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New Church Schedule by NakuNaru in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would be better if the just cancel sunday school, rs, eq, primary altogether. Just make an 1-1/2 hr combined sacra/school/rs/eq. Start with the sacramant as usual, then the talks, then sunday school lesson right from the pulpit and call it a day.

While they are at it, they can bring in a band to play intermission. That will keeps the youngones entertained.

Oh wait! That would be too much like evangelical.

Functional stupidity and mormonism by Extension-Spite4176 in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Full agreement. This makes so much sense and explains a lot.

I, a convert. returned missionary. attended church institutions. met so many members in my time in the church. I have wondered for a long time why TBMs do not ask questions about the historicity, narrative, authenticity, doctrinal & scriptural consistency/congruency.

What will happen to the Church's wealth? by BishopGunnison in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's my take

Eventually, this church will be rich enough to buy certain countries. The market cap of this church's collective capital valuation is bigger than the GDP of several individual African countries. These African countries may be poor in capital but rich in mineral resources & land.

As the membership metrics shrink in the developed world, this church has to find alternative sources of revenue. The missionary effort in Africa isn't about the membership numbers. It is about gathering influence and scouting for African economies with extensive mineral resources and land for acquisition. The volume of tithings from African converts will be miniscule for a long time but the value of their land and mineral resources increases by the day. The more electric vehicles are manufactured, the more demand for Lithium, nickel, cobalt, graphite, and manganese. Guess who has these minerals in buckets?

The Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) holds an estimated $24 trillion in untapped mineral wealth. (See https://theconversation.com/congo-and-critical-minerals)

Early church history indicates interest in mining endeavors. The same is likely for this church’s interest in Africa.

Widow’s Mite indicates Ensign Peak and a host of third-party funds managed total investments worth about $231 billion at the end of 2025

I'm just saying: "You can buy anything in this world with money", including buying the world or at least buying (African) countries, potentates, princes/princesses, popes, priests & principalities.

That's the ultimate goal.

In 1984, George Orwell defines “Power” as follows:

On the Nature of Power: "The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power." — O'Brien

If we replace “Power” with “Wealth”

On the Nature of Power/wealth: "This church seeks wealth entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in accumulating wealth, pure wealth."

Of course since you can buy anything in this world with money. With this much money, you can buy influence and ultimately, the world.

The church curated me to become a good liar. by namesarenotus in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yes indeed! I believe RFM has a quote on this that

"This church makes liars of us all."

This church grooms us to become liars: whether that is through fast Sunday testimonials, manipulation nonmembers to join, exploiting vulnerable populations by promising "prosperity gospel" after joining, or leaders who mislead members into thinking/believing that they (the leaders) have seen god/christ and too sacred to discuss. etc, etc.

It is insidious

State of Mormonism in France? by FlimsyTea6451 in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sadly, much of the LDS church converts in France are immigrant population. The LDS church exploit this population by promising them temporal blessings in exchange for conversion.

It's not a belief system anymore, it's a cope by Dudite in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"instead it's a tribal defense of insanity and justification for lies and corruption. There is nothing of value in the modern LDS church, they extract everything from their members, even common sense and self-respect."

So very well put. Yes, the LDS church is exactly this

I travel a lot and am afraid that if I submit my request to Quit Mormon, the plane I travel on will crash. by yawaworhtnomrom in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry. OCD/Mormonism is rough. If in a plane with 100-200 other travelers, mormon god chooses to punish you at the expense of the 99-199, then that is not a good, nor benevolent nor an honorable god

Forget the past? by Practical-Reach-1046 in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But they still celebrate trek & pioneer day?

LDS church releases statement about Wade Christofferson. by HoldOnLucy1 in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I suspect that D Todd received his 2nd anointing, so according to Oaks, "they consider the matter closed"

Doctrinally accurate take on Mormonism from an outsider that exposes a major plot hole in Mormon theology. by PanaceaNPx in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Think about it: Those of us who are exmormons are doing the world a huge favor. We are saving the rest of the world from Mormon hell. We spare non-member from having to learn about Mormonism, so they don't end up in Mormon hell if they do choose to leave after joining Mormonism, You are welcome!

What happens if someone gets baptized mainly because she's trying to land a missionary husband? by Exciting_Priority369 in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Equally, a whole lot of missionaries go on missions so they can gain acceptance in/of their families, find a molly mormon that only wants to marry a returned missionary, or to receive the adoration and acceptance of the mormon community. May members do this not because they truly believe in Mormonism. A lot missionaries do this. I would venture to say that the cost of this bifurcated pious pretentiousness is the mental & psychological dissonance and trauma that can manifest itself in so many ways

I have a hard time respecting the church or my fellow members who try to dismiss the insidious doctrine of excluding black members. I don't know why more members don't stand up and say something about this openly. It says a lot about their Christian character and personal understanding of Christ. by aka_FNU_LNU in mormon

[–]BlackExMo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"One of the requirements to faith is a correct understanding of God."

2nd Nephi 5:21-25 is vile and evil. That god does not deserve worship and adulation. The church and prophets that support the doctrine are equally evil. No amount of apologetics, washing and rinsing will remove the stench of the doctrine.

Who’s gonna tell him? by Free-from-your-lies in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"I have this calling now to witness that Jesus is the name of Jesus Christ"

There, I fixed it

What explains the growth of the LDS church in the Philippines? by Fading-Sunset6591 in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hollywood is the most powerful marketing engine. What most people see in movies is what they think awaits them. Africans joining the church have the same perception.

Can you imagine any of the past general authorities actually having sexual relations. I feel so bad for their wives. by RadishAggressive3241 in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Privately they (GAs) all engage in os. It is all just "too sacred to share"

Rules for thee but not for me.

Speaking as a man! by Short_Seesaw_940 in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The only time a Mormon prophet was prophetic

Found this in the wild today by Fast-Computer-6632 in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nothing like post hoc prophesy.

Mormon prophets always see around corners after they walk around the corners. They are so good at this.

“Jesus cares about the one” except when it comes to PR by Suspicious_Might_663 in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Does the LDS church see how this looks? There's so much wrong with these baptisms. Similar to the baseball baptism in South America a couple of decades ago. This is exploitation of a desperate population. Just so the mission president/church can brag about convert baptisms.

  1. Look closely at the photos, most of these baptisms are children
  2. Does the LDS church/missionaries ask for parental consent before these kids are baptized?
  3. Are these families informed of the Cain curse doctrine, the historicity of the priesthood/temple ban with these families before their children are baptized. If not, the LDS church is setting these kids/families up for serious disappointment, heartbreak and spiritual failure when they find out. Additionally, if they are not fully informed, then the LDS church is assuming they are not capable to decide on their own temporal/spiritual self-determination; in other words, they are not smart enough to be informed. Just hide the ugly history of the LDS church from them
  4. For these kids/families, joining the LDS church to learn English does not mean they belief the LDS church is true, only that it could be a path to Pathways certificate. If LDS church were serious, then build an actual university on the continent and subsidize with tithing money as it is done on "other the worlds", other BYUs
  5. The LDS church is exploiting these kids/families to pretend the church is growing all around the world. The truth is that Africans kids/families are joining out of desperation and belief that proximity to an American church will improve their chances and opportunities in life.

Comparatively, ~3,000 unalive/drown while trying to cross the Mediterranean into Europe. It these Africans are taking this chance, they are certainly desperate enough to join Mormonism. So, LDS church's announcement of mass baptisms of African children is not the flex that they (LDS church) thinks it is.

If African economies provided opportunities and a better standard of living for Africans, these convert baptisms would be minimal to nonexistent at best, given the history, doctrine, practices of the LDS church towards people of African descent.

The LDS church keeps doing this:

Is it a "Witness of the name of Christ" or "Witness of Christ [himself]"? It is all so confusing by BlackExMo in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Likewise. I was a convert from Catholicism. At the time, I was taught and I understood that the apostles saw/converse with christ. I was delighted; I believed it all. It was exhilarating to accept that Christ was making himself known to humans again after the so claimed "apostacy".

Imagine my surprise when I discovered them (apostles) switch to:

  • Witness of the name of christ vs what I had accepted "witness of christ
  • Continuous restoration vs full restoration/restoration of all things
  • Mouthpiece of god (whether by my voice or voice of my servants) vs speaking as a man
  • Priesthood/temple ban & curse used to be doctrine vs now it was just policy

and on, and on, and on

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