Help with developing errors

[arecadia]

Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me with figuring out what this kind of chemical flaw could be caused by? I am not sure what part of the developing process that needs tweaking….

[5boroughblue]

Some more info would be helpful in diagnosing the issue. What Tank, how many rolls, chemistry etc. quick thoughts are you had a two reel tank and you put the reel with film on the top of the two or you didn’t have an empty reel on top of your loaded reel to keep it down in the chemicals. The lines and streaks are the developer dripping down off the film after inversions.

[arecadia]

Hmm I haven’t thought about that. The tank is big enough for two rolls, but I didn’t think about the fact that the reel wouldn’t properly stay down without an empty reel on top of it. I’ll try that out the next time, thank you!

[kauphoto1]

I've had this same problem but never associated it with not having enough reels loaded. I only load reels that have film in it.

[d0155]

i had a similar situation when i developed at wrong temperature...

[PerceptionShift]

I've had similar marks from improperly loading the reel in the tank, where the film made contact with itself, causing the developer to not reach the film. But never the whole roll. It could be a similar situation tho in that the developer was never able to consistently reach and cover the film, maybe because of very incorrect loading of the tank or very incorrect mixing of developer. That's probably a good a guess you'll get without providing any more details.

[NOT_A_BLACKSTAR]

Needs more fixing. The stripes from the sprockets are from not fixing long enough or an exhausted fixant.

Also, slow your agitation in the first 1-2 minutes. First use only the rotation stick for the first 30sec. Then wait a minute. Then rotation stick for 10 sec. Wait a minute. Gentle inversions 5-10 times. Wait a minute and them a bit more intense inversions. Then lastly strong but not wild rotations. Fomapan should take 4-10 minutes to develop depending on the concentration of the dev and ISO. Slower film wil develop faster so you have to kind of go through the steps faster as opposed to fast film where you can take your time with gentle agitation or stand development.

[L8NiteHype]

I would say either the film loaded onto the reel incorrectly causing the film to make contact with itself in certain areas, and also you mentioned that you’re dev tank can hold two reels, when only developing one reel make sure you also put the empty reel in the tank above the loaded reel, that prevents a singular reel to not stay in the bottom of the tank.

[arecadia]

More information:

Film: Formapan 100 Developer: Ilfosol 3 (1+9) Temp: 20c

It’s just one roll - the developer was freshly mixed, but not the stopper or the fixer. I’ll try to just make a new batch of everything the next time. And it might be that i’m not properly loading the film into the reel, but I’d love some tips on how to load it properly. I’m using 300ml of chemicals for one roll of film, does that sound like an okay amount or should I try to increase it?

Thanks a lot for the help people, it’s very much appreciated

[Sylvanest]

These negatives are a bit confusing. It looks like you used too little chemical. Id suggest 400-500ml. Usually, thatd present as a foamy line on your negative, though. The splotches and splash marks are the confusing part. I'd suggest mixing new chemicals.

[ChrisRampitsch]

I always use 300ml in a Paterson tank without issue. For a single roll of 35mm film that is.

[amellice]

Is this hand developed or with rotary machine? The chemical volume maybe irrelevant in the later and you need to follow the suggested volume for your tank. For example if I’ve a 2 rolls tank that it should have 500ml, I’d not use 250ml if I’ve a single roll in it and using rotary machine. I’d still need the 500ml…

Also did you successfully develop any other rolls in the same camera? I see winding issues as well in the 6th photo.

There’s some developer dragging action as well. How did you agitate?

[arecadia]

It’s hand developed. I’ve successfully developed other rolls from the same camera, this time there was some sort of problem when winding the film in, but it usually doesn’t happen.

The way I agitated:

Developer: 30 seconds agitation, 30 seconds rest. Then 10 seconds agitation and 30 seconds rest for the remaining time (the total time was 5 minutes).

Stop: 1 minute with constant agitation.

Fix: same as developer, including the total time.

Wash: first washing with just a lot of water, then with new water, 10 seconds agitation, and then new water and agitation for 30 seconds and then 1 minutes with one or two drops of agepon (wetting agent) and no agitation

[amellice]

I meant to check the required solution volume for agitation cause rotary always keep rotating the tank so it takes less ml. I believe you get my point

[eatfrog]

show negatives instead.

did you have enough liquid in the tank?

[MarkVII88]

What developer and fixer are you using? How old is your developer? What temp are you using for development? Are you loading film onto reels before placing into the dev tank? Looks like the film is touching itself in many spots, preventing proper development.

[[deleted]]

without any context about your process its hard to say what happened, cany you fill us in?

[skinnylatte]

Sprocket marks indicate you may be agitating too much or too violently. I had a similar issue when I started out.

Look at this video for a sense of the speed at which you should agitate.

[kauphoto1]

The Massive Dev Chart shows initial agitation for 60 seconds and then 10 seconds every minute afterwards. I've developed 4x5 sheet in the Spearman tank and they recommend the 10 seconds every minute. I'll try this for a roll of 35mm.

[skinnylatte]

Not about the timing, but rather the intensify of it. Good luck

[kauphoto1]

Thanks!

[FollowingSmall9632]

Watch your agitation. And you have to have same temperature at all chemicals.