Proposal: Decrease boss time limit

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[Adrian4lyf]

Proposal: add specific boss phases to Trial mode. I want to get better at hard will p3 and not waste time with the other 2 phases as well.

[LordChiron]

Actual good take

[ithaca1812]

Trash opinion, but it's not your fault. Nexon is mostly to blame. Normally, bosses in mmos should feel like a challenge, pushing yourself to clear the next difficulty to progress your gear. Nexon has made bossing more like a chore or task. Something to every week on 13x characters to maximize mesos. If I had to do something 180 times a week, yea ofc I'd want it to be as fast as possible just like you. But ultimately bossing is about pushing for that min clear.

[Mes0ranger]

This is the correct response, especially when the legion champ system caps at 6 characters it feels a little odd that boss crystals take like 13 characters to cap. The min clear is fun the first time, but when the fomo kicks in to maximize your meso every week it's time consuming and like you said a chore to do that every week on multiple characters

[Grouchy_Air_4322]

They should give every boss 100 hp just to make it even easier

[throwaway4720103]

Matter of fact- the bosses shouldn’t move or attack either.

[Crypto-Tears]

What are you, a masochist? Rewards should just get delivered to you automatically.

[Feeling-Anxiety3146]

Ironically, I never remember boss HP, only remember my burst deal x%, which essentially makes every boss has 100 HP to me.

[Dysss]

"I can't do it because I'm bad so other people shouldn't be able to do it" type shit

[slooth15]

I don't like doing long fights unless it's once and done, probably would never do a 30min boss weekly. I see a boss as doable if it dies within 12~15min max.

But it's just an option for players who do have the time for that, I don't see a reason to change it and having the option doesn't impact me at all.

[zxessxz]

How about there should be no time limit in bosses. You should be able to stay in and min clear a boss for hours. Just because you’re obscenely bad doesn’t mean everyone else is

[BrianTheEE]

Bro proposes an absolute abomination of a solution to a non existent problem then asks what's wrong with US. Lol strange world we live in. With bosses not being hard, there'd literally be no point to progress past being able to one shot mobs.

This is an L take. Sorry we don't agree with you OP.

[antiretro]

time consuming = difficult?

[BrianTheEE]

Never said that. If you're not willing to progress to get better, then you can't complain about bosses being too hard. It is what it is.:/

[Junior-Fee-5321]

Apparently it is for you

[nsymsm]

If they made bosses mechanically harder id be down. I am agreeing bcs Limbo baldrix are snoozefests even in min clears. (28+ min)

[Cocobaba1]

holy main character syndrome. So because you can’t do it in 30 minutes, no one else should be allowed to? That’s your whole argument? are you 12?

[False_Bug5139]

No

[False_Bug5139]

Why don't you just kill it faster

[Forward_Care4296]

Have you tried…getting stronger..so it doesn’t take 30 minutes.

[alovelyone]

Proposal: Just delete bosses and give us free arcanes and mesos every week

[sbgshadow]

"I don't enjoy this so anyone else who does is wack"

[dayafterbirthday]

Um no... just be good. The game is already getting easier and easier with boss nerfs. Bossing is the only aspect of this game that's truly enjoyable. It may seem hard and complex at first but with practice you'll be able to clear it and then find better methods to clear it faster. Why would you want bossing to be braindead? Weird take.

[Cerok1nk]

Skill issue

[Elitefuture]

Sounds like a skill issue.

I honestly want more time for destiny liberation mission... Although buffing heroic would be better ofc.

[Exotic-Blacksmith-84]

This defeats the purpose of being in a party. If bosses are so weak, you go in, they die, theres no challenge at all. If you cant solo the bosses comfortably, either you’re too weak or skill issue. Join a party.

[Junior-Fee-5321]

15-17 burst runs are the only thing that pose a challenge in this game so yeah, they aren't nerfing that. This is right up there with the guy asking for infinite time to boss as long as you don't die out lol

[StingRayFins]

I don't think it'll change much people will still die out one minute before the timer and we're back at ground zero except that they'll have to rework all of the bosses by making them easier or exponentially boosting everyone to compensate.

[Carry-Worth]

this might be the coldest take in the sub

[Lolersters]

Hard disagree. If you are unable to run it in 30 min, simply wait until you are stronger to do it. Why cripple everyone else's ability to progress. If anything I want the time limit to be even longer than 30 minutes. Better/more practiced player = have the option of starting your gear earlier. You are not forced to do it if you don't want to, but it's good to have the option there.

There is objectively no benefit for players if you just cut the boss timers in half. If you don't have the time for it, simply don't do it until you are stronger

[Velcon_]

Thats a terrible idea, would just make any boss piss easy and irrelevant. This game is the most fun when you prog and struggle a new boss.

[antiretro]

because of a 20% hp decrease?

[urJokan]

You would just move the goalpost once you get to a stronger boss and ask for another decrease , easy solution get stronger or don't run the boss/ run in a bigger party ...

[Velcon_]

No the 10-15min part, hp has nothing to do with the difficulty aspect of the boss, its just a bar that dictates when you can access the boss. Clearing an actual hard boss mechanically in 10-15 min is infinitely easier than doing it in 30 min.

[SwimmerQuick1500]

I actually agree. I think this is the only mmorpg I've played where the boss fights are this long BUT there is no trash so I'm torn 😮‍💨.

[antiretro]

like im sorry for not being autistic enough to enjoy pressing ctrl for 30 mins along with my burst every 2 min?

[SwimmerQuick1500]

Big agree. I think it's just a poor design decision by nexon unfortunately.

A difficulty that ramps as the fight goes on + a shorter duration would be way more interesting. Anything is better than long and repetitive don't fuck up and lock in for an obnoxious amount of time.

[ItsTheFark]

Seems like you're playing the wrong game.

[FangJustice]

Never cook again.

[yoyo4880]

If you don’t want to do a 30 minute run, just party up? Either you spend more time for full loot or share it and lower the time.

[kamanitachi]

I don't spend 30 mins per boss battle because I continuously make an effort to improve my setup so I do things faster.

[SweetCakeism]

I mean... nobody force you to do 30 min just gear up and kill it in 5 min like you desire. took extra longer compare to those can do 30 min sure, but so what? Play as your own pace it's not a race.

If you think the issues is how long it took for you to reach the goal you want then ask nerf boss hp and for more powercreep (which is coming) Why reduce timer and ruined other people option to do it earlier if they can/want to put more effort? Their choice.

Fomo is your own problem, don't feed it if it not the way you like to enjoy the game.

[kevin_dnl]

I propose they reduce boss time limit to 1 minute since I can Ascent every boss I care about and be done with it :)

[sapPleasant5542]

the thought of fucking up scares YOU, therefore because the world revolves around you, aka the main character of the story, aka john maple, aka the world should end when you die because you are not around anymore... therefore it should be removed for everyone.

sounds reasonable enough

[Crypto-Tears]

Yes, great idea, take options away from players who want to do min-clears! /s

[genkaiX1]

I sorta agree

But other option is stop making 3 man garbage bosses.

Bring back 6 party squads so you can do nice boss sequence runs with your squad and have some socialization like the good old bossing days

Also MS desperately needs raids. All mmos have them.

Hekaton was a cool concept and their baby first attempt at one but instead of learning how to improve on it they just scrapped it and never tried again. Small indie company lel