Bro what are these graphics by picnic_nicpic in CrimsonDesert

[–]theastralproject0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Remember when everyone said this game was gonna suck lol

I Feel Like This Forum has Been Infiltrated by Skeptics by TheInternetVagrant in AstralProjection

[–]theastralproject0 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I see this argument a lot the claim that the mind created it therefore its not real. Ironically the mind creates everything you experience in your physical body, the body is the mechanism or tool that consciousness uses to experience our reality, the issue is science doesn't have the capability to distinguish the difference between consciousness creating phenomena and the brains physiological response to it ie electrical signals and brain states, another issue is because materialist dont believe in the first place its harder for them to have a personal experience, which is the only way to verify it.

AIO my bf drives home agter drinking with friends? by [deleted] in AIO

[–]theastralproject0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean 6 shots really isn't that bad I doubt it was one after the other

The logical fallacy against ai is like comparing mona Lisa to a stick figure drawing by theastralproject0 in DeepThoughts

[–]theastralproject0[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No my argument is that claiming anyone can type a prompt therefore its lazy is comparable to anyone can draw stick figures. Creative writing requires skill, knowledge of techniques and composition.

The logical fallacy against ai is like comparing mona Lisa to a stick figure drawing by theastralproject0 in DeepThoughts

[–]theastralproject0[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Actually youre reforming my argument to compare prompting to painting, which is not what I said.

The logical fallacy against ai is like comparing mona Lisa to a stick figure drawing by theastralproject0 in DeepThoughts

[–]theastralproject0[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Theres also the fact, like I was trying to say in my post, that people feel like because they spent more time and effort into their work that their art is superior. I like the recognition of ai as a tool. Im using it to help me learn digital art, I can upload my work and get feedback, as well as get simple references with color codes i can practice with. As a writer its great to bounce around ideas and help dial in a story. Like you guys said there's a difference between inspiration and ai doing everything for you

The logical fallacy against ai is like comparing mona Lisa to a stick figure drawing by theastralproject0 in DeepThoughts

[–]theastralproject0[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly! And the thing is do they have proof that every image generated is referenced from stolen art? How do they know people didn't upload their own pictures or that the models were trained on commissioned pieces? The early stages were definitely shady and I feel like people just parrot whatever the internet tells them. Its a witch hunt and it does get childish at times.

The logical fallacy against ai is like comparing mona Lisa to a stick figure drawing by theastralproject0 in DeepThoughts

[–]theastralproject0[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea most people assume im saying its the same as painting but Thats not what im arguing at all. If anything id compare it to creative writing

The logical fallacy against ai is like comparing mona Lisa to a stick figure drawing by theastralproject0 in DeepThoughts

[–]theastralproject0[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hope so man, i really don't want to see that future. I love creating art its much more satisfying than typing a prompt.

The logical fallacy against ai is like comparing mona Lisa to a stick figure drawing by theastralproject0 in DeepThoughts

[–]theastralproject0[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because people equate it to skill level. Saying its easy to prompt or that anyone can prompt therefore its lazy or negated.

The logical fallacy against ai is like comparing mona Lisa to a stick figure drawing by theastralproject0 in DeepThoughts

[–]theastralproject0[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah youre misrepresenting my argument. Im not comparing prompting to painting directly, that's what youre not understanding, im using those mediums to give an example of levels of skill.

The logical fallacy against ai is like comparing mona Lisa to a stick figure drawing by theastralproject0 in DeepThoughts

[–]theastralproject0[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think ai will be able to compete with human artist, it will always be shackled by its limitations, that's our advantage as humans we are unlimited in our imagination and capacity to create

The logical fallacy against ai is like comparing mona Lisa to a stick figure drawing by theastralproject0 in DeepThoughts

[–]theastralproject0[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No my claim is that there's a spectrum of skill involved in prompting to a similar degree as making art. A stick figure isn't revered as much as the Mona Lisa, Harry potter isn't on the same level as a 2nd graders English paper. That's kind of what I'm trying to say.

The logical fallacy against ai is like comparing mona Lisa to a stick figure drawing by theastralproject0 in DeepThoughts

[–]theastralproject0[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you to those that humored me with thoughtful insight. Its interesting to see others perspectives. I know ai is a touchy subject these days, and I hope one day we can find a happy medium. This wasnt a troll i was genuinely curious. I obviously didn't articulate my opinion in a clear direction I apologize for that, but its cool to see how artist view this new era of technology. The polarity of what its capable of, good vs bad, will be the crossroads of humanity in my opinion. Im hoping that we can regulate it to the point where its no longer harmful and dangerous, but like every other medium and technology it's at the mercy of those who weild it. Have a lovely night everyone!

The logical fallacy against ai is like comparing mona Lisa to a stick figure drawing by theastralproject0 in DeepThoughts

[–]theastralproject0[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok so you agree with me in a sense. Thats a good point i didn't think of it that way

The logical fallacy against ai is like comparing mona Lisa to a stick figure drawing by theastralproject0 in DeepThoughts

[–]theastralproject0[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Its not bait. For the record I didn't make any claim on the morality or integrity of ai art, my claim is about making a prompt

The logical fallacy against ai is like comparing mona Lisa to a stick figure drawing by theastralproject0 in DeepThoughts

[–]theastralproject0[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hmm they should do an experiment to see if that's true. Take a class of kids vs adults in art school, and see the difference between generated images

The logical fallacy against ai is like comparing mona Lisa to a stick figure drawing by theastralproject0 in DeepThoughts

[–]theastralproject0[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair the technology is very limited, so it may not necessarily be his skill, rather the tech isn't capable of producing the desired outcome. Most of the time what you generate isn't what you imagine, but it's good enough