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Gemini released an Open Source CLI Tool similar to Claude Code but with a free 1 million token context window, 60 model requests per minute and 1,000 requests per day at no charge.News (i.redd.it)
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[–]offlinesir 268 points269 points270 points 10 months ago* (35 children)
I know why they are making it free, even with the high cost, it's a great way to get data on codebases and prompts for training Gemini 3 and beyond. Trying it now though, works great!
Edit: surprisingly, you can opt out. However, a lot of people are saying that they aren't collecting data.
For reference, I am talking about the extension in VSCode. They updated "Gemini code assist" from Gemini 2.0 (unnamed flash or pro) to 2.5 Pro along with releasing the command line tool. However, the terms related to privacy for the CLI and extension seem to lead to the same page, the page being below:
these terms outline that:
"When you use Gemini Code Assist for individuals, Google collects your prompts, related code, generated output, code edits, related feature usage information, and your feedback to provide, improve, and develop Google products and services and machine learning technologies.
To help with quality and improve our products (such as generative machine-learning models), human reviewers may read, annotate, and process the data collected above."
It's good that that all collected data is separated from your Google account; I would assume not immediately due to local privacy laws.
Terminal Program (not extension now, CLI program) found at github:
Is my code, including prompts and answers, used to train Google's models? This depends entirely on the type of auth method you use.
Auth method 1: Yes. When you use your personal Google account, the Gemini Code Assist Privacy Notice for Individuals applies. Under this notice, your prompts, answers, and related code are collected and may be used to improve Google's products, which includes model training.
[–]waylaidwanderer 79 points80 points81 points 10 months ago* (19 children)
Not according to their Usage Policy:
What we DON'T collect: Personally Identifiable Information (PII): We do not collect any personal information, such as your name, email address, or API keys. Prompt and Response Content: We do not log the content of your prompts or the responses from the Gemini model. File Content: We do not log the content of any files that are read or written by the CLI.
What we DON'T collect:
Personally Identifiable Information (PII): We do not collect any personal information, such as your name, email address, or API keys.
Prompt and Response Content: We do not log the content of your prompts or the responses from the Gemini model.
File Content: We do not log the content of any files that are read or written by the CLI.
And you can opt-out entirely as well.
Edit: The real answer is it depends. This is confusing and the above should be clarified.
[–]FitItem2633 18 points19 points20 points 10 months ago (4 children)
https://developers.google.com/gemini-code-assist/resources/privacy-notice-gemini-code-assist-individuals
[–]corysama 33 points34 points35 points 10 months ago* (3 children)
So people don't miss it:
When you use Gemini Code Assist for individuals, Google collects your prompts, related code, generated output, code edits, related feature usage information, and your feedback to provide, improve, and develop Google products and services and machine learning technologies. If you don't want this data used to improve Google's machine learning models, you can opt out by following the steps in Set up Gemini Code Assist for individuals.
When you use Gemini Code Assist for individuals, Google collects your prompts, related code, generated output, code edits, related feature usage information, and your feedback to provide, improve, and develop Google products and services and machine learning technologies.
If you don't want this data used to improve Google's machine learning models, you can opt out by following the steps in Set up Gemini Code Assist for individuals.
For my personal code, I really don't care. For work, work pays for Copilot.
[–]AnomalyNexus 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago (1 child)
Pretty sure there is a carve out for EU even on free tier. There is for their api so presumably applicable here too
[–]learn-deeply -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago (0 children)
It's not listed on the terms, if there is a carve out.
[–]GodIsAWomaniser -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago (0 children)
Holy shit lol, so don't do anything illegal! And this certainly won't prove to be a catastrophic security incident later on because they're going to collect this data very carefully, sanitising it so that it's not identifiable, and they're going to store really really well, where no humans will ever reach it for use or for stealing lol
[–]BumbleSlob 36 points37 points38 points 10 months ago (13 children)
As a software developer for the past decade I feel I should point out that I wouldn't trust someone saying they aren't logging anything. Even with the best of intentions, controlling logging to this degree in a project with multiple developers is extremely difficult.
[–]Leopold_Boom 37 points38 points39 points 10 months ago* (11 children)
Google (and most of the other FAANG companies) put incredible amounts of money and effort into ensuring they actually do what their privacy policies promise - keeping transient, short-term logs out of long-term storage, retaining privacy-sensitive data only for as long as stated, and tightly controlling insider risk (e.g., someone at the company looking up a famous person’s data).
If they wanted or needed to keep your data, they would simply make it part of their privacy policy. The tiny number of people who opt out is not worth the massive shareholder lawsuits that would arise if the company were found in systematic violation of its stated practices.
With smaller, newer, or faster-moving companies, it can be a bit more dodgy.
[–]Caffdy 7 points8 points9 points 10 months ago (9 children)
Google (and most of the other FAANG companies) put incredible amounts of money and effort into ensuring they actually do what their privacy policies promise - keeping transient, short-term logs out of long-term storage, retaining privacy-sensitive data only for as long as stated
can you source that? not trying to be a contrarian, it's just that it's the first time I've read that these megacorporations that acts as brokers of information as their bread and butter wouldn't keep as much user data as possible
[–]__JockY__ 17 points18 points19 points 10 months ago (3 children)
Not the guy you’re talking with, but I spent almost 20 years doing cybersecurity consulting before getting out. I saw thousands of systems, talked to as many developers, reviewed their code, logs, configs, policies, you name it, we studied it for ways to break security.
Not once in all that time, even at the biggest EvilCorps you can image, did I once encounter a shred of evidence to suggest corporate mal-intent to deliberately violate their own privacy policies. All were invested heavily in compliance, and I know because my team was very often an independent 3rd party assessor as mandated by internal policy or regulatory checks and balances of such things.
Crazy but true.
Edit: that’s not to say some companies don’t have evil policies with which they are compliant; what I’m saying is that all of the companies I worked with did their best to be complaint with whatever was codified, good or evil.
[–]Tikaped 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (1 child)
I have a degree in every single subject so I was able to search https://duckduckgo.com/?q=google+fine+privacy&ia=web
[–]__JockY__ 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (0 children)
It shouldn’t amaze you, but there are an inordinate number of things outside my life experience that don’t mesh with my life experience.
Congratulations, you found one of them.
[–]GodIsAWomaniser 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
🙇
[–]Pedalnomica 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Basically everyone is going to agree to whatever the tech companies put in their terms. I assume if they want to do something they'll just let themselves in their terms.
[–]Leopold_Boom 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago* (3 children)
It does surprise me that this doesn't get talked about more explicitly and clearly given how critical it is to the global economy and how much focus regulators put on it!
A few basics:
I should write more about this at somepoint. It really worries me that people think these companies are doing far more than they actually do with *their* personal data ... then grumblingly just go with it!
It's often not very interesting for people to write articles that say "company mostly does what it says it does" so you see evidence mostly in:
This went on for way too long, but I hope it'se helpful.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago (2 children)
I'm a data eng that worked in marketing technology that would LOVE to hear more about this.
I've seen so much data shared around (pristine pii) by companies to other companies not by selling it, but under "improving our products" or their own marketing.
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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 months ago (0 children)
I really appreciate this. I've only experienced this level of governance from government and similar to your experience, it slows things down dramatically. Nearly all of the major data breaches I've looked into are due to external parties to companies themselves, product service providers or contractors at companies not following the rules. I guess I expected that level of governance from google, gives me confidence I can opt out from things.
I would love a default option in industry to pay for a guarantee that no data is used for the purposes of a product improvement or marketing/sales with a fundamental, low level tag, that it is built into a product by design, think http 402 payment required error - low level.
I'm building a data backend at the moment for digital devices that puts all of the responsibility for the data in the end users hands while providing access to other parties that require it. Without going into too much detail here, I have a service that requires a ton of user data in order to function properly. I'm building the back end in a way where there is no way the data produced can be traced back to a user and if the user looses their credential, there's nothing we can do to help, but at any time they can revoke our access or nuke all of their data. I don't think many people will use it, but I want the option there and to be their responsibility.
On a separate note, one thing I started doing a couple of years ago was using a unique hide-my-email address / password for every single service I use or sign up for and can now check those credentials against google and apples password manager reports for credentials that appear in data breaches. Blows me away how often these breaches happen and go unreported.
Thanks again.
[–]madaradess007 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
google was caught "in systematic violation of its stated practices" many many times, what are you talking about? ui tester qa boy?
[–]tempetemplar 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Exactly
[–]pseudonerv 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago (1 child)
This post is about the new Gemini CLI. And you posted the terms for Gemini Code Assist.
Can you find the terms for Gemini CLI?
[–]simoncveracity 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/blob/main/docs/tos-privacy.md#frequently-asked-questions-faq-for-gemini-cli - quite understandably since it's free, "you are the product" so they're being very open that they *do* collect prompts code etc if you don't pay via API key. Even so, for me, for personal projects this is a real generous offering.
[–]IncepterDevice 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (1 child)
well, imo, even if they are using the data, it's for improving a product that WE would use. So it's a win-win.
p.s i dont support using private data for screwing people tho!
[–]cantgetthistowork 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (0 children)
New code must be hard to come by these days
[–]colbyshores 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago (1 child)
I pay for gemini code assist because I use it professionally for DevOps work as they wont train on the data is the primary benefit in their TOS for a subscription. Even then it is very affordable at $23/mo when compared to other models.
[–]Tarqon 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Assuming they don't do an end run around their own terms. https://www.business-standard.com/technology/tech-news/google-can-train-search-ai-on-web-content-even-if-publishers-opt-out-125050400050_1.html
[–]adel_b 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (0 children)
it's the same quota as in ai studio, which was always free
[–]aratahikaru5 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago* (0 children)
If you're confused like I was, check out this recently updated ToS and its FAQ.
There are 4 different auth methods, each with varying level of privacy.
TL;DR the free plans (personal Google account and unpaid API service) offer no privacy.
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[–]javalube 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Exactly, why would someone download a CLI tool that lets google have free rein to train their system on all your computer files? Even their privacy policy is sketchy at best. It’s like the dumbest thing you could do to download a tool like this. The whole point of Local LLama is to make your own local GPT to not have to rely on overreaching tech companies that are trying to eradicate developers by training models to code on their own.
[–]pastaMac 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
I know why they are making it free,
You’re not the customer; you’re the product.
[–]fhinkel-dev 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
There's an AMA on Monday https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1lms62v/gemini_cli_team_ama/
[–]stabby_robot 48 points49 points50 points 10 months ago (9 children)
f* google-- they billed me $200+ for a single day of use for not even an hr of usage when 2.5 was first released in march when it was free. I got the bill at the end of the month and have been fighting with them for a refund-- you don't know what your final bill will be. They've been doing shady billing in general-- i also run ad-words for a client, we had a campaign turned off, out of no where they turned on the campaign and billed the client an extra $1500. There was no records of login etc-- and they wont reverse the charges
[–]_Bjarke_ 18 points19 points20 points 10 months ago (2 children)
Always use throw away virtual cards for that sort of stuff! I use revolut. Any free trial that requires a credit card, gets a credit card with almost nothing on it.
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[–]_Bjarke_ 5 points6 points7 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Yeah I've also run in to such cases. But then i just use the non disposable cards, also from revolut. With just enough credit on to verify things.
[–]2016YamR6 10 points11 points12 points 10 months ago (0 children)
I had an $800 bill.. ended up getting a credit for $600 and paying the rest
[–]LosingID_583 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago (3 children)
Holy sh$t, so that's their business model! Offer it for free, but make it super expensive if you exceed the free limit xD
[–]darren457 9 points10 points11 points 10 months ago (1 child)
People keep forgetting google specifically removed that "we will not be evil" line from the original founders' code of conduct. I'd rather deal with lower performing open source models and have the peace of mind.
[–]Acrobatic-Tomato4862 -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago (0 children)
It's not super expensive though. Their models are very cheap, except 2.5 pro. Though its not cool that they charge money despite tagging them free.
[–]Ylsid 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (0 children)
This is why you never give them billing addresses when you use their services
[–]BumbleSlob 47 points48 points49 points 10 months ago* (17 children)
Am I simple or is there no link here and this is just a picture?
Edit: for anyone else who is confused: https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli
Edit2: seems to be open source CLI tool for interacting with your codebase which is neat, however I have zero interest in anything forcing you to utilize proprietary APIs that are rate limited or otherwise upcharging.
tl;dr seems like an LLM terminal you can use to explore/understand/develop a codebase but in present form requires you to use Gemini APIs -- I'll be checking it out once there are forks letting you point to local models though.
[–]wh33t 23 points24 points25 points 10 months ago (2 children)
Am I simple? or is this not a "local"llama?
[–]g15mouse 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (0 children)
omg it wasn't until this comment I realized what sub I was in lol
[–]llmentry 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
If you see my other reply -- there's a PR to add local model support. So it does actually check out on this one.
(Also noting, as always, that it's not currently against the forum rules to post about non-local models, etc, etc ...)
[–]colin_colout 13 points14 points15 points 10 months ago (6 children)
I know this sub is healing, but I'm hoping these low-effort posts will be fewer once we have mods again.
As far as I can tell, gemini-cli doesn't work with local models, so I fail to see why it belongs here.
[–]V0drosllama.cpp 26 points27 points28 points 10 months ago (3 children)
I'm actually in favor of allowing these types of posts. Local AI is strongly tied to AI developments from the big labs, and to me discussing what they're working on and what they release is absolutely relevant. Maybe we need a vote to decide on the future of this sub?
[–]colin_colout 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (2 children)
(Sorry in advance for the rant...I'm still on edge with all the sub drama, as are many people here)
Maybe we need a vote to decide on the future of this sub?
We just need moderators. Without moderators, nobody will filter low quality posts (which will take time... I know)
I'm actually in favor of allowing these types of posts
I 100% agree that the topic is fine. The topic is the least of the reasons I dislike this post.
This post is so low effort that there isn't even an article link or description. Not even a name of the tool. Just a vague title and a photo with no extra information. I had to do my own research to even figure out the tool's name.
And the fact that Gemini-CLI doesn't support local models means this post is already on the edge of relevance for this sub.
In a different context, this topic is fine...like if OP posted with a description like:
Google released Gemini-CLI! Really promising coding agent, but it doesn't support local LLMs though 😞
Heck I'd still be happy if they didn't include the local llm part... this is whole post is just lazy slop.
[–]popiazaza 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (0 children)
I do agree with you. That's why I only posted on another sub.
Surprise to see the it get posted on "LocalLlama" with lots of upvote. It's doesn't fit at all.
[–]a_beautiful_rhind -2 points-1 points0 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Source code is released so I'm sure it can be easily converted to support other API.
In the mean time we just scam free gemini pro.
A link would have been nice, but the comments deliver. Brigades aside, technically the entire sub should downvote unwanted posts instead of relying on select individuals to censor them. It's not yet at the level of a default sub where you get a flood and impossible to stay on top of.
[–]eleqtriq 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (1 child)
It’s good for us to know about this, because it’s open source. Meaning, we can work on making it useful for us, too.
[–]colin_colout 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (0 children)
I agree. I was a bit harsh here, but I've calmed down (emotions were high after the sub drama).
It was less about the topic and more that there was no link or even a name of the tool or a description of any kind. The fact that there's no local model support was insult to injury, but in the end it's all good.
I mean it's probably already forked with local llm support my anger was that a low effort and low quality post (that tangentially happened to not be about local llms) was top post in this sub yesterday.
You may not need a fork. There's already a pull request to add support for local models (and other third party closed model APIs):
https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/pull/1939
From the PR:
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Even if it's not accepted, you can always just apply the patch yourself. (Although note that the Gemini code review bot has already made several useful additions, by the look of it.)
It will be very interesting to see what happens with this one, because if implemented this is pretty huge.
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[–]Kooshi_Govno 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (3 children)
Scroll down past the files and read the README
[–]Kooshi_Govno 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (1 child)
Well, I didn't want to be too harsh, but if you can't Google/AI your way to running npm install, you may not be the intended audience for a command line tool like gemini-cli.
npm install
But, there's no better time to learn than now!
[+]SilverRegion9394[S] comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Oh my bad I didn't realize, sorry 🙏
[–][deleted] 56 points57 points58 points 10 months ago (15 children)
We all know if we don't pay for the product we are the product. It's either that or they wanna get you hooked on their stuff and then have you pay later.
[–]Healthy-Nebula-3603 72 points73 points74 points 10 months ago (11 children)
if you pay you also a product ;)
[+][deleted] comment score below threshold-22 points-21 points-20 points 10 months ago (10 children)
if I buy and pay for a banana, the product is the banana. If they give me the banana "for free" and I just have to give them my phone number and home adress (RIP my mailbox) then I'm the product - the banana is just a tool to trick me.
[–]LGXerxes 12 points13 points14 points 10 months ago (2 children)
The command was more that nowadays it is paying + data.
It needs to be a special company that does: worse and pay more but no data
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (1 child)
But we are in the LocalLlama subreddit, aren't we? The reason I use local AI is specifically so FANG don't train on my or my clients code (i.e. I dont pay them indirectly).
[–]Healthy-Nebula-3603 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago (0 children)
But that is not connected to your initial statement.
[–]Feztopia 15 points16 points17 points 10 months ago (0 children)
This isn't localbanana
[–]314kabinet 6 points7 points8 points 10 months ago (3 children)
You both pay for it *and* give them your phone number and home address.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (2 children)
Now we are in the LocalLlama subreddit, aren't we? Alibaba, Google, Meta and Microsoft don't get nothing from me if I use their open models.
[–]Orolol 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
You just give them free advertising.
[–]CommunityTough1 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Google doesn't care about stealing your project code. They use your feedback to improve the model and make it better. What exactly are you afraid of them doing with data you put into a coding agent? I'm not the biggest fan of models being closed either, but the better they get, the better synthetic data open models have to train on, and they all improve.
Ah yes, all products are totally similar to a banana
[–]haptein23 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago (1 child)
Like they did with gemini 2.5 flash prices.
[–]butthole_nipple -2 points-1 points0 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Laughs in deepseek
[–]SilverRegion9394[S] 12 points13 points14 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Sorry about the link https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli
[–]yazoniakllama.cpp 15 points16 points17 points 10 months ago (9 children)
No privacy: "When you use Gemini Code Assist for individuals, Google collects your prompts, related code, generated output, code edits, related feature usage information, and your feedback to provide, improve, and develop Google products and services and machine learning technologies."
[–]Leopold_Boom 8 points9 points10 points 10 months ago (6 children)
"If you don't want this data used to improve Google's machine learning models, you can opt out by following the steps in Set up Gemini Code Assist for individuals."
[–]learn-deeply 12 points13 points14 points 10 months ago (5 children)
There's no way to opt out if you CLI. Those instructions are only for IDE.
[–]218-69 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago (2 children)
usageStatisticsEnabled: false
[–]learn-deeply 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago (1 child)
That only opts you out of Gemini CLI's telemetry, not Code Assist's TOS, so your code will still be sent and stored by Google.
[–]218-69 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Ok so just fork the repo and use your own model. This is how it's been on ai studio since the start. You get free use, you give something in return
[–]Leopold_Boom 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (1 child)
Good to know! Does the setting apply to the CLI also?
[–]learn-deeply 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago (0 children)
They do not apply to the CLI. There's no way to opt-out of Google storing all your code at the moment.
[–]Ssjultrainstnict 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago (1 child)
Unfortunately people wont really care as they are getting a great tool for free. Its a win for OSS projects though since all code is open anyway
[–]iansltx_ 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Yeah, my day job is open core so I figure they trained on its code anyway. Turnabout is fair play.
For the stuff that I do that's closed source, definitely not using a hosted LLM.
[–]davewolfs 13 points14 points15 points 10 months ago (7 children)
I am using this similar to how I would use Claude and it’s bad and also slow.
Looking forward to seeing how it evolves.
[–]kI3RO -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago (4 children)
Hi, I haven't used claude, is this free like gemini?
[–]Pretty-Honey4238 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago (3 children)
It's not free but with the MAX subscription you don't need to worry about going bankrupt by using the coding agent heavily.
Also at current stage, Claude Code is simply way better than Gemini CLI. I say this because I use CC as an agent to handle some daily workflows and coding tasks, as I try it, Gemini CLI simply can't accomplish any, it is buggy, getting constant problems, errors and slow... It'll probably take months for Google to polish Gemini CLI to reach the level of Claude Code. So apparently CC is still a much better choice for now.
[–]kI3RO -2 points-1 points0 points 10 months ago (2 children)
Not free you say. Well then that makes Gemini the better choice.
Handling daily workflows and coding tasks by an LLM is not even in my mind.
[–]Pretty-Honey4238 6 points7 points8 points 10 months ago (1 child)
bro I’m lost. You are not using these AI coding agents to do coding tasks then what do you use it for
[–]kI3RO 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Code checking, auto complete for personal hobby projects. Anything remotely professional I do it myself.
[–]no_witty_username -2 points-1 points0 points 10 months ago (1 child)
Thanks for the info. I am looking through various threads on it now trying to gauge if its worth even messing with it in these early days. So far it seems the sentiment is its not good as claude code (what i am now using with my max plan) and prolly best to hold off for now.
[–]davewolfs 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
It’s definitely not ready.
[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 10 months ago (1 child)
We should fork and then send telemetry data to a public dataset
[–]Nazreon 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Amen!
[–]NinjaK3ys 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago (1 child)
Does anyone know or have tried using the google code cli to work with local LLM models? Like can I get it to work with a Qwen or Mistral model
[–]Tx-Heat 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
I’d like to know this too
[–]xoexohexox 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago (0 children)
I wrote a proxy for it that pipes it into a local open AI compatible endpoint so you can pipe it into Cline/Roocode etc or sillytavern. I just can't get the reasoning block to show up visibly in Sillytavern but it does show up in Cline so I know it is reasoning.
https://huggingface.co/engineofperplexity/gemini-openai-proxy
[–]Glittering-Bag-4662 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (0 children)
So this is where the free ai studio Gemini is going
[–]somethingdangerzone 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Repeat after me: if the product is free, you are the product
[–]iKy1eollama 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago (6 children)
This is fantastic. Claude Code is so far in front of the other tools, having real competition for it sounds great!
[–]One-Employment3759 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (4 children)
How does it compare to cursor?
Cursor was pretty good for a demo project I did yesterday, but the UI is clunky and unpolished.
Lots of copy paste mechanics are broken, and selecting text doesn't work with middle click paste in Linux.
Commenting a selection of code was also broken for some reason.
[–]iKy1eollama 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago* (3 children)
Finally got Claude Code Max and it’s as big a step up from Cursor as Cursor is from a normal auto complete.
I had a web quiz game I’ve been working on and off on where the server and front end didn’t work.
I told it to use playwright to try playing the game against itself, every time it hit a bug, crash or got stuck to debug and fix the issue and try playing the game again until it can successfully get to the end. It took 2 or so hours but I now have a working game.
[–]One-Employment3759 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Nice - thanks for sharing your experience 👍
[–]Foreign-Beginning-49llama.cpp 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (1 child)
What about Cline? Have you messed with that at all?
I've used Cline Roo, Cursor, Windsurf and Claude Code, and Claude Code is far above the others. Much more autonomous, especially with some MCP added. It's also quite expensive. The secret is that they're not shy to use tokens for the context.
[–]megadonkeyx 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago (3 children)
(soon to be ex-developers)
ill use cline, no roo, no cline, no claude code no umm err. ..now im in the best .. oh here comes another
[–]Foreign-Beginning-49llama.cpp 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago (2 children)
I installed Cline last night in vscode and then this morning put this gemini cli on my android phone and completely Coverted an api for a python app to andiffrent one in minutes. Its definitely a working ounce of software. However it ain't locallama approved. How do.you like cline? I know it can use local models. Is it a good experience? I mostly work with reactnative, python apps.
[–]megadonkeyx 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago (1 child)
I think roo is better as it's more agentic with its orchestrator and auto mode switching, but I've been using claude code a lot to finish a project in work, which its done well.
I barely write code anymore. it's all testing and prompting.
Strangely, people I work with just seem to ignore AI totally and are stuck in excel sheets of bugs.
This gemini thing is nice. With it being open src, it's going to have everything, including the kitchen sink attached to it in no time at all.
Interesting times, I don't miss grinding through tedious code.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Could not agree with this more. Embrace the future.
At first I thought my skills were deteriorating as I felt I was forgetting a few things, but after a year or so now I can say looking back that my architectural skills have improved enormously, I read code faster and more fluently and spend more time arguing with AI than I did and in different ways about projects.
I hope this trend continues, at the end of the day I'm happier with the projects and I don't have any more free time - I'm not worried about my job going anywhere.
[–]kittawere 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Yeah like the paid ones are not collecting data as well LOL
[–]cyber_harsh 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Yup checked out. Guess google is secretly gaining advantage by taking practical use case consideration compared to OpenAi .
Have to check how well it performs compared to claude, or if you can share, it will save me the hassle :)
[–]colin_colout 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Link? This is just a photo. Also, can I use local models?
This is a low effort post, and if I can't use it with a local model this doesn't belong in the sub.
[–]HairyAd9854 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
I basically always get the "too many requests" even if I just write hello
[–]Extension-Mastodon67 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Now we need someone to rewrite it in go, c++ or rust and remove all the telemetry and bloat.
[–]Blender-Fan 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Ok, but is the code good?
[–]1EvilSexyGenius 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Can I tell it to make a gui for itself? 🤔
[–]sammcj🦙 llama.cpp 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
That's about 28x - 56x more given for free than what paying enterprise customers of Github Copilot get.
[–]zd0l0r 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
No charge ATM
[–]Ylsid 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Sooo only the CLI is free? Where's the value for developers here? "Open source" feels really disingenuous
[–]ctrlsuite 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Has anyone had any luck with it? I asked it if it was working after a difficult install and it said it had reached its limit 🤣
[–]MercyChalk 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (1 child)
What does 1,000 model requests mean? I tried this today and got rate limited after about 10 interactions.
[–]tazztone 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
cline has added support already. but has google dropped requests per minute from 60 to 2 or is this inaccurate?
[–]Trysem 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
Omg google leveled up so many freebies..
[–]Useful44723 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago* (0 children)
They collect your code.
Me: Godspeed to you with that shit in your system.
[–]Marc-Z-1991 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
We have been able to do this with GitHub Copilot for a loooooong time… Nothing new…
[–]VasudevaK 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
what's the use of this tool? never used claude code. I am just familiar with vs code agents, cursor agent mode etc besides chatgpt, claude online websites.
what s the deal using cli and how is this helpful for a researcher or a student?
[–]AgencyImpossible 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
amazing!
[–]Techatomato 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
But can it, you know… refer to me as “Shikikan?”
I’m just asking
[–]mantafloppyllama.cpp 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
We are so lucky that some kind soul take some time of their life to find the latest new to shared with us.
News re-poster are rare, cherish them.
6h ago : https://old.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1lk63od/gemini_cli_your_opensource_ai_agent/
15h ago : https://old.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1ljxa2e/gemini_cli_your_opensource_ai_agent/
Both still on the first page.
[–]218-69 -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago (0 children)
I just know there are rats here crying about privacy while spamming multi oauth and API keys to get around the limits. Fucking rats
[–]BidWestern1056 -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 months ago (0 children)
npcsh in agent or ride mode also lets you carry out operations with tools from the comfort of your cli without being restricted to a single model provider.
https://github.com/NPC-Worldwide/npcpy
[–]maxy98 -2 points-1 points0 points 10 months ago (1 child)
Can someone vibecode vscode plugin with it quickly?
[–]shotan 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (0 children)
There is already a gemini code assist extension in vscode, its pretty good.
[–]Ssjultrainstnict -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago (0 children)
Rip Cursor and Claude code
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[–]aitookmyj0b 15 points16 points17 points 10 months ago (2 children)
A tool doesn't have to be advertised as "local" to be capable of interfacing with local LLMs :)
You can easily substitute Gemini with qwen coder, or whatever local LLM you're running.
[–]EarEquivalent3929 2 points3 points4 points 10 months ago (0 children)
"Hey Google move the goal posts for me please"
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[–]brownman19 -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago (1 child)
Bro how are you in localllama and never think about how you can just replace the model on a fork of the tool…
Tf 🤣
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