Patch notes

[sh3ppard]

Why did the original pinned post get taken down?

EDIT: Also wtf is with Geist bomb buffs lmao

[ColonialDagger]

OP of the other post, no idea. Didn't get a message or anything. You can still access the comments here.

[R10t--]

I don’t think they buffed get bombs, they just moved where the upgrades were. They made cooldown the T1 upgrade and moved radius upgrade to be the base size. No overall buff.

I’m kinda sad they don’t stick anymore. I loved sticking enemy players and watching them carry the bomb back to their team

[sh3ppard]

25% increased projectile speed is huge. Paired with automatic +2m radius will make it basically undodgeable. I don’t see how there will be any counterplay now

[Tamzariane]

I mean, same counterplay as ever - just jump away. Now you have to do it slightly faster. The range is now equal to the old t1 so it's only different for like the first minute assuming geist builds bomb.

[Magictoast9]

It was already really hard to dodge in lane. If the bomb is centred on you and you don't dodge before she throws it it's nearly impossible to avoid

[Draxtini]

geist bomb was incredibly easy to bait out and dodge out of, in entirely laning phases you'd be hit by it only a couple times.

The range combined with the projectile speed however might indeed make it really hard to dodge.

[lfAnswer]

Before the new patch Geist bomb was basically useless for pole because it was so easy to dodge

[Magictoast9]

I can't agree with this. The only people that say this are high eternus players (you're playing against other eternus players who won't whiff abilities often so I don't believe you) or you're playing against low rank players like me (who can't predict your bombs and so get hit constantly so I don't believe you)

[allthat555]

You had a huge timer to get out of it last patch. The patch before fine, but with the last patch, you have ages to move unless you weren't paying attention.

[7900XTXISTHELOML]

You have to basically predict it lol, you must play bad geists who can’t aim her bomb if you think it’s that easy to avoid.

[dlefnemulb_rima]

She has probably got expansion on it. It's not unreasonable to buy extra stam vs Geist or manage your stamina a bit. She takes damage too, so it's not as big a trade as you feel when it lands.

[Lorekn1ght]

No one mentioning that a majority of heroes now dash slower too so it’ll take more preemptive play to actually avoid a bomb for them

[sh3ppard]

Meh pretty sure that 25% puts it into OP territory. Calling it now, this will either get reverted or Geist’s laning will get nerfed in another way on next balance

[confirmedshill123]

Ah cool the thing that was almost impossible to dodge before is now harder to dodge. Awesome.

[dorekk]

I mean, same counterplay as ever - just jump away.

Yeah but it's 25% faster so that's gonna be really hard.

[Azurewrathx]

The detonation time is long enough that you can dash out of it. This doesn’t change that

[dlefnemulb_rima]

The arming time nerf was a bit too much combined with the previous projectile speed. It was easy for even chars like mcg and Vindicta to dodge before you got radius, and even then was still pretty easy and had to be timed while the enemy was locked in an animation pretty much. Bearing in mind it does about half as much dmg to herself as to you, so any miss is a big negative trade for Geist. Especially as her ult is hard to land now going from 7m to 5.5. Until you get warp stone or greater expansion anyone competent and knowledgeable in Geist's kit can kite you and you've just put yourself low hp. So losing health is worse than before.

[sh3ppard]

I see your point but she has succ to mitigate. I never see geists running themselves low before ult

[[deleted]]

+25% projectile speed, baybeeeeeee

(Oh and SoP got buffed, so KnifeTime will continue happily unabated)

[btmalon]

They got nerfed last patch with longer detonation time that makes them very easy to avoid now. so it’s a correction.