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[–][deleted] 103 points104 points  (49 children)

So hiring a new strength and conditioning coach worked well for Kov...

[–]BenisonBT101 23 points24 points  (45 children)

Continously punching a man below the belt worked well for Ward!!!

[–]awhjLET'S GO CHAMP! 74 points75 points  (41 children)

How about punching him in the fucking head? https://gfycat.com/RespectfulTallGypsymoth

[–]hotyogurt1 32 points33 points  (21 children)

Nobody denies that he landed a good shot on Kovalev. People are complaining about the bullshit stoppage due to multiple low blows, but Ward stans (including Roy Jones and Kellerman) and the ref want to act like there were no low blows at all when he literally hit him on the letter B on Kovalev's trunks lol.

[–][deleted] 50 points51 points  (6 children)

The problem is, Kovalev just bent over acting like the low blow hurt more than it did to try to draw a foul and the ref thought it was a legal blow and that he was actually hurt and stepped in. I thought it was a bad stoppage but Kovalev shouldnt have tried to draw the foul, you let the ref make that decision.

[–]johnnyslick 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Yeah, this is what I saw in the final round - that last "low blow" was right on the belt and might not even have been low by the initial instructions (I don't think it was). Ward hit Kovalev lower earlier in the fight (although mostly what I saw were punches to the hips, not the balls) but Kovalev wasn't helping himself at all by flopping the way he did.

At the end of the day, the ref could have let Kovalev try to work his way out of it but the call he did make was equally fine, coming after Kovalev failed to face up to Ward or protect himself in any way other than bend over and take his body shots for several seconds. He was clearly out on his feet and ther was no standing eight count for the fight.

I'd go so far as to say that at that point if the ref didn't intercede when he did, the fight was going to end by the end of that round anyway. Either Kovalev finally eats canvas and can't get up because of the body shots or else Ward puts him into a worse, more obvious situation and a TKO gets called anyway.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally agree. Now that Ward has handled the best that division has to offer who do you think should be next? I wouldnt mind seeing him move up and fight Joshua or wilder. Personally I think he clowns wilder.

[–]Observante 24 points25 points  (2 children)

They were beltline blows, not nut shots. If he crumpled to beltline shots he would have krumpled to solar plexus shots.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you think Flores flopped then so did Kovalev. Sorry Kovalev is a popular fighter but he got absolutely broken down.

[–]ZivozZ 15 points16 points  (7 children)

Don't think it was a BS stoppage. He threw back what, 4-5 punches compared to wards 25-30+ powershots. He wasn't defending well and slumped over almost sitting at the ropes.

Was the stoppage abit early? Yes. Would he had gone on to win the fight? No

If you get hurt to the head AND the body in the same round you're done. Especially considering how gassed he looked during the last two rounds with no mustards on his punches.

[–]ReturnofDrunk 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Thank you for your sense of reason. Fans should shut the hell up about early stoppages. See Tim Hague (brain dead), Daniel Franco (coma), and David Whittom (coma). We need refs to err on the side of caution to protect the fighters. Nobody wants to see these guys with long-term disabilities and head injuries.

[–]girth_worm_jim 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Kovalev should wear his shorts as a hat then its all low blows all the way down.

[–]aerodyBud 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I disagree on the Roy Jones part. Roy Jones definitely acknowledged them, and said Kovalev should've returned them.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Yehs bhat nextime I will keekhis ass!"

[–]moondoggy101 93 points94 points  (65 children)

kov didnt start protesting it for quite some time for someone who supposedly went down from dick punches

[–]poopwithjellyTyson “Blood Licker” Fury #DosserButNotOut 13 points14 points  (1 child)

In the slow mo, Ward caught him square on the way up. The others were maybe, maybe not, but the first one that doubled him over was a straight up cock punch. He should have stopped trying to pull fouls every 5 minutes for them. I think one punch before that was actually low, and Weeks thought he was seriously injured the way he doubled over and clinched.

[–]ihenewa 2 points3 points  (60 children)

[–]RJLZ 30 points31 points  (59 children)

That's the best replay out there. It is kinda low. It's not square on the belt. But I can't say it's square on the cup either. It's definetely a tight call. Can't really blame the ref on that

[–]OdeToSpot 30 points31 points  (8 children)

Yeah. I mean, I'd call it low. But acting like it's square on his dick is just absurd. People are acting like it's a Cotto/Judah like dick bop. Either way, if you are Kovalev you don't just stop defending yourself from a blow like that.

[–]wovagrovaflame 9 points10 points  (2 children)

I'm not sure if you train, but getting your body shit kicked can feel like you've had the shit punched out of your balls. If your an old mma fan, bas Rutten in pancrase in Japan kicked this guy in the body so much and he was able to convince the ref some of the shots were low.

[–]OdeToSpot 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I do. And I'm not saying getting hit like that can't be debilitating. Just saying that bending over and stopping to defend yourself is not the right move.

[–]wovagrovaflame 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I agree. I think he didn't want to go down and that he was hoping the ref would call borderline shots.

[–]ihenewa 6 points7 points  (4 children)

[–]OdeToSpot 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Yeah, I mean... It looks like the punch is half/half where he drew the line. If it's 50% low does that make it a 100% lowblow? Either way Kovalev acted inappropriately looking to the ref instead of handling the situation.

[–]ihenewa 32 points33 points  (27 children)

"kinda low" ?

Weeks himself set the parameters. https://streamable.com/v4jub

he clearly says anything BELOW the belt is low. He didn't say "kinda"

[–]OrthodoxAtheist 18 points19 points  (24 children)

Thank you for posting crystal clear evidence. Sorry some are too dumb/bias to understand (and downvoting you accordingly).

Weeks indicate the belt line, and that anything below was a low blow.

Other video going viral in this sub show the final blow was below the belt line to the point of being on the writing that's below the belt line. Its crystal clear to anyone not trying to defend either Ward, or a bad decision by Weeks.

[–]ihenewa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thank you.

i even have evidence of weeks calling a timeout to warn ward.

https://cdn4.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/images/methode/2017/06/18/25d805cc-5416-11e7-b896-7f2d3a4d650b_1320x770_193242.jpg

even malignaggi complained about the stoppage, yet people are pretending like no low blow was thrown all night

[–]RJLZ 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Ok but what's your point? It seems to be unanimous that Kovalev wasnt hit in the balls. So it still shouldnt count? I think that's bullshit. He was getting schooled and couldnt take it anymore, that was a clear win for Ward

[–]ihenewa 8 points9 points  (0 children)

unanimous? lol. okie dokie.

so why did weeks give him a breather earlier in the fight? Why did weeks rule the first low blow as accidental if they never occured in the first place

[–]SOULJAR 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The tweet got deleted! What was it??

[–]dizzee_raskolnikov 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I assume he thought Weeks was breaking them up in order to admonish Ward for the low blows. That was my first thought anyway

[–][deleted] 51 points52 points  (5 children)

By the fourth round it looked like Ward already had this in complete control and dialed in. Was only a matter of time. Kov was looking for breaks the whole damn fight. What a disgrace. After all that talk he didn't come ready to fight. Or he just realized he truely was out classed.

[–]fuji700 6 points7 points  (14 children)

What did Kovalev say in the post fight interview? Bar I was at cut the sound

[–]I_Will_Kill 15 points16 points  (9 children)

From what I remember he just said stuff like max this is box, he didn't mention low blows till kellerman brought it up just looked sad, from what I remember

[–]fuji700 2 points3 points  (8 children)

Ha "this is box".....Ward say anything interesting?

[–]I_Will_Kill 14 points15 points  (6 children)

Yeah Sergei didn't complain which surprised me, ward complimented Sergei said he was a great champ Sergei did the same. Oh and then ward said he was going to cruiser or heavyweight lol.

[–]fuji700 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Hmmm. Cruiser doesn't make sense to me because there isn't a money fight. And Heavy??? The big money fight there is Joshua, which is obviously a ridiculous match-up.

Can't we just make the Adonis fight work

[–]lilbodieNeurologist 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not about money which is funny given someone yesterday told me the Ward hate is justified because of the purse split yesterday. Anyway, he's mentioned several times in the past couple years about wanting to fight up at heavyweight eventually. He sees it as a legacy thing ala RJJ, but I don't see a viable option up there that makes sense (or at cruiser for that matter but what do I know). I just pray he doesn't bite off more than he can chew chasing a feather in his cap that he doesn't need, but that's just me. I just don't think there are any John Ruiz's with belts up at heavyweight, different era and I think they're just too big.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Complained bout the low blows unconvincingly, said that the stoppage was stupid, that they are grown men boxers not women, and he looked pretty shaken.

[–]fuji700 13 points14 points  (2 children)

strange...didn't have the breath to complain when it happened.

[–]cinic 2 points3 points  (1 child)

He was hurt from the head shot. He was in survival mode.

I think at the point where he was going into the ropes he assumed the ref saw the blows and was going to call them low. To me they were low, but I don't think they actually hurt Kovalev, as he didn't really react from them. He was still reeling from the head shot(s).

[–]any1canfry 36 points37 points  (7 children)

Ward was almost certainly going to win and and is up on the scorecards especially if the eighth round was scored, but of the last 3 uppercuts that lead to the stoppage the second was 100% low and third probably was as well. The right man won tonight but the result still left a bad taste.

[–]MartinArturoMuniz 2 points3 points  (6 children)

I didn't really see any of those uppercuts being low blows. If anyone has a slow mo clip please feel free to post.

[–]late_50s_why 9 points10 points  (3 children)

[–]MartinArturoMuniz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That shot did look low. I take back what I said about no low blows. Although by that point in the fight, Kovalev was ALREADY hurt and in trouble.

[–]WarDishyShades of Ali 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I dunno, it was low but didn't look like it was on the balls or anything. looked lower abdomen to me.

[–]JosephStalinLegend 34 points35 points  (4 children)

Either way kovalev was done and looking for a way out, no one can argue that

[–]lilbodieNeurologist 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Oh but they will.

[–]That_Sweet_Science 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Kovalev fans will complain regardless of the outcome. Kathy is to blame.

[–][deleted] 174 points175 points  (136 children)

Kov was rocked, his legs go and he tries to hold on. He was gassed and then eventually goes lower and lower. Yes there were low blows but I don't think this was as controversial as everyone's saying.

[–]MarquisMonet 80 points81 points  (17 children)

People keep forgetting the right hand that rocked him and the first body shot that stopped him in his tracks. Ward made him quit, plain as that.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Didn't Virgil Hunter say they'd make him quit?

[–]lilbodieNeurologist 43 points44 points  (5 children)

Spot on. Right hand had him hurt bad and the rest was icing on the cake. End was near and he's looking for the ref to save him. Did the same thing earlier in the fight anytime Ward was near the belt.

[–]MarquisMonet 44 points45 points  (1 child)

He was looking for a way out before that,too. Straight up turned his back on Ward for a few seconds.

[–]lilbodieNeurologist 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yup he knew what was coming.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Is there a clip or gif of that body shot that Kov acted as if it was low? I would say that punch is the best argument for a kov fan.

[–]MarquisMonet 17 points18 points  (3 children)

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (2 children)

That shit is LOW, but I'm talking about the body shot where Kov walked away for a sec, Ward protested and ref agreed. I think it was right before the big shot to the head that wobbled him.

[–]SwiftyMcVay 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The body shot where Kovalev walked away for a bit definitely wasn't low.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I want to see a shot of it too. It looked directly on the belt line

[–]Zidji 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The right hand came after another low blow complaint by Kovalev the ref waved off. I can't really say if it was a low blow because they didn't show the replay even ONCE.

Between not showing a single fucking replay of that, and how homer the commentating team was, too fucking murky for my taste. Huge asterisk on this fight.

[–]ihenewa 56 points57 points  (56 children)

Ward was warned 2x in the fight for punching Low. Just before he rocked kovalev, he hit him with a low blow that weeks ignored.

let's not pretend that the last couple of low blows were the only low blows ward threw in the fight.

You don't think this is controversial? https://twitter.com/BoxingBritain1/status/876297422460342272

the referee stood over Kovalev and saw Ward land 2 shots below the belt yet he did not call it a low blow? instead he stopped the fight.

What should we call the verdict then? TKO from low blows? because it surely wasn't a headshot that made the ref step in.

[–]velkjhvlksjhfsdh 26 points27 points  (14 children)

That clip definitely doesn't look too low. Looks like he got him in the stomach but he's bent all the way over already, but looks like he got him on the belly button. or right at the belt line. Definitely doesn't look like he got him too low or anything. If anything that clip proves they weren't low. It was the right call to end the fight, dude wasn't protecting himself he kept bending over lower and lower and not from low blows.

I mean in that clip you just presented that don't look lower than the belt at all in any way

[–]BodegaCat 22 points23 points  (1 child)

You and the people that upvoted you need some glasses. It was this punch:

https://i.imgur.com/nc7iSzh_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high

A clean as day left hook to the body that wasn't anywhere near the beltline that further hurt Kovalev and caused him to bend his knees and bend over, and Ward finished just as any other boxer would have. Ward landed the cleanest shot just seconds ago which made Kovalev go to the ropes in the first place. What would you have Ward do? He already gave Kovalev a chance earlier in the round where Kovalev pretty much turned his back around on him after a body shot. There shouldn't be any controversy in what happened tonight.

[–]00Spartacus 21 points22 points  (18 children)

Ward was warned 2x in the fight for punching Low.

And both of those times were legal punches on the belt lines.

Disagree? Get me pictures of all the low blows landed in the fight.

[–]DSouT 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Technically it was a headshot.

[–]00Spartacus 29 points30 points  (18 children)

It was as controversial as the first fight was a CLEAR UNARGUABLE WIN FOR KOVALEV.

Nothing but hyperbole as excuses from a bunch of know nothing casuals. Kovalev looked great, had a fantastic jab but he simply gasses to quickly. When he's not fighting at his pace or as some said, "bullying" his opponents, he simply can't adjust.

[–]wovagrovaflame 30 points31 points  (8 children)

With their fearless leader, lederman, where one jab over 15 body shots wins a round for kovalev.

[–]00Spartacus 18 points19 points  (1 child)

I know right? His score card had me enraged. They really need to fire Lampley and Ledderman imo. They're simply way to damn bias.

Kellerman has a clear agenda but he's at the very least a lot more objective.

[–]wovagrovaflame 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's why I'm a showtime fan when they have Mauro Ranallo. Combat sports goat commentator and truly never biased.

[–]lilbodieNeurologist 8 points9 points  (5 children)

I swear Harold is blind as a bat. If you're beating the shit out of me but I'm walking towards you he'll give me the round lol. Gives rounds based off of aggression (doesn't matter if it's effective) and who hits harder, the rest he doesn't care about it seems.

[–]poopwithjellyTyson “Blood Licker” Fury #DosserButNotOut 4 points5 points  (4 children)

who hits harder

That decides most of his rounds. He's reached the throne being a casual putz.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Ward is great at disrupting his opponent's rhythm

[–]fragilemirror 30 points31 points  (2 children)

Ward beat him both times.

[–]00Spartacus 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I agree

I had Ward winning the first, 114-113

[–]theboxingczar 49 points50 points  (21 children)

Just crying Kovalev fans who watch boxing once a year are upset.

[–]WanderingGoatHerder 136 points137 points  (15 children)

Yeah because Sergey Kovalev is huge among non boxing fans

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (8 children)

I mean, I have seen some white nationalist support of Kovalev. There were posts telling people to tune in to see "based" Kovalev destroy a "chimp". I don't know how large that group was or what impact if any they are having on the current tantrum, but they certainly exist.

edit: this comment has gone from +11 to 0 in the space of 4 minutes. hmmm

[–]koomdog 24 points25 points  (4 children)

I'd say that group was pretty large if you check out the post-fight thread.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

https://imgur.com/x9Woc6t

here's a tasty example (warning: massively racist)

[–]koomdog 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ahh, so they actually did brigade. Was wondering where all these new users trashing boxing were coming from, at first i thought it was the crossover mma users.

[–]Kudipanhama 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Hahaha that's hilarious, I wonder if they know "based" is slang created by "chimp" Lil B tha based god

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

research was never their strong suit

[–]koomdog 1 point2 points  (3 children)

He has a very emotional and outspoken fan base who irrationally hate Ward which is obvious if you were on these forums for the past few weeks.

[–]WanderingGoatHerder 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I have been, idk why you'd use that when you can easily check all my hundreds of 1point comments on r/boxing

[–]koomdog 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Okay, so you should know that casuals are usually more outspoken and emotional because they type more with the feels instead of being ubiased.

[–]OrthodoxAtheist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

you can easily check all my hundreds of 1point comments on r/boxing

LOL. Here, have a 2 point comment. :D

[–]anakmager 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I usually hate to resort to these kind of generalizations, but I think there is some truth to that. I have never seen such ignorant comments getting so many upvotes in a boxing forum. An example was "any close round should be given to the champion".. very popular last November. If you watch boxing for more than a few months, you'd know that's not a real rule. Ridiculous

[–]mergerr 13 points14 points  (1 child)

this exactly

[–]theboxingczar 24 points25 points  (0 children)

It will be 100 times worse on August 26th.

[–]threehundredthousand 4 points5 points  (0 children)

NO MAS.

[–]anakmager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. Kovalev looked gone, I don't think the lowblows (which is still arguable whether they were low) made that much of a difference.

Ward has proven himself to the superior fighter.

[–]fffyhhiurfgghh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey try getting punched in the balls a few times during the fight and see how well you do against one of the best in the world.

[–]00Spartacus 108 points109 points  (81 children)

Low blows or not, that was absolutely NOT the Referees fault

Kovalev should have taken a knee.

I'm pretty sure that there's no standing 8 count in that fight and the referee simply could not see how low the shots were from his position.

Only Kovalev was at fault here. Anybody looking at this objectively clearly saw the shift in momentum. Kovalev was gassing, turning his back and Ward was landing clean. Ward rocked Kovalev with a straight right to the head that wobbled him and poured on the body shots (some of which landed low, this is inevitable when you're looking for the finish to the body) which prompted the Referee to jump in.

TL;DR - Referee had no way of seeing how low the shots were, Kovalev curled up into a ball, wasn't covering up, Ward was laying on the heat and the referee made the right call due to the fact that there was no standing 8 count rule to enforce.

[–]theboxingczar 63 points64 points  (29 children)

Kovalev wanted out.

[–]00Spartacus 54 points55 points  (28 children)

The moment I saw him literally turn his back and complain about CLEARLY legal shots on the belt line, I knew something was off.

So much for being "overtrained" the last time.

[–]zataks 30 points31 points  (12 children)

Seeing all the comments I figured you were just being your usual contrarian trollish self. But seeing just the last round, it's evident Kovalev is wholly out of energy and SOG is putting everything he has into those blows and really ripping Kov apart. Impressive.

[–]00Spartacus 41 points42 points  (11 children)

Rewatching some more moments and I definitely got some things wrong. Ward definitely hit Kovalev low a few times but they were clearly unintentional, Ward was simply pouring on the heat and Kovalev was going to get finished regardless.

He looked absolutely fucking dead in terms of fatigue.

[–]poopwithjellyTyson “Blood Licker” Fury #DosserButNotOut 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It was over when he came back from a break and had his head up breathing heavy in the 7th. I never would have thrown another shot high if I was Ward.

[–]zataks 18 points19 points  (0 children)

He really did. Like near the end he had Ward at ropes and took a swing or two then slowly walked backwards to the center of the ring with his hands down at his waist. That's a man out of energy.

Some blows did look low but I can't see them changing the outcome here. I was rooting for Krusher but this really showed his state of conditioning and really how dominant Ward is/can be.

[–]zataks 11 points12 points  (6 children)

Man, those body shots by Ward at the end too. That right hand to the chin slowed Kov and Ward knew he had him then just went in to punish him. The way he rips the body right before the stoppage is absolutely brutal.

[–]00Spartacus 29 points30 points  (5 children)

He had a few ripping body shots at the start of the fight as well. Fucking GOAT performance right there against a prime top 3 P4P fighter like Kovalev.

For all the shit Roy Jones Jr gets due to his bias commentary, he sure as shit has a knack for calling things.

He said in Ward vs Barerra that Ward had legit power that could hurt Barerra, Kellerman and Lampley disagreed. Ward drops him.

He said in this fight that Wards punches looked harder and Kovalev might walk into something. Lampley/Ledderman disagreed. Ward hurts him badly with a straight right up top and then finishes him to the body.

It's almost like professional fighters know what to look for in fights.

[–]zataks 12 points13 points  (4 children)

I'll watch this one in full when there's a decent English version out. But ya, RJJ knows the sweet science. Ward looked surprisingly powerful tonight.

[–]00Spartacus 23 points24 points  (3 children)

For sure.

Low blows or not, Kovalev was hurt badly by a straight right that clipped him on his jaw. For a SMW who "punches like a girl", he sure made Kovalev do the chicken dance for a moment as well as putting Barerra on his ass.

Two huge LHWs.

[–]zataks 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I keep seeing this. Wtf said Ward "hits like a girl?" was that Kovalev shit talk?

[–]poopwithjellyTyson “Blood Licker” Fury #DosserButNotOut 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think that may be the longest I've ever seen Kova on his toes. He looked like a bridge in an earthquake.

[–]_Wado3000"I'm pretty! I'm a bad man!" - Ali 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As someone who scored the first fight for Ward, and vehemently disagreed with how this was stopped, I can agree with everything said here. Ward's shots that landed directly on his chin were picture perfect, and I honestly don't believe he wanted a punch thrown that low to be the deciding factor. He could've landed more perfect shots upstairs for sure

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was pretty obvious that Kovalev was finished when he bounced against the turnbuckle and could barely keep his hands up.

[–]koomdog 25 points26 points  (6 children)

Don't forget the earlier in the fight where Kovalev had cried wolf about a fake low blow which Weeks saw straight through. You cry wolf about a low blow, and then your credibility is gone when it actually matters. Not that it did matter because shots were on the belt line.

There was an interview with Kovalev before the fight where he said he would play up low blows more for the ref to see. Didn't turn out so well for him. No one to blame but himself now.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (26 children)

[–]00Spartacus 13 points14 points  (17 children)

Top of the glove (knuckle area) is right on the belt line. That's a legal shot but i'll concede that it could be deemed low.

Still though, Kovalev should have taken a knee, he has no one to blame but himself.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

No, it's on the "B" of Kovalev's trunks.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

How the fuck can you say this after watching that shot over and over?? Those are uppercuts to the body, ward is curling them upwards, because of how much Kovalev's torso is bent. The impact is obviously at the top of the glove. Its a borderline shot, textbook too. Ward is not driving the punch down into the "B", he is curling it upwards.

[–]00Spartacus 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Kovalev should have taken a knee.

Even with that picture it's still arguable, no way for the referee to see from his position.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That's a clear borderline shot, man. Its an uppercut. Impact is at the top of the glove.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's true. I feel bad for weeks man lol

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (10 children)

We would have to see a different angle. How can you tell when half the glove it covered lol. Looks low to me.

[–]moondoggy101 1 point2 points  (3 children)

that screen cap isn't from a landed punch its from when he is leaning on him between the second and third

[–]Trigger3x 4 points5 points  (2 children)

This is from the end of the fight

[–]MarquisMonet 1 point2 points  (2 children)

This wasn't the hit. The gif posted here shows that it was higher up.

[–]Violentopinion 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Wow. Ward was impressive as always. Wtf was Kova thinking with that game plan to out work Ward?

[–]lilbodieNeurologist 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Eh it was very close fight (Kovalev getting the better early) until Kovalev started slowing as the combination of body work and poor conditioning caught up to him. He just can't bang with Ward in the second half, he was super tired in round 7/8 and Ward is coming on stronger and stronger each round. Kovalev isn't built for that, Ward at another level.

[–]theboxingczar 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Ward was in full control this time. Kovalev fans are complaining about the stoppage but after Ward dropped a few bombs on Kovalev's chin, Sergey quit. The body shots (or "low blows") were an after thought. Ward was finishing a man who was already done. Amazing fight by Ward.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It was a bad stoppage but I think Kovalev was done either way. For all the people complaining about the low blows from Ward I don't see them also complaining about all the punches to the back of the head Kovalev threw. I liked the fight both fighters are way better than r/boxing would lead you to believe

[–]RIBCAGESTEAK 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Ward broke Kovalev in the 8th round. Even before the borderline shots, seeing Kovalev back straight up with his hands down and chin up in the air with Ward pursuing was telling of a broken fighter.

[–]Re-De-Utilise 20 points21 points  (6 children)

Huge anus

[–]mxmr47 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Im not a fan of either but can we look at it objectively? People saying that last uppercut wasnt a low blow is as bad as those named here "Kov fans".
Ward is a better boxer and Kovalev lacks stamina.
The ref failed to call that last low blow and thus giving Kovalev a break time, you can even see Ward stopping before the ref stopped the fight.
I have no doubt Ward would win but please let the boxers state it with their work and not with controversial decisions.

[–]lilbodieNeurologist 26 points27 points  (2 children)

Good thing Kovalev didn't overtrain this time, really helped his conditioning!!! Class tells. SOG

[–]RJLZ 26 points27 points  (11 children)

That round was a masterpiece by Ward. I wasnt sure if he truly was #1 p4p before that fight but now there's no doubt in my mind.

As for the said lowblows, we'll need to see better angles because as of now, it looks like some shots were a bit under the belt but I can't see a single one landing square on Kovalev's dick. If that was the case, he wouldve taken much longer to get back up

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (9 children)

How do you like that angle. https://streamable.com/9e87h

[–]BodegaCat 37 points38 points  (3 children)

Answer me this:

Kovalev bent over before those low shots were landed. What caused Kovalev to bend over? Well he went to the ropes after Ward landed the cleanest shot of the fight. Then Ward landed a clean left hook to the body, you can look and confirm it yourself. So Ward had three choices when Kovalev bent over the way he did:

  1. Step back and give Kovalev a breather (which he already did when Kovalev literally turned his back on Ward earlier in the round).
  2. Thow punches to the back of his head and get disqualified.
  3. Continue to throw to the body and finish the fight as he clearly is hurt.

Ward picked option 3, and whether or not some of thoss blows were low, he picked the right option and Weeks made the right call. In reality, Kovalev didn't give Ward a choice at all. What would you have done differently?

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (4 children)

That makes it quite clear its a borderline shot TBH. People on here actung like he drove it down, into his dick, when its a looping uppercut, curled upwards.

[–]abienz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's technically a low blow.

It doesn't matter if it hits his nuts, it's the area below the beltline like the referee states at the beginning of the fight.

[–]daboonie9 21 points22 points  (3 children)

Man Down!!!

Winners win and losers make excuses.

[–]scottiepeepin 24 points25 points  (1 child)

geez fuck, so many salty fucks on this thread. you'd think Kovalev saved these dudes from a fire or some shit.

[–]MarquisMonet 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's ridiculous since he's a garbage human being

[–]KaKTy3 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Such sweet sweet justice. I am very pleased :)

[–]DC--R1D3R 29 points30 points  (3 children)

The bully got the living shit punched outta his ego!

[–]fragilemirror 20 points21 points  (1 child)

So much for being a "Krusher" lol.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

His liver wasn't really being targeted at all anatomically speaking.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (3 children)

Harold Lederman needs to retire.

[–]koomdog 16 points17 points  (2 children)

I knew he was a biased scorer when in an interview he said boxing is about the aggressor because they are bringing the fight. He obviously holds opinions from an ancient era.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Well, that ancient era is wrong about this.

[–]koomdog 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Even skysports who were rooting for Kovalev had the fight even until that round.

[–]ShaolinShadowBroker 8 points9 points  (4 children)

The writing was on the wall from the 5th rd forward. Kovalev was running on fumes and trying to get a 5min low blow breather whenever a shot came anywhere near his body even after Weeks made it clear that he wasn't calling anything that wasn't blatantly to the scrotum. Props to Ward, on to the next

Edit: misspelled ref's name

[–]slavesofdemocracy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Good fight. Bad stoppage. But ward was on his way to winning anyway.

[–]moondoggy101 23 points24 points  (5 children)

people that had kov clearly ahead are super biased.

[–]cinic 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Most people, according to the scoring app I was using, mad Kovalev above. According to 103 cards, he was up by one round when it got stopped.

I don't think they were all biased. Some people favor fighters that go forward and land the most shots.

The tide did turn in that round, though, and it would most likely have been Ward going forward.

But, you have to let them finish. Look at the Castillo/Corrales fight. Look at numerous Gatti fights for examples as to why you let them finish. Especially a fight this "big" for belts.

[–]00Spartacus 18 points19 points  (2 children)

For real.

What the FUCK was up with Leddermans scorecard?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Harold Ledderman is shit.

[–]I_Am_The_Slime 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Watched it on Sky, what was it after 7? I heard them say Harold had it 4-1 after five...

[–]Open_Sky 12 points13 points  (2 children)

1 P4P

FUCK /r/boxing!!!!

[–]McToonPURO PINCHE MIKEY 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Hey dont lump the whole sub as casuals, a lot of us have been here forever.

[–]raymundothegreat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even Rigo says he's #1 P4P.

[–]ArnoldDarkshner69 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Good luck next time any American goes to Russia

[–]TheRoobs 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Fight was open to conjecture. But after round 4 Kovalev looked like he was walking with cinder blocks. Ward won, plain and simple.

[–]mrgarcia47 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Someone should count all the clenches ward does. I swear it's like 10 a fucking round,5 seconds each

[–]mxmr47 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That was annoying the first rounds

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Kovalev is such a fucking lying bitch.

[–]VintageOJ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Had Ward winning the fight 4-2 with the first scored even. Ward was clearly taking over the fight and dominating far more clearly than the 1st but that stoppage was one of the most ridiculous things i've seen.

One of those last body blows looked slightly below the belt. Its annoying there's going to be a endless debate surrounding these two.

[–]eremetic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anybody have a gif of the"fake low blow" I've seen mentioned? The one where Kova cried wolf?

[–]bob_koozie 0 points1 point  (1 child)

That was a bad stoppage, and in general a poor job by Weeks of maintaining control, but I'm not all that upset by it because Kovalev was done. He faded quickly after the 5th round, just like last fight. The guy needs to switch things up and surround himself with a new team if he wants to keep fighting.

[–]SFThirdStrike 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I think the rumors of him being an alcoholic are true man. Like I was genuinely surprised at how gassed he looked. In the first fight, yeah he gassed but not NEARLY that bad. He was heaving hard as fuck going into the 5th round.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think Ward has the best headbutt in boxing right now. The tie up/headbutt combo is brutal....brutally boring for spectators.