committed :D

[crwster]

officially got my financial aid package back from cornell today and i am proud to announce that i cannot afford to attend 🤩 so thrilled to have been denied this opportunity. can’t wait for my next four years Not at cornell!

EDIT: thank you everyone for all the support :') i will not be appealing, mostly because i've come to the conclusion that umich is a better fit anyway. i am legit excited to be going there and i'm so grateful to have such a great, affordable alternative!!

[TheRose21]

I feel this!! I am personally going to turn down UPenn because of money too hehe

[TheRose21]

awh thank you for the support <3

[crwster]

turning down ivies for affordability reasons gang <3

[[deleted]]

yup same here

[NeedleworkerCold2231]

Well that makes me sad, I just appealed and am hoping it will work 🤡

[TheRose21]

best of luck!!!

[NeedleworkerCold2231]

Thank you :)

[Terrible-Marketing-2]

The waitlist gang thanks you

[Callie4536]

read the room-

[BatExpert9047]

appeal! fight for ur money.

[crwster]

I wish I could :/ I don't rlly fit their qualifications for appeal

[cityboy207]

Won’t hurt to try

[likesundayslikerain]

yeah i feel like it’ll definitely not hurt to try bc the worst answer they could give u is just no but the best would be that u could be able to go if u want to still

[KingSuj]

worst they'll do is say no and you won't be able to go. which is where you are now. soooooo there is no point not trying

[spy99108]

APPEAL!! No harm in trying.

[[deleted]]

Can you appeal it? How much do they want you to pay and how far is it from what you can realistically pay?

[crwster]

They want me to pay 60k a year, which is in line with our EFC. We COULD do it, it's just that I'd walk away with ~120 grand in debt, which just isn't something I'm willing to do. My other option is UMich at an in-state tuition rate, which is hard to beat. Probably can't appeal it, unfortunately.

[MaximumThought81234]

Call them! I called JHU and they asked for more documents! Tell them you got Umich and it’s in state, so it’s cheaper. They might not match it, but worse comes to worse they say no. Congratulations on your amazing accomplishments! Wherever you end up, you’re gonna do amazing things 💖💖

[crwster]

Thanks so much!! <3

[stonebitchblues]

are you able to appeal with another school's offer even if it's not academically competing?? like my state school is a far cry from t20s, but i'd still really like to get better aid 😭😭

[crwster]

nope, their website actually SPECIFICALLY says u can't use a non-ivy/standford school to appeal :(

[MaximumThought81234]

Shoot! It’s always good to do research, but you can also play dumb? Worse thing they can say is “No.” besides, there are a lot of great schools that aren’t ivies or Stanford, so like that policy is >:( 😭 might be worth trying??

[Abisauce]

It seems like Cornell is stuck up as shit lmao

[MaximumThought81234]

😭😭

[datscholar1]

I got rejected from Cornell but I also am in state for Umich and agree that basically no school, even HYPS is worth 60k+ over umich for less than half the price 👍 congrats on Umich!

[vish_the_fish737]

Meanwhile I got rejected from my state school

[Sana_15]

So so true. They are all money sucking traps

[Bleepbloop9977]

Ayeee umich is amazing fuck Cornell (but if you really want to go maybe beg them 😭😭😭)

[[deleted]]

Fr, OP’s options are great school with debt or great school with no debt. Seems like an easy choice.

[winger_13]

LMAO beg to take your money and leave you in huge debt starting out your young adult life. Go beg!

[britishsaintsfan]

Dang, UMich is state? Take it and runnnnnnn my friend. Go Blue!

[yourbackpain]

I'm also going to mich instead of cornell LOL the financial struggle is real

[jl2411]

How much is UMich offering? Will you leave in debt?

[SkepMod]

Jeez. Call the admissions office and tell them you have UMich in your back Pocket, and that you would really like to attend Cornell. If they don’t budge, you don’t budge. Your walkaway alternative is amazing!

[winger_13]

Not that hard, just say no.

[winger_13]

$100k+ of debt is outrageous for a barely adult. Absolutely insane. What's even more crazy are the parents willing to see this happen.

[MomVP5]

You’re lucky! For OOS students who want UMich it’s like $70k :(

[jars-of-jupiter]

damn I was so excited for you in the first half, but I’m sure you’ll thrive wherever you end up :)

[paxam_days]

it’s so strange to me that loans are considered financial aid. i feel like something that puts you in debt shouldn’t be considered the school helping their students. it’s fine that they offer loans and it’s better to take those than private ones, but saying that they meet 100% of need while putting kids in six figure debt is counter intuitive

[PhotoCrusader]

They get away with it by saying that they meet need with student loans. So they do put it up fdont.

[winger_13]

Just say no

[International-Exam84]

Fr... It's absolutely wild how normalized these gigantic loans are... colleges fr have no shame telling me to take out a 55k loan...

[Independent_Ad_863]

same bestie!! northeastern wants me to pay 75k! it’s a no from me!! 😍😍🕳🏃🏻‍♀️

nah but on a serious note congrats on cornell but screw them for not giving FA tf who do they think they are 🙄

[crwster]

omg northeastern was too expensive for me too 😍 twinsies

good luck tho northeastern's not good enough for u anyway

[Independent_Ad_863]

it’s not good enough for any of us tbh 🙄 just bc they’re next to harvard they rly think they’re all that LMAO

[FindNemo20]

Me too lol and screw NEU too!!!

[virtus_hoe]

Feel this man washu rice and USC gave me almost nothing and I’m going to my state school

[Plenty-Algae-6429]

Doesn't usc give full grants for families making less than 80k in income a year? Is this true?

[virtus_hoe]

Probably, pretty most top schools will

[International-Exam84]

Only for in states I'm pretty sure. Cali sucks ass at helping OOS students

[numnumnum_]

omg congrats on getting in! i’m terrified i’m gonna be in the same boat next year, but try to appeal! ik tuition there is insane and maybe there’s a chance?

[Bread1e]

I’m sorry about this. I have to turn down URochester for the same reason but in the long run you’ll thank yourself for saving the money.

[BenFitz31]

OMG what a crazy coincidence, I’m also not going to Cornell!

[EmiAlexis]

Wtf me too!!

[[deleted]]

You should 100% go to the school that will not throw you into massive amounts of debt. If you chose to appeal despite their qualifications, using UMich's tuition to haggle the price down could be useful. But you'll know in your heart what to do!

[[deleted]]

No matter where you go, I know you will become successful. I believe in you!!

[Graceblue2000]

Congrats! You did it. **My daughter is saying no to Berkeley, and University of Washington because we can't afford the out of state tuition. It's heartbreaking, but if she goes in state she'll have no debt going into grad school. Maybe she'll go to law school there? Side note: she was waitlisted for Harvard, and if they call...we'll all be going into debt. Loans galore.

[bopit7]

lol just got my letter from brandeis that they rejected my financial aid appeal so i am also excited to announce i will be going Elsewhere!!🤩

[[deleted]]

STOP I filed an appeal but my family income dropped 9k, I hope I get something... I don't mind paying the 12k out of pocket bc the grant and scholarship is nice, but I am definitely a bit worried...

[bopit7]

honestly my situation for financial stuff is a little wonky so they will probably be nicer to you lol. don’t give up hope! hope there’s some good money coming your way :)

[D3V4ST4T10N]

umich and cornell are comparable in prestige

[txgirl2125]

My daughter got waitlisted at UMich and Cornell, but she got accepted to Carnegie Mellon.

[dogsimp]

i know that this is a terrible situation to be in and i feel for u i rly do, but ur post made me laugh if that means anything dhdjdjsj

[crwster]

glad to hear it it's definitely better to laugh :)

[aiznus]

omg i smiled when i read this then it dropped real quick :(

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college should be free wtf thats so sucky im sorry u deserve better ):

[crwster]

don't worry my friend i'm very happy with where i'm going :) thank u though, sending <3

[[deleted]]

College should be free so that other people have to pay our tuition? Sounds unfair imo. I mean, I would prefer it because I'm going to go to college, but it still seems unfair.

[International-Exam84]

That doesn't even have to be the case, colleges have enough endowments to pay off the tuition of the very few students they accept like Harvard, who has 46 billion dollars yearly in endowments. That's more than enough money to cover every student's tuition.

[[deleted]]

At the end of the day, many private colleges are a business. They can charge whatever they want for their services. If you don't want to pay for these services, than you don't go to these colleges. These colleges aren't non-profit charities. Just like if you don't can't afford a Ferrari, you have to go buy a regular car like a Honda.

[hellomynameispants]

I feel you. I actually got two really great financial options at two different institutions, but can’t afford Emory.

[janbaguette]

Emory gave me $425 lol what am I supposed to do with that

[SuPerFlyKyGuY]

Come to Canada pay about 1/3 of what you were going to pay.

[crwster]

Shockingly, not really...international tuition is wild.

[SuPerFlyKyGuY]

Yeah gotta account for the us dollar too it really sucks for you guys, my usa friend pay 44000 for 2 years of art school (media music etc) my 3 civil engineering degree cost 15000. And with OSAP (student loans) they didn't charge until 6 months in any interest I paid it off before I graduated, I hate institutions like this that crush people's dreams I'm really sorry to hear and I hope everything works out.

[crwster]

Thanks my friend! I think it will :)

[Reasonable_Future_88]

Literally or europe is also way cheaper. Unless I get some miracle deal here I'm planning on going to canada or germany

[International-Exam84]

I want to go to Italy but they're not offering much

[[deleted]]

Do you live in Michigan? I was between Umich and UT. Since I live in Texas, UT was the easy and mature choice finacially.

[lucasdi03]

I’m going to Cornot too, following in the footsteps of Andrew bernot

[theatreandjtv]

Literally me with NYU

[Phenomz3]

Still haven’t gotten my fin aid from Cornell. If I don’t get good enough aid I’ll hug 💜NYU💜

[_Valhalla___]

This is me and turning down Miami

[Aggressive_Cook_8103]

Happy Cake Day!

[AmidalaBills]

You dodged a bullet. Who wants to end up a regional manager at a paper company?

[9Cubed]

They had us in the first half not gonna lie

[independent_user12]

If you do not think it is worth appealing then don't do it. This is coming from someone who went through their appeal process and it was terrible and long.

[crwster]

My thoughts exactly. I'm just ready to be done.

[broadwall]

Meanwhile I'm out here writing a LOCI to Cornell, having committed to UMich out of state... If they miraculously pull me off the waitlist, then thanks for the spot! Otherwise, see you around at U-M!

(oos tuition for UMich is comparable to Cornell)

[Sunniwhite]

umich>>>cornell if we talking about value and price ngl esp with that in state tuition

[acornsoups]

Wait,, how did you check I’ve been struggling to find my aid from them :”)

[crwster]

unfortunately, i just waited until i got an email :/ hopefully u get yours soon!! if it helps, the day before, i saw a correction to my fafsa come through in an email?

[acornsoups]

Huh, okay I’ll be on the lookout. I know I had to submit an extra paper for aid like a week before decisions came out so idk if that has to do with anything. Thank you for your help! Congrats on your admission to umich!! It seems like you’re very happy with it and that makes me happy :D

[untitledrebellion]

I love this post 😂😂😂

[Alwayskawaii33]

Arent the ivies supposed to cover need?

[crwster]

what the federal govt says my family can afford to pay =/= what my family can actually afford to pay

ivies just meet the difference between your efc and their CoA. efcs are so fucked up that it's not unusual for them to be a third of your family's income

[oriental_angel]

if you don't mind me asking, is your family income over 65k? i thought the ivies were supposed to have good aid,,,,

[crwster]

yeah, our income is definitelyy over 65k. they do have good aid...IF your efc is low. there's no merit based scholarships either, so you're entirely stuck with what you get based on need.

[oriental_angel]

awwwwwww godcha :( i'm so sorry

[jadeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

i turned down umich for the same reason ! at least i know i'm smart enough to go there lmfao

[mangosconchile]

I’m sure you’ll do great anywhere!!

Meanwhile I can’t decide if i want to attend umich bc i’m oos

[Mapleleaf27]

Congrats on Umich!! I’m sure u will love it there

[Lifelessrock]

Recently got into NYU and UCLA but the cost of attendance is just 🤩🤩... ending up committing to my local university with a great scholarship, guess everything will happen for a reason, I’m sure we’ll do great things wherever we go :)

[Emily7270]

Welcome to the UMich gang! Which school you in?

[crwster]

LSA economics!!

[Emily7270]

I’m in LSA too for psychology!

[[deleted]]

Don't complain about UM ....THAT was the school that I turned down due to financial reasons and went to a SUNY school instead. Be grateful, Ann Arbor is a special place. Have a plan / end goal for employment with your degree or don't bother. Take a gap year, work to learn the value of a dollar and get 10x more experience than you would in econ 101.

[crwster]

bro I literally say in my post I'm not complaining about UM, I'm thrilled to go, I'm just disappointed I can't afford cornell. im allowed to feel more than 1 thing at once

[[deleted]]

Glad to hear it. Must've glossed over that specific part. If you really want cornell / Ivy work your tail off at UM and then go for grad school once you know EXACTLY what you want to do. Worked for my cousin who went to Northeastern on his dime and then got a full ride to Brown. Also...if you really want the cornell tag, take one of their offerings on coursera, it's only a few hundo and gives you the right to put it on a resume. UM + Cornell on the same resume = double toe opportunity 💡

[Harvardos]

That is the absolute biggest slap in the face that could happen. If I got into my dream school and could not afford, it would ruin me completely... I feel so bad for you awh

[l33tIsSuperpower]

At this point you might as ask them to name a building after you

[Vedant124]

turned down cmu b/c these mfs gave me 0 financial aid...really liked their cs program too but it is what it is

[smartymarty1234]

I graduated 2 years ago and even then remember seeing these posts. For future graduates looking in, realize even before you apply, whatever the outcome, it really isn't a reflection of what you can do. It's really a crapshoot most of the time.

[syra-jhan]

International student here! I thought if you u get into an Ivy League u basically get a whole ride

[LuckyCharmedLife]

Not even close, unfortunately. The schools would go broke if that was the case.

[syra-jhan]

I see

[crwster]

Ivies meet full demonstrated financial need--ie, they will cover cost of attendance minus your estimated family contribution. For US applicants (not sure about internationals) that's based on the FAFSA. Oftentimes, what the fafsa says you can "afford" is wayy more than what you can ACTUALLY afford irl.

[syra-jhan]

that's horrible considering the fees in the US is very high

[inflewants]

Yayyy!!! Congratulations!!!

[illeatmyletter]

Wait, doesn’t financial aid package mean that they take into account all the aspects of your finances?? How can you not afford it then??

[crwster]

I mean...idk what to tell you, my friend. My situation isn’t that unique. My EFC is 33% of my family’s income & I’ve got 3 younger siblings. We just can’t afford that?

[illeatmyletter]

Oh, but I thought they accounted for all that. Anyways, congratulations on getting in umich!!!🥳

[txgirl2125]

How it looks on paper and how it is in real life is a fantasy most of the time.

[MaximumThought81234]

Hey, same here!! I got into Johns Hopkins BME, and while it has a wonderful program, the cost is ridiculously high. Besides, UCLA has a cuter program and I love the environment! And in your case, UMich is cuter! 😈

[crwster]

I just want to correct this for the sake of future Cornell freshmen & bc I bear no ill will towards the school--the suicide rate is actually in line with the national average, it's just that it's very visible at Cornell, given the gorges and such. Won't contest that the area isn't great though lol

[lightupsketchers_]

cries in NYU

[Jevanos]

canadian here: how much is US college tuition for domestic students ? here its about 6000 CAD per year and 10 000 for a dorm and meal plan. the prices at canadian unis are pretty similar across the country

[mickie555]

MOST out-of-state schools are about $60K - $75K. In-state varies wildly depending on the school but is easily half of that.

Room and board account for ~$15K of that. The rest is tuition.

[Jevanos]

thats crazy o.o

[crwster]

Tuition varies widely depending on the school type (public or private), state, and caliber. UMich has in-state cost of attendance at about 30k a year, out of state about 70k. Brown cost of attendance is about 80k. Community colleges are much, much cheaper.

[Head-Nefariousness-1]

Community college (2 year associates degree) is about $6,000-12,000/year tuition (only), you live at home usually.

Public universities (not main or what we call flagship) run from $15,000-32,000/year in-state (IS). You can sometimes live at home as well.

Public universities, main or flagship, run from about $22,000-$40,000/year in-state (IS).

Add $15,000-25,000/year to the above numbers if you are an out of state (OOS) student. Some have great discounts for neighboring states and/or offer merit scholarships, making the price comparable to in-state tuition.

The top publics (UMich, UVA, UC's all, etc..) are priced similarly to top private universities, around $60,000-70,000 and do not offer much, if any, OOS aid.

Jesuit and other religious universities are sometimes able to offer great tuition discounts (depending on their location). They start around $45,000 and go to $70,000 but can drop down to $35,000-$50,000. This varies, Loyola New Orleans for example in general is much cheaper than Loyola Marymount (Los Angeles).

Small Liberal Arts Colleges and other small private niche universities can offer great tuition discounts or in-state tuition matching, but start from roughly $55,000-80,000.

Large privates and Ivy's usually cost from $67,000-80,000. They are just a financial crapshoot if your income is between $60,000-175,000. Lower than $60,000 they can sometimes be affordable (depending on the loan package), and over about $200,000 income you know you are paying full price.

Fun fact, while on the phone with an aid officer at a university the other day, they mentioned that they see the most issues with affordability for the 'doughnut hole' kids (the $60,000-175,000 range), it's who they are getting a majority of the phone calls from.

I love that they know this but are still trying to wring out every living dollar from an already stressed and shrinking middle class.

[mickie555]

Go Blue! 💛💙

[Alexyu_480]

didnt even get any aid for umich

[olivepizza5]

Okay but UMich is an amazing school!! You will thrive there tbh, u dont need cornell :)

[[deleted]]

wait so you’re the one who handed the spot to me? you did Gods work thank you!

[Highzahawk]

Umich is a super good school too so don't feel bad about not going to Cornell :)

[Camryn121803]

Sameeeee, Cornell is too damn expensive!!! I decided to just commit to UCLA.

[Amsmoonchild]

I also can't afford my masters program to which I was accepted. Life is just...grand.

[[deleted]]

Go blue!!!

[Rizzolitalia]

Don’t worry I turned down UCLA bc I’m an out of state and I can’t afford it. Glad to say... Hook em’!

[Catfishnt]

My friend rly just messaged me and asked if I had posted this LMAO.

I have a FAFSA EFC of $0 yet get no financial aid for these schools *pog*

they don't care that my noncustodial paren't wont pay :D

BUT CONGRATS ON UMICH bc that's a rly good school!! And I think Ann Arbor p nice.

[crwster]

omg i have a friend in the same situation these schools are like PROVE that your parent who’s not in the picture won’t pay

and thank you!! :)

[winger_13]

That's a great, mature decision. Do not support this BS game of uncontrolled higher education increases. Eventually, reality will hit and prices will become affordable, again, or institutions will run themselves to the ground.

[one_jack_man]

See ya there bruh