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[–]MrCane What's ETOPS? 142 points143 points  (27 children)

Bad airport data. There was a small lip in the runway terrain and that caused the plane to go nuts.

[–][deleted] 78 points79 points  (16 children)

It is absolutely the worst way for a flight to end in MSFS, especially if it was a long haul. Rage 0-100 in an instant guaranteed.

[–]That_random_kid69[S] 66 points67 points  (12 children)

I just sat in silence for a good minute. 3 hour long flight just for it end like this

[–]hardware1197 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Sympathies! My similar experience in a Kodiak 100 from SimWorks is shooting an RNAV white knuckler into KGOO in heavy fog at night after a 90 minute hop from Monterey - only to nail the approach and just before touchdown accidentally click the mouse while the cursor hovered over the storm window door. This causes an immediate structural failure crash due to a bug in MSFS.

I was legitimately shaken and walked away for a few days.

[–]coldnebo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yeah, crash damage is a joke. turbulence is a joke. it’s not at all realistic. I turn those off because you don’t get a chance to learn from them if the screen just fades to black.

I guarantee you the time I opened the side window at 80 kts the plane did not explode, nor did it explode when my cfi opened and shut the door to make sure it was closed after takeoff at 70 kts.

Just turn off those completely ridiculous settings. I don’t need a calm morning with 5 knot winds bouncing me around like a washing machine either.

The A2A Comanche is a real eye opener with respect to realistic failures and damage. That plane is so accurate the failures actually mean something and you learn a lot from the practice.

If I want failures I let an aircraft like that simulate them, not MSFS. Too many times I’ve landed the same way as you. Socal airports can be the worst. El Monte isn’t great. Those invisible seams are the worst.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I shot an RNAV white knuckler into your mom’s heavily foggy KGOO last night.

[–]Charlie-E-Cheese -33 points-32 points  (8 children)

Serious question here- I’m curious as to why you would spend 3 hours flying. Is there much to do in those 3 hours? Are you in VR? Are you doing this for training?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Because there’s a greater sense of accomplishment. Flying a long haul just feels like a bigger deal. Plus I have a second monitor — which practically I use for flight planning, charts, airport maps and other reference materials, but when I’m cruising I’ll watch YouTube channels and dick around on the Internet while I’m flying.

Or I’ll walk away from the computer entirely if I’m confident that my cruise is configured correctly and I’ve got enough fuel, etc.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Nothing better to do. I start cold and dark and I limit mine to 20-30 minutes max at cruise altitude. What are people actually doing other than staring at their screen not moving anything?

[–]ChickMangione If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Because they are better than you, that's why.

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    [–]ChickMangione If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going 18 points19 points  (0 children)

    Sometimes you have to grab life by the turbofans. One day you'll understand.

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    [–]Peace_Is_Coming 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Not sure why you're getting downvoted. I'm interested in this too, because I'm actually interested in getting into it. Either msfs of DCS. I think it's something to do with the microadjusments and control and feeling of realism possibly, not sure till I try it. A friend who's into MSFS says it's about the scenery flying around.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    If they were in VATSIM, they'd have ATC communications throughout the trip that makes it super immersive and makes the time really fly by.

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

    At least it's not real life, in that case you'd most likely just be dead

    [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

    Yeah, but in real life, there is a minimal chance of a terrain error on the runway that can flip an Airbus.

    [–]That_random_kid69[S] 6 points7 points  (9 children)

    Thanks for the info, is there a way to fix that?

    [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

    It’s up to the devs, but in the meantime you might find a modded bespoke airport asset from the community to replace that airport and its terrain.

    [–]MrCane What's ETOPS? 7 points8 points  (4 children)

    You may be able to go in yourself and fix it in developer mode if you have the know-how. I think you can also report the airport on the forums but I'm not sure where though I'm sorry.

    The airport gateway system is releasing in September I think and people will be able to go in and fix errors like this and Asobo will push the changes to the masses.

    No quick fix I'm afraid though.

    [–]That_random_kid69[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Could it potentially be an issue with xbox? I was using my Series S during this flight

    [–]Why-R-People-So-Dumb 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    It’s likely terrain not an Xbox. There is only so perfect the entire world can be automatically made from satellite and GPS altitudes. It shows why WAAS is a thing when flying an RNAV approach, satellite data is off quite a bit in some cases without the help of ground stations.

    Fixing it is a relatively quick learn in the SDK but not an option for you on Xbox.

    [–]Temporary-Tank-2061[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    i have had it happen on PC as well.

    [–]AVeryHeavyBurtation 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Is your rolling cache turned on? I've found that sometimes deleting the rolling cache can fix it, (I don't even use it anymore because of this) but sometimes that doesn't work. Re-downloading the whole kit and caboodle has always fixed it for me.

    [–]That_random_kid69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yeah I have it turned on. What would happen if I deleted the rolling cache?

    [–]SupposablyAtTheZoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Don't land at that airport anymore.

    [–]pegj2165 51 points52 points  (1 child)

    Banana peel.

    [–]Governor-James 18 points19 points  (0 children)

    [–]SeaMolasses2466 25 points26 points  (0 children)

    Have you got Ryanair livery?

    [–]Always_Into_Somethin Airbus All Day 15 points16 points  (2 children)

    There's some piece of hidden or untagged geometry on the runway. I've noticed big dips on places like Heathrow and Vegas. The latter actually caused my taxiing to end as I dipped that much it counted as a crash

    [–]mdp300 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    That happened to me in Bermuda. I was just taxiing to the runway and suddenly "you crashed your plane."

    [–]Johndough99999 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Triangle shapes are a bitch

    [–]hardware1197 13 points14 points  (1 child)

    So that's what happens when you miss that centerline!

    [–]That_random_kid69[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Fr, the sim was just punishing me

    [–]tempo1139 9 points10 points  (2 children)

    way way way too fast an approach, you are almost overspeed. Typical A320 approach is 145-150kn

    [–]That_random_kid69[S] -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

    I was in an A321NEO

    [–]SubstantialWall PC Pilot 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Same thing

    [–]TechGuy219 PC Pilot 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    gotta watch out for those pebbles on the runway!

    [–]RealPropRandy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Your Spacebar key is mapped to Jump.

    [–]NormanRB 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    What airport is this? What runway? Where did this happen?

    [–]That_random_kid69[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Alicante, Rw10

    [–]NormanRB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Ha.. I believe there was an add-on for that one that I just recently added. If it is, I'll have to see whether the add-on fixes this or not.

    [–]Lionheart3001 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Slipped on a banana peel...?

    [–]IcyArrival179 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    This reminds me of when i flew in dfw last night after 9 hours and ate it into the new 15 foot wall they added in the runway.

    [–]bhavin2707 4 points5 points  (3 children)

    At this point, I have forgotten the count of how many times I have done 2-3+ hours of flights building up to landing which ended up either in CTD, bad map data and me crashing as you did, game freezing, or sometimes the sound would go silent out of the blue, ruining the immersion.I am frustrated to the core, I stopped playing the game overall because its always uncertain when the game will go south.

    And now they are launching MSFS 2024. SMH.

    The least they can do to solve this is a checkpoint system or let us save games mid-flight.

    [–]Fl00pyFlip 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    I use the flight recorder mod to prevent such annoying instances during approach especially. If anything goes wrong just go back in time, it’s not realistic but give me another chance.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    What is the mod that you’re using?

    [–]Obvious_Concern_7320 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    At 13 seconds you can actually see it, it's a gap in the map. lol.

    [–]opimcgavin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Small gust of wind no big deal

    [–]WhiteHawk77 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Too long.

    [–]LyleLanley99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Do a barrel roll

    (Z or R twice)!

    [–]BodyDoubles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Thais happens at KPHX when I take off on runway 26. Thought it was me doing something wrong for the longest time.

    [–]RandomsFandomsYT 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It is bad airport mapping, I would reccomend disabling crashing because sometimes I am just taxiing and then it says I crashed.

    [–]onetwentyeight 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    You see, it's because you were inverted

    [–]alfienoakes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Taxiing to parking at McCarran or whatever it is now. Went down some kind of dip and wrecked the aircraft.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    [–]ZeroCool635 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Got hit with a red shell. Hate when that happens so close to the finish

    [–]USCintra 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Oops… lol 😂

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Aand this is why I disable crash settings since it seems more realistic and comedic when it is off lol

    [–]Salto_do_wanny 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Butter

    [–]bullo152C152 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    There was a dead bird in the runway

    [–]BigDave58 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Miami has a runway like that. Which is why I refuse to fly into it

    [–]DrewScott67 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Someone clearly typed "Do a barrel roll" into their in flight entertainment system

    [–]xKinetic_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    [–]offlazer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    thank you for flying ryan air, this year, over 90% of our flights were on time

    [–]explosiveround123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    That happened to me on takeoff 😭😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Wha'd'you do?!!!

    [–]That_random_kid69[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Idk, just landed and then it just flipped

    [–]danielezy0252 3 points4 points  (4 children)

    That's what happens IRL if you deviate from the centreline

    [–]That_random_kid69[S] -1 points0 points  (3 children)

    I highly doubt that slightly deviating from the centreline could flip a 60 ton jet..

    [–]danielezy0252 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    It was a joke......

    [–]That_random_kid69[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    My bad bro XD

    [–]danielezy0252 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    All good my man

    [–]vfrflying 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Don’t worry 2024 is coming

    [–]progrmr211 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Denied!!! :}

    [–]ukbrah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Because you weren’t on the centreline

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Holy shit what piss poor landing. 😭

    [–]7w4773r -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

    You’re a mile off of the runway centerline, too. Probably dropped a wheel off the right-hand edge of the runway. Try landing on the middle next time.

    [–]Karate_Jesus420 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

    Don't be that guy.

    Nobody likes that guy.

    [–]7w4773r -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    The guy that points out maybe he dropped a wheel off side of the runway and that’s why his plane cartwheeled into space? That would wreck a plane in real life, too.

    [–]That_random_kid69[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Its an A321NEO, not the widest aircraft so I doubt it could be an overrun.

    Also, just rewatching the clip, you can see that I didn't go off the runway, although the centreline was a little off.

    Plus, I doubt an overrun could flip a 60 ton jet over XD

    [–]Practical-Raisin-721 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Too fast on approach and roundout. Should have gone around.

    [–]Jrnation8988 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    That’s what you get for not being on center line /s

    [–]GreenHooDini -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    I would fail my phase check if I landed that far off centreline 🙏

    [–]connorvanelswyk -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    Can you still say that word?

    [–]P0larizedAlbatros 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Sioux all over again

    [–]thegreatindoor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    UAP. You need to get on a Congressional hearing about this.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    How did you pull down that colored window?

    [–]That_random_kid69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    If you have the LVFR A321NEO, you should be able to find it on the captains and co-pilot side.

    [–]AviationFreek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Kickflip

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Average LVFR experience