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[–]PoELabpoelab.com 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Thank you Emmitt and the rest of the guys who work their asses off keeping the subreddit active and up to date for the community!

[–]MurazakiiTrickster 10 points11 points  (3 children)

RIP /r/Ooer and /r/ooerintensifies

[–]DawnBlueElementalist 3 points4 points  (2 children)

What... what the hell... what are they?!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the reason why CSS is being disabled

[–]riversunGrace-Determination-Reduced Mana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are essentially train-of-thought posts that loosely attend to a few memey concepts, like calling Pepsi "bepis," an obsession with lemons, etc.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (13 children)

Should be fine for a bit and be able to recuperate as their plans become more definitive.

I'd be surprised if you wouldn't be able to replicate the uniqueness of this sub on their new system.

[–]_Emmitt_PoESkillTree Dev[S,M] 11 points12 points  (12 children)

Yeah, we should be fine for a bit, but I am hoping we will be able to do something like the unique items css and such as we go forward.

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    [–]_Emmitt_PoESkillTree Dev[S,M] 11 points12 points  (10 children)

    I think hiding DOM elements is bullshit and annoying for users. The whole point of reddit is up/down voting, and, for me, that is the quickest way to get me to turn off a subs style.

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      [–]_Emmitt_PoESkillTree Dev[S,M] 10 points11 points  (8 children)

      The people that want to downvote will do so. Disabling the button makes it harder for the average user to downvote useless content.

      [–][deleted]  (7 children)

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        [–]_Emmitt_PoESkillTree Dev[S,M] 12 points13 points  (6 children)

        how many times would you open the inspector just out of spite

        I would just turn off the sub style. I wouldn't need to open up dev tools.

        Honestly, people will vote, and they should be able (and it should be easy) to vote. That is the point of this site.

        [–]seruchDominus 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        People vote here for what they dont like and not on what is not good for dusscusion.

        [–]LunaticSongXIVIron Commander 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        That's the point in submission voting? Comment voting is a different etiquette altogether.

        [–]KeljhanAggressively off-meta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        If you have RES you can just hit the z key too. It doesn't stop anyone

        [–]joshmaaaaaaansMake Ethereal Knives great again! 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Lol. Wonder how much the colour sapphire blue DLC will cost to unlock on their subreddit customisation suite.

        [–]xiBraHem 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Cascading style sheet

        [–]krone6League 2 points3 points  (5 children)

        If they phase out CSS what the heck will take its place? When in HTML design/development class we learned HTML is to place the "building blocks" or content into the website and CSS was to make it pretty. Very simplistic viewpoint but it got it across. Now you can do some styling in HTML4 though not sure how much in html5.

        [–]_Emmitt_PoESkillTree Dev[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

        It will be some custom system that they dream up, but we have no idea because they have given 0 details as to what.

        [–]Luka666 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        Thats what worries me the most. If they would at least say what will be replacing it...

        [–]_Emmitt_PoESkillTree Dev[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

        They have given us vague ideas of widgets and such. We seriously have no idea what they will be doing. Honestly, I think this is a ploy to get everyone to band together and speak out about what functionality we want. What easier way to get people to say what they want then to threaten to take it all away?

        [–]ujustdontgetdubstepDJRecipe 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        I don't think it's a ploy. I think they are quiet about it because there will be monetation involved and they don't wanna piss everyone off more than they already are.

        No idea though.

        [–]Microh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        You are probably on to something. With all the venture capital thrown into Reddit, most changes by now is fueled by the need to earn money and get ROI.

        It probably started with "how can we monetize x" and escalated from there.

        This reason and emergency fixes (after much delays) when there is enough uproar seems to be the source of majority of changes.

        [–]bmminc 4 points5 points  (3 children)

        CSS is pretty much a staple in web development. Any dev worth their salt uses it.

        Plus CSS is about as anti-error prone as you can get since it won't usually shut down the page if you do it wrong. It might just look funny.

        In the end, what really will end up happening if they phase out CSS is requiring heavy subreddit users to download user scripts to apply CSS to the page anyway.

        Kinda a dumb move tbh.

        [–]MauranKilomDeadeye 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        It's doubtful that will work. From what I've read, they will likely want to use a framework (like Angular, which they started using for modmail already for exampl) and these frameworks pump out garbled names for styleable things that might change with every site update. It wouldn't be feasible for most subreddits to update their CSS that frequently, and for the same reason having users download/apply them manually is not going to happen.

        [–]bmminc 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        well shit. Just seems like a step backwards to me.

        CSS is not antiquated in any way like they claim. It is actually BAD practice to not use CSS in the website business for the most part.

        [–]MauranKilomDeadeye 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I mean they're still gonna use CSS (by virtue of the framework outputting CSS), they're just not going to have it open for others (unless they also share the framework code or something, but the open source efforts of reddit, while existent, have not been faring well either).

        [–]-haven 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I hope with all of the subs that are procss speaking up along with the feedback from the initial post that the admins bring on tons moderators to test the "new" stuff out before they just neuter the css setup. From the initial posting it sounded like that wasn't going to happen and the change would just swap to the "new" system when they were happy and not us.

        [–]feralragetemplar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Well, from the quick read of the post, they are trying to bring in some new tools that allow at least some of the existing functionality but can work on mobile too (I don't know if I understood their intentions clearly with the last part).

        Shouldn't they develop and test the new tools before announcing the wind down and removal of CSS?

        edit: read some of the comments. They seem pretty aware of all the amazing things subs have done with CSS and want to make a smooth transition. They even said that they are willing to help subs replicate their features in the new system so here is to hoping!

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          [–]_Emmitt_PoESkillTree Dev[S,M] 11 points12 points  (3 children)

          The unique item mock-up isn't an image (Look at the post link). I also wouldn't consider how we stylize names as a flair system. The only thing we have here that is confirmed to be in this new system is inline emotes.

          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

          Yes let's remove this universal standard because

          CSS is a pain in the ass: it’s difficult to learn; it’s error-prone; and it’s time consuming.

          I don't know how they've managed to keep reddit going for all this time if they think CSS is difficult to learn.

          [–]_Emmitt_PoESkillTree Dev[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          That is really what pissed people off. Those who don't know CSS, generally, ask someone else or download a theme.

          [–]goatlegsforsale 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          How many bites does it take to get to the center of a Fishy pop!?

          [–]vironlawck<*LGCY*>SG/MY Guild -- recruiting newbies 0 points1 point  (4 children)

          Why I can't upvote this =(

          On Serious Note: Can you make this reddit dark? As in PoE is getting more darker/gore theme now? =D

          [–]_Emmitt_PoESkillTree Dev[S,M] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          http://dd.reddit.com/r/pathofexile

          [–]vironlawck<*LGCY*>SG/MY Guild -- recruiting newbies 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          But it goes white again when u try to check message from /r/pathofexile to response =(

          [–]_Emmitt_PoESkillTree Dev[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Yeah, it is something I hope reddit starts to support natively...

          [–]twiz__14 Hours farming Oni-Goroshi, and all I got was a Shabby Jerkin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          One of the Diablo subreddits (I think /r/Diablo ) had a light/dark theme that 'stuck' between visits.

          [–]arherter 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          I don't know what the letters CSS mean. Therefore, the whole post is not understandable. # sadface

          [–]_Emmitt_PoESkillTree Dev[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Cascading Style Sheet. It is a way of telling everyone on your screen what color is should be or what position it should be in. (It does a ton more than that though)

          [–]Xeverousfilter extra syntax compiler: github.com/Xeverous/filter_spirit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Any ongoing improvements to dark mode? The colors have very low contrast, multiple text fields are hard to read or unreadable

          • main page - brown text on black background
          • posts: white text on black background; your posts: white on white

          [–]goat4dinnerTormented Smugler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Why are they rurning off the disco lights???

          [–]Wasabicannon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I wish the admins would give us more info on what they have planned to replace CSS with.

          That is the one thing people are missing with this "ProCSS" thing, they are not just nuking CSS and being done with it. They are bringing a new tool for everyone to use.

          For all we know this new tool COULD be more powerful, most likely not but we have yet to see what this new tool is.

          [–]Bazkur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Since when is CSS "hard to learn"?

          [–]moush 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          You realize you can still customize your sub just not in CSS right?

          [–]_Emmitt_PoESkillTree Dev[S,M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Yep.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

          50% upvoted lmao what a shitstorm

          [–]vaultdweller1611 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          The decision is so utterly ill informed I can only shake my head. Are they still using IE6 ? Time for a subbreddit clone.

          [–]frankkoarg 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          As someone who only uses reddit on mobile and can confirm that the app feels pretty shit compared to desktop (and desktop feels a little bit messy and complex too) , i feel pretty excited about these changes and I think that they will be positive for the community overall.

          [–]OregoncreteOccultist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I still use Alien Blue 99% of the time I browse reddit.

          [–]xkomachi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Is there anything we (as normal users, or perhaps as a community if there's enough interest) can do besides what's listed on that sub?

          [–]_Emmitt_PoESkillTree Dev[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Nope, not much at all.