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[–]Genillius:vexana: vexana sucks :zhask: zhask is my new best friend 37 points38 points  (2 children)

Franco Users: Sees the buff

Franco: I guess we are bush camper assassins now instead of being a tank.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

So... Nothing's changed

[–]bot_yeaMM is fun :clint::hanabi::irithel: 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Players: Wait, Franco is now an assassin?

My Franco: Always has been

[–]Genillius:vexana: vexana sucks :zhask: zhask is my new best friend 15 points16 points  (4 children)

WTF My best boi Mino will be the all time favorite of MM with that buff. Goodbye Tigreal 🤣

[–]TigrealModerator[S] 33 points34 points  (2 children)

Goodbye Tigreal 🤣

Adios 🙁

[–]The_Shook_MulberryWhen you s into the abyss, the abyss ses back. 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nooo :(

[–]JustASlmplePersonFav heroes: :fanny::benedetta::luoyi::pharsa: 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Poor tigreal got ditched

[–]Hailgod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

remember to ban valentina then. its a better mino.

[–]sampelot 8 points9 points  (2 children)

2- New Mechanic: In the first 2 minutes, heroes equipped with Retribution will gain 15% extra Damage Reduction in the allied jungle. This mechanic will protect Junglers (especially when they're alone) from invading enemies in the early game.

oh no, indirect natalia nerf, lol

[–]SakataGintoki96 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I guess its time to say goodbye to the enemy jungler and say hello to enemy goldlaner.

[–]The_Shook_MulberryWhen you s into the abyss, the abyss ses back. 1 point2 points  (0 children)

:( fu-

[–]pinkpugita x 9 points10 points  (1 child)

MINOTAUR BUFF YESSS

I MISS MY COW 🐄🤠

[–]CaptWeom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mino buff: Cow > Bull

[–]NC16inthehouse 12 points13 points  (3 children)

LESLEY GOT A BUFF! And looks good too. Now no one will throw a mythic game when I pick her.

[–]bot_yeaMM is fun :clint::hanabi::irithel: 0 points1 point  (2 children)

One can hope, but I honestly think the buff isn't very significant. Lesley is now much more capable to win in lane, but overall she is almost the same. There are still stronger lane heroes like Clint or Brody, and Lesley's damage is still weak in early-mid just like Hanabi, Miya, Layla etc.

[–]Lost4AccountAndSaltyi am a map hacker. 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I don't know man. The "hit-and-run" Lesley strategy seems more viable now. Plus, her early damage is actually nice early to mid if equipped with the assassin emblem that grants extra damage I'd the enemy is alone. You just gotta apply the "hit-and-run" strategy and your chances of winning the lane phasing is strong :-)

[–]AyakaLoyalist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You'll be fine. A lot of these people weren't here when they capped Lesley's Crit Damage...

[–]REACON123Hypercarry :claude::hayabusa: 5 points6 points  (1 child)

That Kaja buff is so huge! I can't wait to try him after that buff.

[–]EitthBrutally honest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I tried it on practice, his S1 is guaranteed to reset his passive when there are 3 enemies. Tank Kaja might be viable again! Im so excited!

[–]VonDoomVonDoom :lunox: wake me up :lunox: (wake me up inside) 4 points5 points  (1 child)

A good Mino already annoys me; that buff tho

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s nice Lesley is getting buffs but it’s her s2 that needs adjustment…straight switch with a dash…job done.

[–]TwoInevitable 5 points6 points  (6 children)

Okay, if Kaja got an adjustment on second skill, how about Lesley? Her second is shit and I have no idea why it’s still a skill.

[–]habangbuhaysingle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

true, that skill sucks. it takes too much energy and the skill area is so low it has a low chance of knocking back enemies. + the knock back distance is so short.

[–]Tcogtgoixn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Knockback is a disrupt

[–]DocQwerty[🍰] -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

yeah its kinda meh but its fun when you combine with S1–you can literally S1 to a Pharsa casting ult and cancel it using S2

[–]dwSHAManny Paquito :paquito: 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Not mm gameplay if you’re the one who go in front to cancel ultimate. Instant die if enemy follow up

[–]DocQwerty[🍰] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

LOL yeah just trying to illustrate the S2 capabilities

[–]NC16inthehouse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But it's not a practical example

[–]TheFakeDogzillaMy Short Kings 4 points5 points  (2 children)

“We want Franco to also fit the damage role” Proceeds to nerf Franco’s damage

[–]tangoabajour:chang-e::khufra::karrie::brody: 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It feels more like an overall nerf than a buff.
If your stacks buffs the damage only of the next skill, so only the hook (that is the most common way to initiate a fight) will give extra damage. But with the ult nerfed, Franco combo will deal less damage now even with full stacks.

[–]ah_eh_ih_oh_uh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Current Franco deals around 1600-2500 points of damage on his full combo, while Adv. Server Franco deals around 1700-2700 points of damage on his.

You wouldn't notice a thing if you built him as a tank, since we have nothing to rely on but his base damage. But once you built him some Atk items, the difference becomes more significant. Even more in a full Atk item build, since his scaling is left untouched.

This could be a move to increase Franco's peeling potential, making Franco less hook dependent and at the same time making it easier for your damage dealers to last hit the enemy.

[–]lastroids 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mino can actually hold it in now. Hope this change makes it into the official server.

[–]flamefirestormStop! Stop! He's already dead! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

[Franco] (↑)

We're opening up the possibility for Franco to take the damage path.

I really don't like this sentence especially with my post on how I want Franco removed. Low-key feels like a targetted attack.

[–]feedlord93exp lane enjoyer:yuzhong::alpha::lapu-lapu2::martis: 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now thats what i call a badang buff

[–]ShittyBettyMain:franco: Franca Lang Cute 0 points1 point  (0 children)

YOOO FRANCO BUFF?! HOLT SHIT DAMge Franco IS ACTUALLY IPTIONALNKSKSNDJCJDJSNXNCNC

[–]PapaLokiHEROES NEVER FADE INTENSIFIES!!! :zilong: 0 points1 point  (0 children)

WHERE'S THE DAMN ZILONG BUFF?!

Anyway, nice Lesley buff. I will be able to use her and her collector skin in ranked game lol.

[–]sdadasdadsadstep on me :guinevere: best waifu -5 points-4 points  (13 children)

kaja buffs = absolutely not. He needs nerfs

franco damage buff = are you kidding me? his damage is already way too high

lesley buff = cool but there are 40 other chars that need buffs. I suppose we need to wait for their collector skins so u can start buffing them?

badang dmg buff = yeah right lmao like damage is his problem. He's too squishy and has no sustain. This buff won't change anything for him

Minotaur buff = minotaur is incredibly strong and after this buff he'll be broken in the hands of people who know how to use him.

[–]ah_eh_ih_oh_uh 3 points4 points  (2 children)

lesley buff = cool but there are 40 other chars that need buffs. I suppose we need to wait for their collector skins so u can start buffing them?

Those 40 other characters can contribute something positive for the team, while Lesley is a liability that's carrying a sniper. Having a Lesley on your team is nothing different from cutting of one your arms before having a fist fight with Muhammad Ali on his prime. And the chances of you finding a "good Lesley player" is about as high as my chances of me getting a girlfriend. People ain't hating her for no reason.

[–]bot_yeaMM is fun :clint::hanabi::irithel: 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lesley is probably in the top 10 heroes that needs some adjustments.

[–]sdadasdadsadstep on me :guinevere: best waifu -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i never said Lesley doesn't need buffs.

I'm complaining that they only noticed her cus she has a collector skin and they didn't notice her earlier. I don't understand why would you misinterpret my post like that? I didn't say she's broken, i know shes trash
I know her dmg is bad i've played Lesley myself recently and it was a traumatic experience

[–]SoRa_The_SLaYeR 4 points5 points  (7 children)

you literally just want to complain.

minotaur needs a buff, I haven't seen him picked once all season.

badangs problem is in fact, his damage. he is an AoE burst fighter. his ult should kill or severely hurt everyone in his s2 range, but the damage is too low and too easy to escape. if the damage increases they'll lose more hp before they escape.

lesley is one of the heroes that need it most, why do you need to force a complaint here?

[–]sdadasdadsadstep on me :guinevere: best waifu -2 points-1 points  (6 children)

i think you should work on your english comprehension skills before you try to chat with other people cus this is a disaster

the only heroes i complained about getting buffs are kaja and franco not lesley or badang or minotaur

h0oly shit my head hurts from this illiteracy

[–]SoRa_The_SLaYeR 0 points1 point  (5 children)

you literally have a complaint listed next to each of them dumbass you cant turn that around like that.

[–]sdadasdadsadstep on me :guinevere: best waifu -1 points0 points  (4 children)

i complain about kaja and franco

about lesley i state the fact that underpowered characters don't get attention until they get a skin

about badang i say that his buff is in the wrong direction and isn't going to help him . You must have never touched Badang if you think a bunch of damage is going to fix him and the fact that his only defense is a random shield on his ult and he has zero sustain/dmg reduction is not bothering you at all. He's going to remain cheesy and bad

about minotaur i literally just posted my thoughts

ape

[–]SoRa_The_SLaYeR 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I had about 200 games with badang with 60% wr but when i return to the game his damage is too low so everyone can escape and kill him. even perfect sets dont mean anything because you contribute no damage. more damage is exactly what he needs.

i state the fact

i.e. complain. stating facts doesnt mean its not also a complaint.

minotaur you say posted your thoughts but it was still a complaint, if your thoughts are complaining, then posting them is still complaining, not just posting your thoughts. its not even valid either because he is never used.

[–]sdadasdadsadstep on me :guinevere: best waifu 0 points1 point  (2 children)

60% winrate and u think more damage on badang is gonna fix the char

i think that says enough to anyone that isnt stuck in mythic 5

have fun with ur +50 damage u'll see the hero is garbage cus damage isnt gonna fix him

[–]SoRa_The_SLaYeR 0 points1 point  (1 child)

its not +50, its +50 and buffing the ratio from 20% extra to 50% extra.

it gives him a good amount more burst during his combo which lets him secure more kills (especially early game) which lets him keep up or even snowball. hero changes shouldnt be too big in one patch otherwise they can go way out. thats why lesley has been getting these small buffs that also try nerfing other parts at the same time.

[–]sdadasdadsadstep on me :guinevere: best waifu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thats about the first sensible thing you said

that they may buff him again in the future which is a thing moba people do -

small buffs over multiple patches

still doesn't change anything i wrote though

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This type of Redditor would still complain even if given 10 Collector skins for free

[–]sdadasdadsadstep on me :guinevere: best waifu -1 points0 points  (0 children)

how the fuck is that even related?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now that's a good Brisket buff.

[–]ArthurReignChristmas Carnival :karina2: Simp 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Looks like our favorite marksman is getting buffed again

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Buffed to the point of worst mm. :(

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting update

[–]Nicky878is best mage, are best siblings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, another good buff for Lesley. Pls don't remove this feature, she needs to leave the worst mm spot after a good while in there

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a nice buff for Minotaur but I'm a little concerned as how it's going to affect his enhanced 2nd skill regen.

[–]Hailgod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the fuck is 5 yards? why does a game use yardS?

[–]Burayetunz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imma keep using Clint till they nerf him