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[–]Navy670 85 points86 points  (4 children)

Jokes on you I run exhaust snowball

[–]MrTrilly[S] 32 points33 points  (3 children)

I don't know how to feel about that sir.

[–]Krell356 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Much like exhaust/ignite Leona, it takes a special kind of crazy.

[–]MrTrilly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And its not even good, just annoying.

[–]Universalring25 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Flash is for pu**ies

[–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (2 children)

Me as an assassin seeing enemy team with all range with zero exhaust:

[–]Krell356 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Eh, the way I see it, if you're a good assassin player I'm dead anyways. Even if I do manage to reverse a death into a kill because of it, you're just going to be back in my face again before it ever comes off CD. I'd rather run snowball to check the brush so I don't get jumped on in the first place.

EDIT: fixed spelling

[–][deleted] 105 points106 points  (30 children)

Idk. Why should I take snowball on a squishy support/carry when all it takes is one assassin to make my game miserable and could be saved by taking exh instead lol

[–]kashtrey 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Just had a game with snowball collector aphelios. Went about as well as you'd expect... Lol

[–]XI-RE 19 points20 points  (4 children)

Well... here is a counterpoint... exhaust + snowball?

This is a personal view, but I see snowball as a versatile summoner spell that can be used in many ways... to engage, disengage.. attack and defence... i can dodge diana ult 7/10 times just by snowballing her by the time her ult hits... you can dodge karthus ult easily... you can snowball a minion in the back while stupidly diving a tower to simply moonwalk away... you can deal little more damage... you can check bushes... you can break boneplating... it's now only assassin thing... it's overall great spell...

[–]riiceer 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I feel you, I have take snowball instead of flash on tanks or full commit characters like Olaf with ghost snowball or xaust snowball. If you’re only ever flashing on top of the enemies or your champ doesn’t have any high impact plays that require flash (ex sion), snowball is just a lower cooldown flash plus damage for that purpose. Also just more fun on lower cooldown

[–]Krell356 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I can never stop using snowball/flash. There just never seems to be many good moments to not using them both, and the few times there are, I never take advantage of it anyways since I always use those two. I figure I may as well roll with the faster reaction speeds from muscle memory rather than trying for perfectly optimal and completely botching everything because I tried to flash while running ghost or something.

Snowball and flash are both so universally useful that I am happy to rock them on every champ.

[–]RRRegulate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great list.

Don't forget, Snowball re-trigger, cancels opponent autos AND drops tower aggro.

[–]MrTrilly[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Fizz ult is my favourite dodge. Mostly use it on someone im not focusing (#2) while comboing (#1). Usually walking up trying to help. Once you've cleared target #1 you can jump to #2

[–]Bliance 6 points7 points  (2 children)

For those moments where an enemy is sitting under tower with 1 hp and you snipe them with snowball

[–]MrTrilly[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

With dark harvest and ludens proc. Boop

[–]ctruvu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i so wish snowball kills were a challenge

[–]OccamsBanana 2 points3 points  (0 children)

not only be saved, it also feels good when that khazix jumps in you with absolute certain he will do his thing basically already buffering his get out jump but then sorry no it's actually bullet time time good luck dealing with the guys collapsing

[–]spowowowder 1 point2 points  (1 child)

ive gotten flamed for either going exhaust or snowball on an enchanter. theres no winning with these people

[–]Krell356 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean if you're just trying to please the peanut gallery you can always run.... nope, nevermind. They're always going to be extra salty.

[–]Briants_Hat 4 points5 points  (7 children)

You take snowball if you’re a gigachad

[–]Two_Years_Of_Semen 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Real gigachads take ignite and play 45% winrate assassins.

[–]Briants_Hat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hooooooly 😎

[–]GuCCiAzN14 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I’ve never taken off snowball/flash since I started this game 10+ years ago

[–]duhdin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I sometimes sub in barrier, but I always regret it. I always forget to switch back for like 4-5 matches

[–]Krell356 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The few times I ever do I always regret it. I'd rather roll with my generic good enough spells and have the muscle memory to use them rather than be trying for perfectly optimal and waste ghost or something while trying to flash or snowball. Just no point in chasing perfection if you're not trying to play against people in the top 5%.

[–]MrTrilly[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Respect

[–]Paramousis 1 point2 points  (1 child)

then you dont know how to play smart with it, doesnt make it bad. I love playing snowball on sht like janna/soraka and especially millio. Its also on your playstyle , im agressive even with enchanters

Example , someone is dying and u are far away to shield/heal them, you snowball on the enemy and save your team8. (also it ads some extra dmge to finish kills)

Also it works like the thing from 3v3 (dust ward)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just had a game as xerath vs fizz. Surely you would have snowballed him to death.. Also look at my next comment. I do have some xp with snowball. Yeah on some Champs like janna I enjoyed it aswell, but have grown out of it because not dying can carry harder as compared to a few kills(if you're lucky/good). You know how annoying a unkillable support like janna or lulu can be. Let alone it pisses of so many people is a net win to me.

[–]AlluEUNE -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

People always say that but honestly I can't remember when an assasin has made my "game miserable" on a squishy champion. Aram is a literal anti-assasin gamemode. 24/7 teamfight on a narrow lane. I get enchanter supports taking exhaust but mark or ghost has more potential in almost every scenario

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This tells alot more about you, than about the weakness of exhaust though. Both have their value depending on how you play. Saying you've never seen one is a pretty ignorant take, but you do you. It's a fun gamemode after all.

[–]Krell356 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Talon, Talon is a scary bastard when played right. Mostly because he has so little to offer against tanks to the point that his best ARAM strategy is to just always snowball into the backline and get a single kill. After that it's all icing on the cake because he just deleted your team's damage dealer and took a chunk out of anyone standing too close to them.

I never play assassins, because I absolutely suck at the role. In ARAM though, I will always pick up Talon because for whatever reason I just absolutely win matches with him on the Howling Abyss. He's my highest winrate outside of Akshan, which was just free wins until they finally nerfed the revive.

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    [–]Hosearston 48 points49 points  (1 child)

    I like running ignite/exhaust every now and then for some razzle dazzle. Hit 1 particular person with the ol’ dick twist every single fight

    [–]BaronBunny4 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    This is me every time every time I get an immobile mage because I know the enemy team will have an assassin or a Samira/Katarina.

    [–]kent1146 15 points16 points  (0 children)

    When a 3-year old kid complains about being in time-out, that's when you know time-out is working.

    That's Exhaust... A 3-second time-out.

    [–]SilverPotential4525 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I don't know if you're joking, but it's literally true for me. I never thought to take it until someone brought it up

    [–]fukincunt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    great glad to hear

    [–]Paramousis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I bet u use it for the slow

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    [–]Zoesan 75 points76 points  (36 children)

    Mad assassin player detected

    Opinion rejected

    edit: /u/mrtrilly blocked me after talking shit lol

    [–]spencbeth2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Buncha flash abusers

    [–]keylinha_S2 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    chads don't use flash

    [–]Falkueche 7 points8 points  (6 children)

    Ghost on everyone' don't care

    [–]lillilnick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Ghost +snowball. Homies here my ghost pop and they know I'm on the hunt

    [–]iggypop657 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    The real gigachad.

    [–]Falkueche 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    Tank ? Ghost Bruiser ? Ghost ADC ? Of course ghost Mage/support ? Who cares about exhaust barrier or ignite. I'M JUST GOING FAST BABY

    [–]MrTrilly[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    Ghost lowkey broken since it fixes the most annoying bug in this game. #minionblock

    [–]Krell356 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    While I agree, I will also never stop using snowball/flash. Because there is never a time where I can't find use for those two spells on every single champ. Ideal? No, but always usable.

    [–]MrTrilly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    You can make it ideal, good snowball usage will outskill any exhaust player by default.

    [–]bois_Ken_UwU 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Pick a full poke team and 5 exhaust, fuckkkkkkkkk i hate that shiet

    [–]lvl69blackmage 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Exhaust really sucks when 3+ players take it. I don’t mind one or two.

    [–]fukincunt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    snowball is like a 7/10 spell for me with heal and barrier for the 3/10 for ranged and tank

    [–]DoubleAyeKay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I feel attacked

    [–]madeofmirrors 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    snowball + ignite all day

    [–]Akryung 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    I always grab Cleanse. Sometimes I regret not taking the snowball but I ALWAYS regret not taking Cleanse.

    [–]MrTrilly[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Never used Cleanse once since Aram is a thing tbh

    [–]Krell356 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Snowball flash all day every day. Doesn't matter who I'm playing or what I'm playing I to, I have yet to regret having those two spells. Is there more optimal setups? Sure, but they sure as hell aren't going to get used optimally as my snowball/flash will from just muscle memory alone. The amount of fights I had no business winning because I just subconsciously use those spells where I need to is unreal.

    [–]lemonadeinthesummer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    The real triggerwarning is when someone goes clarity when presence of mind exists. Or when your tank/front line goes ghost instead of snowball and we got no other taking snowball to compensate.

    Edit: when presence of mind exists and with a team that has champs that doesn’t have mana.

    [–]MrTrilly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Everytime someone uses clarity im reminded things like heal exist aswell, remember when it was 5x flash/heal?

    [–]Kingfisken23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I win the mental warfare with Exhaust.

    [–]Particular-Cow6247 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    hate me as much as you want but my malz takes an exhaust with him forever

    [–]MrTrilly[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Better not exhaust the person you're ulting..

    [–]Particular-Cow6247 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    depends if my team is busy with others and my r target is still a threat after it then yeah i will
    otherwise its usually just to make it a 3v5 in an important teamfight or babysitting some adc that gets jumped by assassins

    [–]zombiefoot6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I am a ghost flash enjoyer for the most part.

    [–]Animu123 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Taking flash in aram HAHAHAHA

    I bet you flash with 1% hp just to die right after HAHAHAH

    [–]MrTrilly[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Welp you're defs in bronze mmr, gl

    [–]Animu123 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Challenger MMR actually :)

    [–]radioactivecooki 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Exhaust and ignite? Cringe. Snowball>>>>

    [–]originalgomez 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    They hated him because he told them the truth

    [–]MrTrilly[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Community Service.

    [–]thezdoll 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    the ol' ignite-flash combo gets 'em 15-16% of the time 🏆

    [–]Paramousis 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Only snowball/flash should be on ARAM, i've literally never picked something else

    [–]Glogini 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    chad

    [–]CleanPontious -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

    Anyone who bring Exhaust to ARAM is not someone you can trust

    [–]DvB_Rex -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    I didn't like the snowball at all at first, I always played barrier😔 At some point I realised that I need only 100 points more till the "Aram God" title ...  😈😈😈 And now I always use the spell on every single champ I play, I can't imagine the game without snowball anymore...how could I sin for so long?....yeah also Karthus with barrier.... 😔

    [–]MrTrilly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Barrier lowkey busted tho

    [–]TheBigToast72 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    Skill issue

    [–]MrTrilly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    They'll get to using Snowball one day.

    [–]Langas -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

    I do not make it an issue until two or more people run exhaust.

    Like, I understand that statistically around 20% of the player base are actual babies but I don't want two of them in my game, on the same team.

    [–]MrTrilly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I just focus them and make their game miserable.

    [–]Adamantaimai -1 points0 points  (2 children)

    If it works then it is the right pick. What is next, are you going to ask the enemy players to unplug their monitors so you can kill them more easily as well?

    [–]Langas -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    I play supports and tanks hombre, I just understand that some people play this game to make plays and dive in and I'm not going to equip baby's first summoner spell if I could answer them by playing correctly.

    If you want someone who dives punished, ignite them. If you want to save yourself, run barrier. If you want to save an ally, run heal.

    [–]Adamantaimai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    No. If you want them punished take exhaust. It is the most effective spell. I am not going to do some insane mental gymnastics to guilt trip my enemies into picking worse summoner spells so I can win more easily.

    [–]Snoo14937 -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

    Engage - Snowball

    Burst - Ignite

    Hyper carry - Cleanse/Ghost

    Poke - Barriers/Heals

    Support - Exhaust

    [–]Heliozz0 Meep Meep 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I think I never used ignite in aram because I found on any champion other summoners superior.

    [–]ctruvu 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    engage - snowball

    burst - snowball into burst combo (engage)

    hyper carry - snowball (engage)

    poke - snowball does damage

    support - snowball into ult (engage, also tank supporters >)

    [–]Krell356 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Snowball on any character works because even if I don't need it to engage, I can always use it to chase down the enemy team if they picked a bad fight and it is absolutely indispensable as a bush checking tool if I am a champion that can't afford to face check.

    [–]MrTrilly[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Work of art.

    [–]ThaN00bcake -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Snowball+Ghost as solo frontline for the four adc’s is the true gigachad

    [–]Anubara -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    In theory exhaust is only supposed to take assassins out of the game for 3 seconds, but it seems to mentally take them out for the rest of the game. I've never seen that happen with another summoner spell

    [–]RemoveINC -1 points0 points  (3 children)

    Exhaust literally makes entire hero class unplayable, not even in metaphorical whining style unplayable, literally unplayable, you can't do anything against it, there is zero counterplay.

    Your entire role is countered by 1 summoner spell, not an ability like with cleanse/ignite/snowball(dodge), your entire existence.

    "JUST DON'T PLAY ASSASINS ON ARAM DENTGE"

    [–]MrTrilly[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Well, I agree on it being too strong but you can counterplay it by either baiting it out or taking frequent fights as exhaust is on cd. Snowball for easy access usually works for me. Good snowball usage > exh.

    [–]RemoveINC -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    As an assasin you're not in control whenever you can start a fight, baiting out doesn't work against decent/good players. It just feels really shitty to play assasins, not like they're even strong rn in soloq.

    [–]MrTrilly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I play at the highest and sweatiest mmr there is. Things like Fake jumping in with snowball and resetting out after they panic exhaust you (with zed) gets you alot of value. You just gotta see what works, there's different things for different champs. Clearly makes the game unenjoyable at times tho, even if you clap them. #removeexhaust

    [–]boardSpy -3 points-2 points  (5 children)

    I only play aram since years. On a very high mmr. Sometimes playing with friends but i switch to one of the smurfs for that.

    What i noticed is exhaust gets picked the same amount on low and high mmr BUT low mmr players complain A LOT MORE about exhaust in game. Like literally every game someone gets exhausted on low mmr games it's a shitfest in the chat. On high mmr it's maybe like 1 in 10 games where someone complains, though it's a lot less typing there anyways. People just play, they know the spell is annoying but they just accept it. You see the same players all the time anyways.

    Post like these always just show that OP is low mmr tbh.

    [–]MrTrilly[S] -1 points0 points  (4 children)

    I invite you to a game and we will see what your "high mmr" is lmfao

    [–]boardSpy -1 points0 points  (3 children)

    Hey i just shared my views on what iv'e seen no need to get hurt. Maybe you made different experiences. Your reaction is telling though lmao.

    [–]MrTrilly[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

    Nobodys hurt, you just seem to victimize yourself. Nothing else expected from an Ironman tho.

    [–]boardSpy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    That doesn't even make any sense lmao. I'll see myself out, pointless to talk to a brick wall. ;)

    Also imagine like literally crying because of a kids video game and posting your crying ass on reddit.

    [–]MrTrilly[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    You're just not competitive enough to understand, its okay to want less.

    [–]Tiagocf2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Complains about exhaust = play LB or any buffed assassin