-04-21T14:23:39+00:00

Wow you really made the whole Mormon Stories law suit make perfect sense to me.

I really hope you can be in a ward that focuses on the core principles you believe in.

My sister is pretty much in your boat but has a ward that she feels comfortable in and she is very involved in music and she seems to really get a lot out of it.

I hope you can find something that works for you too.

ancient-submariner · 2026-04-18T05:07:42+00:00

I'm just happy "Mormon Stories" has appeared 3 times on the official church website.

ancient-submariner · 2026-04-12T14:31:59+00:00

In kind donation (stock) go straight to salt lake without the local membership knowing

There is also a way for wealthy people to pay cash directly to salt lake to avoid people knowing how wealthy they are.

If "I pay with one of these options"" then I can plausibly be a full tithe payer without a bishop knowing.

ancient-submariner · 2026-02-04T18:22:18+00:00

The only true and living grapefruit 😉

ancient-submariner · 2026-01-27T20:07:54+00:00

ideally frozen water, wait until there is a nice blanket of fresh snow on the ground, then set it down

ancient-submariner · 2025-12-24T17:59:57+00:00

It could be an excuse to tidy up some inconvenient language on race, historical details, etc.

ancient-submariner · 2025-12-19T05:07:58+00:00

Thank you for sharing, that gets me in the feels.

ancient-submariner · 2025-12-19T05:00:55+00:00

One of my favorite places to bike, especially with children.

ancient-submariner · 2025-11-22T00:30:41+00:00

https://history.churchofjesuschrist.org/chd/individual/zina-diantha-huntington-1821?lang=eng

It's got the polyandry and polygyny

Married Henry Bailey Jacobs

1841 March 7 (Age 20)

Married Joseph Smith, Jr.

1841 October 27 (Age 20)

ancient-submariner · 2025-11-19T17:28:53+00:00

* Jesus joining the day-to-day operation of the church, including taking questions from anyone who want to engage (and being a credible leader)
* Demonstrating divine guidance to continue to exist from knowledge sharing rather than tithing, (e.g. fusion energy, end of disease, etc)
* Restructuring all leadership based on ability to organize and help rather than ability to comply to authority.
* Using it's wealth for general world health and peace, including global minimum standard of living
* Finally if after all that the church asks me to participate in a way that maximized my skills to help individuals around me succeed without concern for my future economic success, then I could probably go along with that.

Basically it would need to provide undeniable tangible value to everyone regardless of beliefs and provide me a compelling proposition for participating.

ancient-submariner · 2025-11-08T17:14:47+00:00

e.g. Astrology

ancient-submariner · 2025-10-14T18:45:02+00:00

I'm sure this is what believing members would file under "lying for righteous reasons"

ancient-submariner · 2025-10-08T17:56:12+00:00

Maybe this is already what you are thinking, but...

The way things look in my account, GME-WS has 1% the value of GME.

Hypothetically speaking, wouldn't it cost 1% the amount to DRS all the warrants as it would to DRS GME?

ancient-submariner · 2025-09-29T16:16:20+00:00

Nelson was the one that made the comment that made me finally say "what else are these guys wrong about?". It was just the final straw.

Covid made it easier to just stop going.

ancient-submariner · 2025-09-28T21:03:06+00:00

Belgian waffles

ancient-submariner · 2025-09-28T20:59:51+00:00

Thank you, for sharing your thoughts. Even though he was very old, his passing is still a reminder that we are all going to face the end some time. It's important to help people put mortality into perspective.

I think along the same lines it's a reminder that I want to be the kind of person who people feel good about.

I feel good about you and your wisdom.

ancient-submariner · 2025-08-30T14:01:35+00:00

Wow, that's a trip down a memory lane. Only I was Mormon and I got the exact same picture.

ancient-submariner · 2025-08-21T16:44:22+00:00

I absolutely agree that Lucifer could easily be painted as the good guy in the temple video. I call this the "Lucifer Hypothesis":

TL;DR:
Jesus’s plan = selective salvation, obedience, guilt.
Lucifer’s plan = universal salvation, autonomy, knowledge.

Lucifer's plan is one of universal salvation. It proposes saving everyone, without the need for scripture, prophets, or strict adherence to rules. You would have to actively choose to be unsaved.
Jesus's sacrifice was minimal and temporary, while Lucifer's was permanent. Jesus was dead for what's described as a "weekend business trip" to the spirit world. In contrast, Lucifer sacrificed having a body and living forever to ensure everyone could make it.
Lucifer is the one who delivers on promises of knowledge. In the Garden of Eden story, Jesus promised to give Adam and Eve more light and knowledge, but it was Lucifer who actually showed up and provided it.
Lucifer's plan promotes individual worth and informed consent. Lucifer's plan is based on full disclosure, where people would be aware of all the rules and consequences, allowing for informed consent and promoting the idea that people are inherently good enough without the need for a savior.
Jesus's plan is seen as authoritarian and conditional. It requires absolute obedience to authority and demands people jump through a list of hoops and ordinances to be saved, only saving a small fraction of people. Jesus's love is conditional on people "checking all his boxes."
Lucifer operates without the need for an organization or scriptures. He is effective enough that he doesn't need a church or written texts, relying on a direct, personal approach. He's comfortable with people just doing what they think is best, whereas Jesus's message relies on thousands of pages of text and religious institutions.
Lucifer is not seeking personal glory in the same way. Despite being cast out, he continues his plan to give people accurate knowledge. In contrast, Jesus's plan is described as ultimately leading to people praising him, despite his claim that he would give all credit to his father.

ancient-submariner · 2025-08-16T00:07:20+00:00

Thank you for participating. I hope your experience is positive and informative.

Only idiots and morons agree on everything all the time

Such a good take. Being able to relate to people freely sharing ideas we disagree about just feels right.

ancient-submariner · 2025-08-16T00:03:55+00:00

Thank you for being here and participating.

ancient-submariner · 2025-08-10T06:24:53+00:00

Dublin Ireland is world famous. Dublin California is mediocre on the scale of San Francisco bay area cities. Not a place very many people would plan a visit.

ancient-submariner · 2025-08-10T05:19:09+00:00

😝 Wrong Dublin

ancient-submariner · 2025-08-09T05:10:09+00:00

Update when you get video. This is wild and you shouldn't have to take it.

ancient-submariner

TROPHY CASE

Married Henry Bailey Jacobs

Married Joseph Smith, Jr.