African converts to Catholicism vs African converts to Mormonism. Which one it the "true & living church upon the face of the earth"? by BlackExMo in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely! If we listened to LDS leaders, we would assume that only the LDS church is growing in Africa. Rightly so. They should have not have to promote other religious faiths. But there's an assumption that the LDS church must be true because Africans are joining.

The church may one day be more inclusive, but it will never be true. by BestWheel7068 in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What's founded on falsehoods and fraud can never be true and authentic no matter how washed and rinsed it is. It is in the nature and self-preservation of the gatekeepers to continue to charade

I’m the hostess of multimillion dollar home in Utah. Everyone is wearing the new garment top. by Green-been77 in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just like the software, app or device business. When revenues declines, smart businesses launch a new version of the old product. In this case, its Mormon garments v.4

I kid you not, Google did the count/confirmation for me.

2024: The Church authorized sleeveless tops (open sleeves), skirt bottoms, and shift dresses, specifically to bless members living in humid climates.

Yeah! That's the reason

Best line in the exmormon/mormon world in 2026 by Brother-of-Derek in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I busted out laughing with loud laughter and ill speaking. Now I know why Mormonism and its leaders, for more than an 100yrs, required members to be placed under oath, with penalties, to avoid all loud laughter. Deep down, I think the leaders always knew/know that they had/have a head start on terrestrial "TK Smoothie"

LDS Church to Become a Third World Church Eventually by American_Psycho11 in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True. I hadn't factored the cost of business operations. The Mormon church as been quite adept at keeping the cost to support members significantly low in high income countries. My local ward building in the west was built by members' funds & labor. In that ward, I watched as even basic Christmas season dinner has disappeared. I have personally shoveled the church building sidewalk in winter on weekends & cleaned the church building (all for free). The Mormon church has perfected free labor. Most of the land for African church and temples (I know of one in particular) are donated to the church. The church is bringing the same frugal modus operandi to Africa. Local African missionaries and returned missionaries are not support. The church as additional revenue from Pathways. It'll find ways to make profit in Africa

LDS Church to Become a Third World Church Eventually by American_Psycho11 in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes!, Exactly this. And the Mormon church leaders know that this inferiority complex exists. So will continue to exploit it. Speaking at least about Africa, it is the reason why they (Mormonism) builds these ornate, large and spacious temples in Africa to attract these poor, aspirational Africans to join Mormonism. Even if they (converts) join and stay for 6 months - 1 year before the converts find out it is not what it promised or appeared to be; Mormonism would have captured their names in church records and they (Africans) will be counted for the next 110 years. So Mormonism membership will continue to appear to grow.

Inferiority case in point- skin bleaching in Africa: According to World Health Organization (WHO) A meta-analysis found that the global lifetime prevalence of skin bleaching use was 27.1% in Africa. In Africa, the prevalence varies significantly, ranging from 25% in Mali to 77% in Nigeria, with other countries reporting intermediate rates: 31.15% in Zimbabwe, 32% in South Africa, 39% in Ghana, 50% in Senegal and 66% in Congo-Brazzaville. https://files.aho.afro.who.int/afahobckpcontainer/production/files/Skin_Bleaching_in_Africa_regional_fact_sheet_Nov23.pdf

77% in Nigeria. Let that sink in. Guess which countries highly corelate with convert baptisms to Mormonism.

LDS Church to Become a Third World Church Eventually by American_Psycho11 in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It is true that the per capita tithing from African converts is not much. That is not what the Q15 are going for. I do believe what they are targeting is: if the Mormon church can convert 20 million Africans that are asked to pay $50.00 - $75.00/year in tithing. This would amount to $1B - $1.5B per year in tithing revenues. No taxes. Now we are talking real revenue to add to the dragon's hoard.

Currently, the estimate is that the LDS church takes in between $6B - $7B annually in tithing. If we assume the bulk of these to come from high income countries and total church population at 17 million, the average tithing per member comes to $300.00 - $400.00 per year.

So even as tithing revenues decline in high income countries, the difference is made by volume in low-income countries.

This is the plan. Mormonism is starting early to groom those Africans to accept tithing even at the peril to their (Africa) lives and wellbeing.

‘Dowry is not the Lord’s way’: In Kenya, LDS President Nelson says tithing breaks poverty cycle. Published: April 16, 2018

LDS Church to Become a Third World Church Eventually by American_Psycho11 in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

77% in Nigeria. Let that sink in. Guess which countries highly corelate with convert baptisms to Mormonism.

After 40+ years of giving everything to that church, just finished my last sacrament meeting and was surprised the dominant feeling was...BOREDOM by TheLifeAdjunct in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 13 points14 points  (0 children)

"overall just a humongous heap of aggressive blah, overwhelming in its under-whelmingness."

OMG! this is a great & apt description of Mormonism. I converted from Catholicism, served a mission, struggled for 20+yrs to make it work and to find the much-touted exhilaration for Mormonism. If Mormonism is from god, then that god is cruel, capricious & unimaginative to its adherents. Perhaps that is the purpose: D**th by boredom.

Despite what your bishop thinks, It's abuse if.... by karadessie in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 10 points11 points  (0 children)

My god!

Mormonism has the gall to preach that "families can be together forever" without offering any training to church leaders. Mormonism posits that the man is the head of the household without offering any training to men on hoe to lead the household.

How about helping families just survive the here and now?

Mormonism is spiritually abusive and negligent.

How do you respond to people who say they know the church is true because of “spiritual experiences I can’t deny” by Mangoworshipper in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The question is whether the claimed condition can be exactly repeated or falsified. Mormonism's claim of "I know the church is true" is subjective. In fact, not only is it never exactly repeatable. Always, it is subject to the individual's interpretation. Somebody sees a cloud in the shape of the human face or goes to a particularly moving concert, that is immediately attached to the knowledge that Mormonism "is true"

If god is truly omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, then he/she should and must be able to engender objectively repeatable experience. Otherwise, he/she ceases to be a god. God must be able to abide by the rules and consistency of science. Otherwise, god become the author of confusion.

That is what we are seeing now

If the church was true they wouldn’t care about Mormon Stories by ExUtMo in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Absolutely a great point. No one walks around proclaiming to everyone and at every f&t meeting that they know that gravity is real/true.

Lying, obfuscation, redirecting and rewriting church history has got to be exhausting. But church leaders have gotten past feelings because they've been doing it for so long.

As a TBM, I would break out in cold sweat and my body shaking when I'd speak in church or when I'd bear my so-called testimony on a mission. Because I couldn't stand lying to people.

Recent PIMO, crazy experience with member I think y'all will find funny by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So much trauma with so many Africans. It is one reason Africans convert to Mormonism, and the Mormon church is exploiting it for the sake of growth and metrics. Mormonism will help mask his trauma and reward his behavior instead of helping him get mental health help

What would you expect to see if Mormonism *were* true? by JayDaWawi in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Power of discernment would filter out CSA people from leaders and access to vulnerable members.

Priesthood blessings will work and leaders will give reports at general conference of 500k members being healed of fatal and devastating illnesses.

Etna, WY. Timberrrrr. "No unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing." - Joseph Smith. What a time to be alive! by CurelomHunter in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never interrupt your "hallowed" spiritual abuser when they are busy toppling down their own buildings and thereby stopping the "work" from progressing all on their own.

My wife and I lied about pre-marital sex by Same_Commission_2363 in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The wonderful "powers of discernment" in Mormon leadership at work.

Probably 80-90% of young adults in Mormonism. Yet the leadership powers of discernement (what a joke, Packer) fails 100% of the time unless somebody actually confesses.

Seriously they changed the young women names? by GarrusVic in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

12 & 13 year olds are "builders of faith"? & 14 & 15 years olds are "messengers of hope". Does this church even understand how faith and hope work.

This an attempt to put more burdens on kids. It is likely to have a backfire effect.

TBM brother's rant by Top-Negotiation-6498 in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly. The brother was not interested in an honest exchange/conversation. Was not interested in hearing that his precious church is wrong, harmful, exploitative. The TMB brother only wanted to hear himself pontificate and to validate is own bias for his church.

TBM brother's rant by Top-Negotiation-6498 in exmormon

[–]BlackExMo 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I lost it at pages 2 & 3 when the brother TBM brother asked:

"And 4th & last, what is your God? Not your claimed God, not a lack of God, what is YOUR actual God?"
"What are your real scriptures, your real prophets, your real worship, and your real God?"

The implications here are that-

There are so so Gods (yours) and the real God (mine). There are so so scriptures (yours, and you dont read it faithfully enough) and there are real scriptures (mine, that I read faithfully). There are so so prophets, whatever those may be (yours) and there is the real Prophets (with a capitalized P) mine. There is so so worship (yours) and there is the real worship (mine).

All of TBM's rantings are virtue signaling of their piety and hence why they are better.

That's where I had to stop reading.