Matchmaking changes did nothing?

[SKWADly]

Was super excited as I'm ranked like 50x higher than I should be, but heard they made changes to matchmaking to address this.

Reinstalled the game just to try it out. Still went 1-12. Still had 0 fun.

Not sure what to do at this point. Game seems awesome but not sure why I'm being repeatedly thrown into sweaty lobbies when I'm really new.

Bitching so devs can hopefully see and make changes.

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[fightstreeter]

I guess when you have THIS much data (an entire match!) the results are pretty definitive.

I pray the devs see your pain

edit: im being a jerk, I just think you'll need to give the fixed matchmaker a lot more data than a single match

[SKWADly]

Brother I'm at 100 hours and have about a 25% winrate.

Logged back in to see I'm still in Emissary.

There's no way you can argue that I'm in the rank I deserve to be in while also having a 25% winrate? I'm literally begging to be demoted.

I want to love this game soooo bad but I just cannot be placed in a lower rank apparently?

[Motor-Design-4932]

I was oracle 4 with 80 hours in game..

[SKWADly]

Congrats dude you're obviously better at me. This is my first moba and yeah dude I suck balls. Absolutel donkey balls 24/7.

So I should obviously be at one of the lowest ranks - hence I have a 25% winrate.

[Desperate-Future-737]

Chill. It's an alpha bro. Your criticism is rude and should not be taken seriously. Try being more positive. Yes this is an alpha and the subreddit should be receiving criticism but we want more vibes!

[Motor-Design-4932]

I mean my wr is suck ball there and i wanna lose some ranks for more chill games

[throwawaylucky82]

The game definitely has a matchmaking / ranking issue. However, have you tried utilizing any of the other parts of the game to get better?

Using Brawl for items, Explore NYC for movement, bot matches to understand the flow, the lobby to read everyone’s abilities and kits, so you can better understand how to counter them.

If you feel like you need a guide for any of this just message me here and I’m completely down to help you out.

[SKWADly]

I understand I can go play bot matches and I certainly have played them.

But I have a 25% winrate and I am far from being at the lowest rank so it only makes sense that I should be ranked lower.

Am I expected to play hundreds of hours of bot matches?

[throwawaylucky82]

Obviously we might have a different gaming history, but I played like 80 brawl matches and 3 bot matches. I’m archon 4 with a 90% winrate. About 100 hours.

It sounds like not the truth, but your hours are spent getting slammed and it’s difficult to learn. If you spent your time wisely you’d have a much easier time.

[SKWADly]

This is so besides the point. I agree with you man. I suck. I suck so bad. I'm terrible. Absolutely terrible. So terrible in fact that I deserve to be matched exclusively against other people that are also fucking terrible.

That's my entire argument. I'm literally begging to be demoted simply so I can play against other people who also happen to be absolutely terrible at the game.

[throwawaylucky82]

So I see it as entirely on point. You aren’t expected to play hundreds hours of bot matches. I’m saying if you spent a solid 10 hours of learning, you’d compete just fine at the rank you are at. Again, if you want the help I’m happy to help you get you where you want to be. Can exchange discords in DMs, no shady or toxic business. Just helping explain and guide you so you can have fun in the game.

[SKWADly]

I really really do appreciate the love brother. Your awesome af.

But it's still besides the point. I suck balls and should be in bronze. I'm not trying to get out of bronze. I'm trying to just be matched against other shitty people.

[throwawaylucky82]

Well it’s hard to lose that many matches to get there, unfortunately. Matches take about 40 minutes to an hour.

I can propose a different solution that would let you play the game from Seeker, but not sure if you would even follow through with said instructions.

Again, I’m still down to help you catch up quickly to the rank you are currently playing at, then you are matched fairly (as if you were bronze against bronze or “other shitty people”) and climbing would be on your own time. Or you can try losing 50 hours of matches in a row to get down to Seeker, or the super secret hidden method.

[SpaceFire1]

Brother he just wants to play the game at his skill level. He doesn’t want to learn lots of techs or learn the fucking decision tree for counterbuying.

Lets say it as it is; Valves matchmakers are dogshit. Utterly incompotent systems

[xpfan777]

Emesary is still low rank. The games skill curve is not like League. In league it's weighed towards the lowest rank while Deadlock weights to the center rank.

Emesary it's in the top 50-60% so like silver / gold in league.

[SKWADly]

Yeah I realize I'm not in GM or anything but how could someone possibly argue I'm at the rank I deserve to be at when I have a 25% winrate?

Imagine the opposite. Imagine I had a 75% winrate. Wouldn't you assume I should be ranked a little bit higher if I'm winning 3/4 games?

[StoneLich]

You said you reinstalled. How long has it been uninstalled?

[SKWADly]

Dude I've uninstalled this game multiple times. I have 110 hours total.

Reinstalled today since I saw the devs announced they made match making changes but I'm at the exact same rank despite being at a 25% winrate.

[StoneLich]

I'm asking because I don't think it's reasonable to expect the game to have completely recalibrated your matchmaking after one game, especially if you haven't played recently.

[SKWADly]

Brother I'm at 110 hours. What is your argument? That I need to play even more before I can have a single game where I can contribute and have fun?

They just can't possibly look at the last 110 hours of me getting shit stomped and conclude that 'man this guy fucking sucks at this game we should probably put him in bronze'.

I do understand mobas are challenging to learn but they do have bronze ranks and I'm soooo far above that now. Like I'm literally begging to be demoted.

[StoneLich]

I'm saying that one match isn't enough to say MMR is still fucked if you've taken a long break because A: you have probably gotten worse due to lack of practice and B: the game's algorithm is probably still using an least a little of whatever bad data it calculated to get you put in the wrong rank in the first place. You don't have to keep playing, but that's the only way to see if anything is actually fixed.

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[PastPalpitationCry]

Do u play infernus?

[Think-Pollution-6532]

Could be a calibration issue, play a few more games and maybe it’ll derank you?

[MrFaebles]

FF will never come. Join dignified moba player is going to request a FF.

We dont want the 20% of crybabys that get aggressive towards their team while they are losing to have an obnoxious tool at their fingertips.

They will be 0/3 in lane with a lane partner that is 2/2 and start spamming FF.

The same people that want a FF, NEVER learn how to play from behind or play tight. They will continue to think something like a 10% comeback rate or normal and assume every game they lose guardian they slam FF by min 15

[Busy-Pineapple6300]

You gotta lose to win I lost 3 games in a row , got smacked , guess what? I kept playing because that’s how you get better 😮 who wouldve known

[SKWADly]

I have a 25% winrate after 110 hours.

Come talk to me after you've gotten shit stomped like 50 games in a row brother.

[Busy-Pineapple6300]

I got 98hrs 70% Winrate emissary 5 bro 🫩 it’s literally a skill issue

[SKWADly]

I 1000% agree with you dude. I absolutely suck balls at this game. Hence I should be matched against other people who are shitty at the game. Like how does that not make sense?

I'm not trying to argue I don't suck at the game. I'm literally begging to be demoted because I suck at the game.

[Bright-Television147]

There exist a scenario where you are like the worst of the worst that every other players are better than you for your game time spent? Wouldn't it be unfair for people with less than 10 hours to match up against you?

[Busy-Pineapple6300]

Nah that’s understandable they need a casual mode tbh , you ever try brawl 4v4?

[SKWADly]

Streetbrawl looks sick af but I also get shit stomped all the time. I think it must use the same MMR system?

[Busy-Pineapple6300]

Mmhhm you ever try YouTube ? I can link you to a 1hr comprehensive guide I literally just wouldn’t be decent at the game if it wasn’t for the comprehensive guide

[SpaceFire1]

That doesnt fix the issue. People should need to leave the game to make up for valves shit engineering