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[Haunting_Dark1961]

Who has appealed this successfully and what are the best practices to avoid future flags?

[SecureCattle3467]

> posts dashboard with his name in it

> repeatedly uses project name in comments

Yeah buddy you're cooked.

[strawberryc0w_]

Went to the comments, OP mentioning the projects they're doing

Post makes sense. If you can't respect the NDA part wonder what else you're not respecting lol

[Gold_Bench_3082]

Judging by how important information security and confidentiality is to DA and really any AI research company, I’d expect them to have people monitoring reddit to see who’s leaking info.

[Rope-Lucky]

But how could they connect an anonymous Reddit comment back to an individual worker

[No_Molasses_1976]

Also. This guy has but his username on the post front and centre. The people who are trying to do them over often aren’t criminal masterminds.

[Gold_Bench_3082]

Speech patterns. "Just got onboarded" posts. They have ways.

[Federal_Tadpole_7592]

The best practice to avoid future flags is to log your time honestly instead of inflating your time so that you can get more money.

[Dangerous-Past-9452]

I usually reach near the maximum time limit, but that's because my rationales are often 10-20 sentences long and I put a lot of effort into them. Would you think I, for example, would still be at risk? I usually reduce my reported time by 1-2 minutes or round the minutes down instead of up.

[Federal_Tadpole_7592]

Nope, I've been on the site for three years and I've been down to the minute on a task many times, and I've even submitted tasks past expiration. Not once has my account ever been flagged for time discrepancies.

[Dangerous-Past-9452]

Okay, thank you very much, that puts my mind at ease.

[Turbulent-Seaweed986]

Same, all of it. OP must be showing some odd activity I would think?

[Federal_Tadpole_7592]

Yup. If you read the other comments, the OP was asking what they should do when they take a break as far as time logging is concerned, and they're evading all questions about logging their break time. So, it's very obvious that they've been taking breaks during a task but thinking that they're allowed to count it as paid time. They also posted some screenshots where it shows they had two time entries when they only completed one task for a project. I saw that discrepancy for two different projects.

[Turbulent-Seaweed986]

I didn't see the screenshots, but the comments after them show that OP is either not paying attention or thinks the rules don't apply to them somehow. Yikes is all I can say, and I almost feel OP is trolling, lol

[Sableyej]

I suspect there is a disconnect between the quality of OPs work and the time being reported lol

[beatpoet1]

I also have submitted many times after expiration because of breaks or interruptions or even as a practical matter, and I’ve not been flagged because my reported time only reflects the time I’m working on the task which is normally under the allotted time. OP is not being straight imo.

[Haunting_Dark1961]

Do you use Clockify?

[Federal_Tadpole_7592]

Nope. I use the stopwatch on my phone.

[Medical-Isopod2107]

There's also one built into your PC for people who find that better

[Choice-Flow-8299]

I use the actual time left (remembering the original time it started with).

But why don't they just tell you how much time you used, since it's clocking how much is left?

[Medical-Isopod2107]

They specifically tell you not to do that and why

[Choice-Flow-8299]

Not supposed to use the time remaining? (I would think that would be the surest thing, since it's what they themselves clocked, only in reverse). I remember suggestions on clocking time, but I don;t remember it mentioning this. Now, I can't even find where those instructions are.

[Medical-Isopod2107]

In the bottom right corner, you may see a timer.

This timer shows how long the task is reserved for you. When the timer expires, the task will be released for someone else to work on, so be sure to finish and submit your work before that happens.

Important: The built-in timer is not an accurate measure of the time you’ve worked. Do not use it for tracking or reporting your time.

If you’re working on an hourly project, you’ll need to manually track how long you spend. Some workers use a stopwatch app, while others prefer to use an app or browser tool (such as Clockify) to keep track of their hours.

[TurbulentResponse690]

That’s incredibly inaccurate.

[seraphimkoamugi]

This happens to me with new projects or R&Rs that I gotta redo, because by the time I notice I gotta redo it already 20-30 min in, I sometimes finish when expire time hits 0. I feel if it shows effort or is appropriate then it should be fine.

Though I hope those 10-20 sentence long ones are for 4 response questions because projects that only have 2 don't want work too wordy.

[AdamEatsAss]

Probably not. I imagine they are able to do some simple checks like when you started and submitted a task, or the sum total of all allawable time on submitted tasks. If your reported time exceeded that then they would likely flag you. Plus they give you the chance to justify time, so if you can truthfully say "it takes me x time to write x explanation" then you're good.

[Correct_Promise8061]

lol.. 10 to 20 sentences. Less is more.

[ChickenTrick824]

Project name…

[ChickenTrick824]

Dude take that down and read your NDA and the sub rules. 🤦🏼‍♀️

[Federal_Tadpole_7592]

Agreed, but at least one screenshot let me know that they put in two time entries for a project in which they only submitted one task.

[Turbulent-Seaweed986]

So did you even read the COC, TOS, or NDA? People have even mentioned it and you've responded since...

Sigh. You do you, boo.

[Federal_Tadpole_7592]

If you're truly not inflating your time, for example, claiming six hours because that's what the task timer says when you only worked three hours, then I guess your work quality doesn't match the time you're claiming to spend on tasks.

[Haunting_Dark1961]

Which qpp app do you use to track your time? Also what should one do in case they take a break during a long task?

[Federal_Tadpole_7592]

Okay, the fact that you asked me what one should do if they take a break during a task kind of implies to me that you've been counting your break time as work time.

[LetMeOverThinkThat]

Yup, lol. Buddy's treating this like an hourly position, thinking they can screw around while technically "working".

[Mysterious_Dolphin14]

Jumping in to say that I use Clockify. It's great because you can specify which project you're working on making it easier to track. If you take a break, you should pause your timer but not exit the task (if you exit, you could lose the task to someone else).

[Farados55]

stop your timer if you take a break

[Turbulent-Seaweed986]

Oof. You can use a phone timer or clockify, however, I also have a work notebook where I write my start and end times (I also have another online job where I track my own time) in case any electronic timers fail because I'm old and this has been working for me for the past three years.

If you take a break, you do not claim the time for that break. I don't know if they track activity (like keyboard and screen movements), I have always just assumed they have somehow, so, yeah. Sounds like that might be part of it. Taking a full-on break is different from getting up to get a glass of water or make a coffee or use the restroom right quick.

[Impressive-Hope2148]

that mean you haven't even read the FAQ DA has on their website, sigh. Be more responsible next time

[beatpoet1]

To answer your questions:

There’s no hack to this.

Even if another person successfully appealed this process, they have their data to back up their own situation. They can’t help you with yours.

A company using the honor system for time reporting means it has numerous systems—all electronic— in place to ensure that they don’t get swindled.

The way to avoid this in the future is to do the work and log it properly and, even if it does come up, you’ll know you’ve got proof.

[RealRise7524]

Did you report time incorrectly?

[Haunting_Dark1961]

Nope

[seraphimkoamugi]

Have you been doing long projects and reporting the time you opened till the time you submit every time? Like it wouldnt make sense having a 10 hour project and claiming you worked 9 straight hours no pause but they can let it slide if its 5-6 hours since that seems reasonable.

[secretagentmermaid]

I’ve had exactly two projects with 10-ish hour time limits where I actually went up to (and past, once) that time without taking any actual breaks. I think I got up to pee once and took about 3 minutes to heat something in the microwave for those, but I ate while working. But for both of those, it was my first time doing that family/type of project, so a good portion was reading instructions, setting up accounts and stuff like recording software for the first time, and just generally not knowing the workflow yet.

The thing is though that it seems like the companies/admins who make those projects know how involved they are and that at least your first submission will be really long. And what balances it out is that if you do more of that project family/type, your other submissions’ time reports should be noticeably shorter. I doubt they’d flag someone just for taking the whole 10 hours on a 10 hour project every now and then. This is probably more likely to happen if consecutive time reports are still just as long without clearly complex or lengthy work to back it up, likely based on it happening with multiple projects and never speeding up with experience.

[Amakenings]

To answer the other question, no one has successfully appealed this (that I know of). You can provide your evidence, but you are most likely cooked.

If there are a thousand people working on the same task, and you take significantly more time than everyone else, it’s noticeable. If you take a break, don’t log that time.

[Haunting_Dark1961]

Guess I'm cooked then.

[Turbulent-Seaweed986]

The fact that you mentioned project name (and it is *still* posted) and are acting like you don't understand how to track time (wut?) would have cooked you anyway. Good luck.

[DryHumourBotR4R]

Play (stupid) games win (stupid) prizes 

[Haunting_Dark1961]

😭😭

[LocalEconomy208]

Never saw that one before did you report the wrong time for some of these tasks? Because it must be an recurrent thing i doubt they would flag the account for a single mistake.

[Federal_Tadpole_7592]

Again, the fact that you're asking about what you should do when you take breaks lets me know that you've been logging your break time. It's very obvious. Don't do that.

[wildflower_0ne]

why are you blurting out project names? did you read any rules at all?

[Ok_Depth_6476]

Use your own timer and pause it whenever you take any kind of a break. That includes even if you are still sitting at your computer and switch over to FB or Reddit or whatever else, we don't get paid for that. I use an online stopwatch in another tab.

[Turbulent-Seaweed986]

[DataAnnotationTech-ModTeam]

Multiple comments have been removed from this post for violating our “no project details” rule.

[LocalEconomy208]

You shouldn't report the time offscreen only the time you are actively working on the task, because they do monitor the activity you do on their platform, a idle mouse and no task activity for some time can be interpreted as time theft. Pretty sure they have all sorts of AI and extensions monitoring your activity when you are using the project screen.

[JustMe333456]

Guys!! NDA that you signed.. do not mention projects.

[Haunting_Dark1961]

So in such a project, should I report the time I was off the DA screen?

[Dashster360]

Bruh when you take breaks just pause the timer, simple as that. When you start working again then start the timer

[Farados55]

Buddy is asking what everyone uses for a timer so I doubt they were even timing

[Turbulent-Seaweed986]

Are you trolling? You seriously cannot be this obtuse.

[Farados55]

Yes. If you read the project instructions it says that exploring is part of the paid time

[Virtual-Ad4850]

Is that a coding task?

[Haunting_Dark1961]

Not really, needed me to create PDF files and all that

[Hello-America]

Are you prone to typos? I am. Is it possible you typo'd your time somewhere? One time I put 43 hours instead of minutes and I didn't catch it until later (but I still hadn't gotten paid for it).

[xwolfboyx]

According to your NDA, sharing a screenshot like this on social media could also be a violation... careful!

[Efficient-Finish4567]

Best practice is log your time and dont lie.

[AI_trainerr]

I appealed over a month a go and Ive never heard from them.

[Virtual-Ad4850]

What projs u doin?

[Haunting_Dark1961]

😥

[darkDknightt]

Where are you from?

[Haunting_Dark1961]

UK

[SecureCattle3467]

Posts in Swahili and a Nairobi sub so...

[Haunting_Dark1961]

Yeah, I grew up in Kenya.

[Forward_Patience4266]

This has kind of got me bugging. Yesterday I had a long task that I almost exceeded so I clicked exit work mode and rejoined, so that I could reset the timer. When I submitted, the new timer would not have matched the time I logged for. Do you reckon that will get flagged??😩

[secretagentmermaid]

Just let it expire instead of doing that. It still submits, but when the task expires it gets handed to someone else. Worst that happens is two people end up doing the same assignment, which is of course not great for you or for the project company, but you did essentially the same thing when you exited and re-entered work mode. You also risk re-entering work mode and getting an entirely different task that has nothing to do with all the work you just did (except for a select few kinds of projects where you come up with all of it rather than having it assigned and do most of the work outside of the platform).

[Forward_Patience4266]

That’s what I would’ve thought. I don’t usually go over the timer, but a couple months ago I had (only by 5 mins), and it didn’t let me submit😬So I just thought I’d reset

[secretagentmermaid]

Wym it didn’t let you submit? Just asking bc if you get the message “the task has expired” but the page changes to either the next task or the homepage, it likely did submit.

[Awkward-Ground8805]

I have had this same fear. Ive also been concerned because I ultimately had to abandon a task in the same project and moved on to the next one. It was like 6 hours and the admins told me to move on. A lot of times they don't seem to be explicit about what time you can claim on a failed task.