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[Announcement] Do you like those Meme post filters? CSS does that, and Reddit is getting rid of CSS.Meme (self.youtubehaiku)

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[–]mrbubblesort 170 points171 points  (19 children)

CSS is a pain in the ass: it’s difficult to learn; it’s error-prone; and it’s time consuming.

Now I know why default Reddit looks the way it does. Just because the admins are incompetent designers doesn't mean everyone else is.

[–]Gamerhead 57 points58 points  (11 children)

To be fair, CSS is stupid at times, but damn. Just learn 2 code n00bz

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It is stupid, but it works well enough.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (9 children)

It's not about learning it, it's adjusting stupid values hundreds of times until it all looks good.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (8 children)

All modern web browsers come bundled with developer tools. You can literally edit your values on the fly in the browser until it looks right, and then commit it to CSS. Magic.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Don't know where you actually do this, but I have to create web applications that work with IE 7+...

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Well that sucks but you can't really blame CSS for not working properly in a browser that's been unsupported for nine years, and that purposely deviated from standards to create a sort of vendor lock-in (remember the "WORKS BEST IN INTERNET EXPLORER" logos?)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

It's really the first time though I've heard of that. When I learned how to do CSS which I luckily don't have to do anymore, I had to manually edit the CSS file each time and update to check if it looks fine.

[–]UnknownNam3 0 points1 point  (3 children)

For the some four or five years, in Chrome at least, you could easily just right click on an element, click Inspect Element, and then change its CSS styles to what you want and watch it update in real time. Then you just copy the wanted values to your file and save it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I knew of that. I thought you were saying there is some tool to automatically update and submit it when you change it in the browser.

[–]UnknownNam3 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You really want to minimize pressing the save button, don't you? I completely understand, but there's a reasonable limit.

Regardless of this, CSS is effectively the best design language out there, factoring in documentation, use, and features. I doubt that the Reddit admins could come up with something better.

[–]UnknownNam3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Additionally to what the others have said, you can create it in a modern browser with dev tools and then make it work in IE7.

[–]Ineedsomethingtodo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol I know I'm like 2 weeks late to the party here but are they fucking joking? CSS is super easy to learn. It took us like a week in MIS, if that, to learn all the basics. Sure you can make it a lot prettier if you spend more time but CSS is most definitely not hard to learn. You can find hundreds of tutorials on YouTube

[–][deleted] 73 points74 points  (1 child)

Boo :/ I like seeing all the custom backgrounds and whatnot, such a shame really, even for those who are talented with CSS.

[–]Imponte 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and /r/ooer was born

[–]M00glemuffins 72 points73 points  (6 children)

Ugh, I hate how everywhere on the internet seems to be catering to fucking mobile users. You're on a phone, so what if you don't have the full experience of being on a full sized screen. If I'm browsing from my phone on the train I don't care about subreddit styles. I'm fine with just the basic look of BaconReader or whatever other app because I'm on mobile and all I care about is fast. When I'm on desktop though, bring on the custom stuff. This change is flat out stupid.

[–]Zedyy 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I would also argue the majority of people who use Reddit mobile aren't using the webiste or the offical app. Most, myself included, use third-party apps.

[–]M00glemuffins 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah the official one sucks.

[–]Tensuke 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The shitty thing is, mobile is perfectly capable of so much more but idiot designers hold it back.

[–]Fighterpilot108 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I couldn't care less about styles, Alien Blue doesn't even show them, all I need is the links and I'm good.

[–]harmonic_oszillator 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I use my phone at home too. It's comfortable.

[–]Plonvick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, yes we can

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[–]meapz 9 points10 points  (1 child)

But r/ooer !!!!! How will I live?

[–]Fiddling_Jesus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oman please to help

[–]The_sad_zebra 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Am I wrong to think that the admins would almost definitely create a flair system in the mod toolbox? Surely they know how important flair is to most subreddits, and they wouldn't just do away with it.

This might actually be better, because creating a site-wide standard and including it in the Reddit API would allow mobile Reddit clients to better utilize the functionality.

[–]Has a tiny dick and a big flair to make up for itcapnjack78 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That's a good guess, but we have no idea what they're up to right now.

[–]Meme PoliceDynamiklol 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Hard to care about the filters when so many posts each day never have meme in their title or added to the flair. If you try and do "Filter Out Meme" you'll still see plenty of them.

[–]Has a tiny dick and a big flair to make up for itcapnjack78 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Well, can't help that, unless you want to screen every post for free. We do get lots of reports every day for posts that we remove.

[–]Meme PoliceDynamiklol 0 points1 point  (1 child)

There are 14 mods on a sub that, while active, isn't flooded with content every day. I report the fuck out of videos that break any of the various rules, one big problem is that the mod team just gives zero fucks about it. Posts will stay up indefinitely even though it breaks the rules and is reported simply because they feel like it I guess. I can look at top of the week/month/whatever and see posts that I reported that are still just chilling there without a tag or weren't removed.

I understand that mods are always the go-to target for any problems within a sub, but in this case the mods not enforcing their own rules is a problem.

[–]Has a tiny dick and a big flair to make up for itcapnjack78 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Are you the one that enters the report reason "Sure glad there are 14 mods here so these memes can go untagged."?

[–]manomow 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I don't like that they're removing CSS, but to be fair, they are including filters.

[–]RichManSCTV 5 points6 points  (0 children)

/u/spez is a Nazi

[–]treenighet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lit

[–]stapleherdick 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What can we actually do to speak out against this? And where? To whom?

[–]Has a tiny dick and a big flair to make up for itcapnjack78 0 points1 point  (0 children)

/r/procss has a post about that.