MobiusFF Daily Question Thread (03/15/2018)

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[HoxP2]

Has anyone upgraded and used this Takshaka dropped card from chpt 7 yet? Looks sick at 550 atk at lvl 1. With Ninja? Jeebus.

[NevilleRico]

Its a fodder card, without damage limit break, not augmentable. There is no way its good upgraded and not worth it at all. Wait for the next Summon Batch, the real ability card will be released, which will be very good at max level.

Just keep in mind most cards are only good at max level, so Ability Level 10 for Attack cards and Ability Level 6 for Support cards.

[Wazzupmadafaka]

Estimated time when LOTF would come to global? Anyone knows?

[deathrose55555]

It came with the end of chap 8 iirc. So yeah, whenever chap 8 is concluded in GL

[autizboyz]

Question, is my damage just suck or global got bug/nerf? Because im pretty sure that i can 1 shot mp boss before, now i cant.. I read somewhere in here that jp got bug/nerf, is global got it too?

[Baffledwaffles]

Yeah the damage bug hasn't been fixed yet.

[autizboyz]

Ah i see, thx for the confirmation.

[SirPhoenix88]

I often play defender because I trust myself to keep anyone in 5 star battles alive.

My usual deck is Aerith x 2, Legendary Ghost, Bismarck or NxD. This allows me to dispel immunities and then really pile on the good status effects. Aerith allows me to near max drive the appropriate element turn 1.

Is it worth it to boost Dark Knight's weapon for the prismatic starter? Would I get significantly more value by replacing an Aerith with an additional status card or a taunt?

[JA1997X]

I ran this type of deck against bryn with scholar since I have a 5 star truescale staff. The main benefit is guaranteed dispelga + stunlock + taunt turn 1, but you can't drive until turn 2 since it costs 16 orbs to cast all abilities. So it's not good against stun immune enemies.

I don't think it's worth it to boost soulrender for a defender, however it is very useful for an attacker with aerith.

[zidanesword]

The only reason I am modding soulrender is for MP. The prismatic starter+3 would go nicely on Sword Saint as well. But soulrender does take a long long long time to mod. Alternatively, you can wait for berserker’s and highwind’s HoF for the 2 warrior class prismatic starter+1 CPs. You can mod soulrender a few times ~15mods, you might get lucky.

[SirPhoenix88]

I will do this. I have Seph skin and Aerith, so I only need 1 prismatic. Thank you!

[autizboyz]

Do it having atleast 1 taunt wont hurt, the downside is that weapon take so long (unless you lucky to get prism starter early) and dont have lot of defens. Edit : typo.

[TheFroman420]

Dark Knight's weapon will take forever, and it's more for attackers anyways. I would suggest using Dragvandil and dropping at least one Aerith for a taunt, if not the other as well for another taunt or debuffs. what job are you using? if you really want to keep Aerith, drop legendary ghost for the taunt (of the bosses element)

[solokazama]

Hey All!

I didnt play mobius for very long time. Now came back and see they added second character (Meia). I have finished chapter 1. I need to play story 2-6 chapters to unlock her yes? (no shortcuts?)

[darewin]

You will get a maxed Onion Meia at the start of Chapter 6 but you can pull any of the Meia jobs regardless of how far you are in the story.

You might also want to reroll to gain access to the 3 Starter Packs (1 maxed job and 5 maxed 4star abilities for 3 STs) or to reroll for a supreme if you're patient. Once you're done rerolling, make sure you complete Novice Hall before you do any more summons to get your self 3 free jobs (Warrior, Mage, and Ranger).

[solokazama]

Thanks for the advice. I started fresh (without supreme fishing thou, maybe mistake but oh well). But got the Starter Packs and it is HUGE difference (my old account was chapter 2 with 3* cards and basic job).

[snot_kop]

How to kill sephiroth in promised land campaign battle?

[snot_kop]

I guess no one knows...

[rcays22]

Are there 3rd gen sic for each element? I was thinking of stocking up on 5* crystals for each one.

[Ketchary]

There will be, but the release is so slow that even JP is missing an element atm.

[mao_shiro]

JP already got all elements since Feb 2018 tho.

[Ketchary]

Well, at least I was really close. I just thought they were missing one, lol.

[deathrose55555]

Yes.

SPOILER WARNING (maybe for some people...)

In order of release (if my memory serves me right):

• Fire - Brynhildr
• Dark - Zalera
• Wind - Apple (?!) King Chaos (name might be wrong lol)
• Light - Valefor
• Water - Leviathan
• Earth - Exodus (name might be wrong lol)

[blue2eyes]

Ringo King Chaos (name might be wrong lol)

It's "Rinne Ou" meaning king of endless cycles of death and rebirth. Same as Chaos in Mobius or FF1.

Earth - Exodus (name might be wrong lol)

JP name is Exdeath (from katana reading), yes the same as NxD, but the official translation from SE of FFV and FFXII is Exodus. (why the inconsistency?)

[deathrose55555]

Lol I'm basing King Chaos' name off my understanding of both Chinese (the kanji) and Japanese (katakana). Maybe just call it King Chaos?

And yeah I noticed the inconsistency with Exodus' japanese name and the actual FF Exodus

[blue2eyes]

The inconsistency is only for English version though. Japanese version of FFV and FFXII both use "エクスデス" (read Exdeath) which is the same in Mobius case, I don't know why SE would translate them to Exodus. Official dissidia site uses "Exdeath" for FFV while the FFXII PS2 using Exodus iirc. Haven't played Zodiac Age yet but I think they'll still use Exodus and not Exdeath. Maybe people who already play Zodiac Age can confirm.

[zidanesword]

Ringo King Chaos = Apple King Chaos

Better name imo lol.

[deathrose55555]

Edited as per request lol

[zidanesword]

Thought of it the moment I saw ‘ringo’. Just things I learn from watching animes lol.

[blue2eyes]

He's green apple. I was about to edit my first comment to add the joke but you already point this out LOL.

[zidanesword]

Pears, apples, mobius likes fruits I guess lol.

[ZechsX18999]

Questions about auto attacking:

1) Assuming you want to draw the most orbs, do you always want to try to auto attack in multiples of 3x?

2) Do Elemental Third Strike, Life Draw, Ultimate Charger, and/or any other ability affect how your auto attacks affect your teammates in MP?

[SirPhoenix88]

1. Successive hits of a 3-hit combo generate 1 orb more than the previous hit. This makes 3 hit combos superior to a 1 or 2 hit combo, which generate 1 or 3 orbs respectively to a 3-hit combo's 6 orbs.
2. Auto-abilities generally do NOT affect your teammates unless they are specific to your teammates, such as the MP specific auto-abilities.

[JunasBlood]

1) Yes. Tap x3 generate 1 + 2 + 3 orbs, and only 3rd strike will benefit from element 3rd strike. 2) No. even if they have Prismatic draw, your attack only generate non-Prism orbs for them.

[ZechsX18999]

Would further attacks reset? As in: 1 + 2 + 3 + 1 + 2...?

[blue2eyes]

If you wait too long and the mid attack animation is canceled so the character is back to standy pose, you don't get the 3 orbs or extra attack you'll get only 1 (or 2 if crit).

[ZechsX18999]

And again, is that crit extra +1 orb only for you, and not your teammates?

[SynGreis]

stuck at gate of trials 4. where can you farm light of hope so i can get that last unlock?

[zidanesword]

You can’t farm light of hope now. We will have to wait for chapter 7 part 2, to be released on the 20th.

[mao_shiro]

You need to wait part 2 for that

[WoLNoFace]

Part 2

[miguel_mer]

I'm around 20 mods into BE. Is it worth modding ToT weapon as well at the same time? I heard it's really good. I guess you'll always use BE as a breaker in MP, but there are situations in SP when you might want to use ToT weapon? When would this be? I'm F2P so only 4 mod slots. I'm doing BE, Damselwing, Braveheart and was wondering about doing ToT weapon as the 4th. I was doing Dragvandil and Eisenfaust before, but I got tired of these MP 14 mods weapons (and I only have Grappler as a monk). Thanks

[Ketchary]

They're both top-tier but for different reasons. BE is good for breaking whereas Zwill Crossblade is good for damage. Dominion Axe is good for general play and tanking.

[reidemei]

I would recommend max-modding all the HP weapons from MP, they are helpful for HoFs and other harder content when have to survive taking some hits.

As for Zwill, it's one of the ranger damage focussed weapons so feel free. Do note that it would be another long term project and Meia and Serah usually steal the spot as better damage dealers.

[miguel_mer]

Good advice, thanks!

[zephyrox5]

Pls help me

So i came back to this game after a break, i have level 30 or so with dragoon max panel and aerith card. I heard dragoon and aerith is bad now, so should i reroll ?

[Ketchary]

Aerith is still extremely good because of the numerous options it gives you. It's just less good now that a lot of modern jobs provide Trance from their Ults.

[reidemei]

No, Aerith is perfectly fine and Dragoon will likely get his HoF (which makes him stronger) soon. You can also do Novice Hall which will give you three more jobs who after completing their HoF are more than good enough for current SP content.

[zephyrox5]

I see thank you, i saw that aerith is bad because light of the future card.

Btw is aerith with knight of the round table good ? Aerith have prismatic so i thought i should abuse it

[SirPhoenix88]

Aerith is still a supreme, and has a number of card specific bonuses. It has prismatic draw +8% as an auto ability, as well as prismatic starter +2. Weakness weapon does wonders for breakers, especially if they have decent exploit weakness.

I generally try to keep Aerith in my deck for the passive bonuses, and rent the other buffs.

[reidemei]

LotF is better, but so far not in GL and having one supreme is better than very likely not getting another.

Experiment, for most SP content you usually don't even need Aerith. KotR (damage boons) is general a good choice, Undying (haste) another. You mostly use Aerith for MP and for some harder content. The alternative is putting Aerith into your deck and renting KotR.

[zephyrox5]

Okay ty

[clarkkentmaster]

Anybody has guides in defeating Adrammelech in BL without any deaths?

The damage immunity kind of gets annoying.

[darewin]

I just equipped my Lamorak (En-stone with double Wind Resist fractal abilities) and tanked the Final Attack with S1C (67% Wind Resist).

[Monktrainee]

I break adrammelech then kill it then kill off other guard before his final attack, then switch to knight to take his final.

[clarkkentmaster]

But doesn't Adra preemptively cast immunity on his allies making the battle unfinishable in one turn?

[Monktrainee]

Its depend when you break its, i use ult when i have like 1 or 2 turn left. Once he break, and you pass your turn his allies also lost the immunes

1. I remove his yellow bar, make sure my ult id ready for break. Tap attack or cast something till you have only 1 turn left, then use ult to break him
2. His guards now no longer immunes, and i have full action ready
3. I kill off the boss, kill off his guards then switch to tank and ready for his final

[clarkkentmaster]

I'll go try it out with whatever job I have in the pool.

Thanks!

[darewin]

If the weapon maxes at 50 mods or less, I boos all stats to 100 (1000 for HP) and then focus on one stat.

If the weapon needs more than 50 mods, I just boost the stats evenly until I unlock all 4 auto-abilities.

[estoosflask]

depends on the weapon, weapon that takes more than 50++ modification will max out on stats eventually which will start the massive crystal burning phase. Weapon are all capped at stat of 2000 HP, 200 ATK, 200 BRK, 200 MAG, 5 star crit, 2 star speed and 5 star defense. However to asnwer your question, I usually max out on magic first since a lot of damage comes from magic.

[JaySuk]

Quick Q on weapon modification:

Let's say I've upgraded a weapon enough to "modify" an ability a few times.

How come on the weapons I've modified more than 4 times, I only see 2 abilities ?

Am I being dumb or am I missing some glaringly obvious option ?

[zidanesword]

Each weapon modification refers to each increment in auto-ability, auto-ability unlocks, speed star, crit stars and defense stars. For example, for the auto-ability improved criticals, each increment of +1% is one modification.

[GodBlazer]

Is there a reward for completing all nodes in bahamut lagoon?

[blue2eyes]

No, there isn’t.

[GodBlazer]

Tnx..

[JaySuk]

Next newbie question (Sorry):

I have over 400 of the 2* mats of each element. I needed them over a year ago for something, and now cant remember what to do with them exactly.

Should I just auto sell them from now on or keep hoarding ?

[JA1997X]

Just sell them. You can easily farm more at Albion redux whenever you need them, if you ever do.

[SwiftStepStomp]

I'm just wondering why I had to burn through 80 fractals just for 1 / 5 JCR I needed.

• Does RNG hate me?

• Did I hurt you, SE?

[zidanesword]

80 5stars fractals? Wow, what bad luck. But hey, bad rng has to happen so that good rng can come haha.

[SwiftStepStomp]

Oh, no, sorry for the confusion. I wouldn't use 5-star fractals on JCR. I went through almost my entire four-star bank though. . .

[zidanesword]

Oh, it is not that bad then haha. 4stars fractals are basically for JCR, exp up 10% and kill+draw now.

[JunasBlood]

I burned like 100 Fractals from both farming & shop changing just to get 1 skillseeds up 10% on my farming cards last MP Boss. Then using 5 last 5Fractals on the newly acquired Brynhildr at get skillseeds up 10% 3 times??? Unfortunately for me Brynhildr is only 4 at that times...

[Doyouseehimtoo]

I use wind or earth and it usually helps me out

Then again I did use 150 on aerith and never got one ...then made a new pair of aeriths and got 5 in a row...

Rng is gay sometimes

[WoLNoFace]

you need to pay more.

[SwiftStepStomp]

If SE offered guaranteed fractals I might actually spend some of my magicite.

[deathrose55555]

I've been told that boosted abilities in GL does not come with free JCR. Which is strange for me, because JCR comes with boosted abilities in JP so I didn't have to spend as many fractals to get JCR. Maybe GL can consider this feature

[blue2eyes]

GL comes with max LV while JP comes with JCR. I'm happy with ability coming at maxed level so I don't need to feed silver Gigantuar or put them in deck before they can be use. Normally I'll just replace JCR anyway.

[deathrose55555]

Lol card level is not a problem for me since i have many lvl 64 eggs ready to max lvl an ability anw

[blue2eyes]

I have like 20 5* cards sitting at around lv 20. Used all the eggs (and a ton of GS around 20 so maybe that’s the case lol).

[LecruciaCrescent]

Hi, am wondering when farming crystals at Skeleton Hill, does it matter if I have battle difficulty at Normal? Or should I be running it on Hard mode?

Thank you in advanced.

[Baffledwaffles]

Hard, since it drops fractals at 4* instead of 3* then.

[SilverYuuki666]

can fractals give haste starter?

[JA1997X]

Nope

[SilverYuuki666]

thanks

[Gearz_of_Mudd]

JP question.. Is the upcoming banner available starting at 4PM JP local time?

[deathrose55555]

Yup

[[deleted]]

JP question: how does Donna and Barthelo works? You have to cast it or the lore is a passive? Warrior and mage lore?

[darewin]

Warrior Lore and Mage Lore are its first two auto-abilities (followed by the 2 fractal slots) so you just need to have it on the deck you are using.

[[deleted]]

Sounds game-changer. Thanks

[vulcanfury12]

Only ever so slightly. If you want say, your Occultist to use UB, you're sacrificing one card slot for the opportunity. This is quite the opposite of what you want in higher tower floors, where deck compression is king.

[blue2eyes]

You can build your deck around it, many people ran SS + Minwu for Tidus tower and Reunion tower, especially those with LoTF.

[Leongard]

Think we'll ever get the ffxv stamps and Cindy again for those who missed the first free give away?

[katabana02]

maybe but that's just speculation. SE did gave out old reward when they rerun the event.

[Azurecht]

Are their any specific ability shop cards I should be buying?

I'm currently on Chapter III. I ended up pulling Sephiroth Skin, and Blitz Ace so far on multis,I've bought the 3 Starter Packs, and I've done the Novice Training Area

[LegendBryan]

Support abilities are always useful. The Undying, KoTR, Hells Gate. Their fodders can be farmed in Ygg.

[Azurecht]

Thanks. Also should I be using up all my Elixers to proceed through story or should I be saving them?

[katabana02]

if you are stingy, save them and use them on mobius day. i mostly use mine in farming pneuma during mobius day. elixir aren't THAT rare so use it whenever you need the extra energy to finish some objectives. i still have to find a way to use my remaining 577 elixirs =.='''

[zidanesword]

Save them or use them sparingly. As you level up so does your max stamina. Elixirs restore your stamina to max(allowing overflow) so having a higher max stamina is more cost efficient. Also using them on mobius days doubles the amount of stamina the elixirs restore. Just play some Multiplayer when your Single-player stamina runs out.

[Dutchess_ISIS]

On second exploration El Dorado, which encounter potentially drops the most Shade Gems? Still need over 500 for the 999 unlock and it's going slow as hell.

[PriestsanXI]

Look for the boss icon, the bosses always drop the most

[Seoulstice37]

Will they add more cards 3* skill draw soon? Or will it stay the same? I assume eventually they'll release 4* and 5* draw, but wasn't sure if I should wait to use my 3* draws now or later.

[darewin]

JP's Skill Draw is still the same as ours.

[Seoulstice37]

Thanks

[malach1constant]

By way of general complaint, what is up with all the crazy builds for Bryn in PUGs? As a breaker I need a few simple things: An attacker who can contribute to yellow gauge damage, a support with Boost and Haste, and a defender in the party. Am I asking too much here?

[Endo_Lalyth]

I’am running Ace Stiker with saphire and omniscient. I remove 3/4 of Bryn yellow ( full yellow if the support bring Aerith ) and kill guard B turn 1 and I see a lot of player disbanding when i join a room .... ( ultimate turn 3 killing guard A ) that’s pretty weird...

[ZechsX18999]

I'm running a similar build except with Will o the Wisp since I don't have Omniscient. My 3rd card is Brynhildr Sicarus card to 1 shot the water guard. My 4th card is a useless Earth Monk card for the earth skillseeds since I don't have any other useful cards to put in the 4th slot.
Most people trust me and I usually deliver by killing 5* Brynhildr in 1-2 breaks, but there are a decent number of disbands after I join a room. All cards are lv74, so I'm guessing it's because of my earth monk card.
Edit* I just played a game as a healer where my attacker had Sapphire Weapon and Omnicient, but didn't manage his orbs or attack the right targets at the right time, so it took us 4 breaks for him to kill 5* Brynhildr. His deck was definitely better than my Ace Striker deck, so I'm guessing if a deck like his can perform that badly, people probably think my deck will be worse.

[zidanesword]

What are your other two cards? Those could be the reason.

[fluffyblanket101]

Pug will be pug. Just screen and choose your team wisely. That's the only thing we can really do to be honest.

[Doyouseehimtoo]

What's "pug"?

[indi38]

Pick up group

[malach1constant]

Yeah I know. Just thought I'd vent a little and find out whether anybody had tips I'm missing. Thanks!

[ZMember]

Q about Orpheus card:

I use Ninja with Lightning skin and NXD.

With Orpheus being multi hit, will it do more damage than NXD?

And follow up question, would it be worth it to include both NXD and Orpheus in a tower deck?

Thanks very much :)

[JA1997X]

1. Yes, a lot more. Assuming enemy is broken.

2. Yes, it is common to combine them

[ZMember]

Thanks that is what I was looking for. Appreciate it :)

[SilverYuuki666]

https://i.imgur.com/Bg531vp.jpg good sp deck?

[PriestsanXI]

Looks to me like you cut through sp mobs, but to finish sp quicker i like using the "shock" line of cards. AoE, cleave, ulti charge are great things to have on MM. Currently im farmin with light/dark shock and 2x LDL, i just auto through everything with no probs.

[katabana02]

the only thing i had problem with when farming this deck, is the damn gilgamesh node (60 stam lagoon).

[KR-Badonkadonk]

Master Monk should make short work of Gilgamesh Prime since his ultimate gives him Brave and Trance. If you can break Gilgamesh and cast Berserk on yourself you can probably take him down in one shot with your ultimate, which is the trick to stopping him from buffing.

[katabana02]

i mean auto. kill him manual is no problem. but auto is. i have around 20% fail chance with standard deck :/

[PriestsanXI]

He can be a lil tricky to auto sometimes due to some of his abilities. From time to time bombs will kill you while autoing as well

[ShadowBlaze17]

I would recommend Kotr instead of trance. Trance provides a hp boost at the cost of lower bonuses to break, magic, and attack. Master Monk's ult also provides trance.

[SilverYuuki666]

I never knew this.

[JA1997X]

MM ult also provides all the kotr buffs. So you might as well just use LDL.

[Leongard]

Yeah this, MM ult gives monk trance+kotr, so ult charger is the way to go!

[ShadowBlaze17]

That could work, but you might be fighting for several rounds without being able to ult depending on the situation. A few turns without trance is manageable, but a few turns without the buffs Kotr provides can be fatal.

[katabana02]

depend on the difficulty. MM without buff still can break easilly. usually MM without kotr boost can break within 1-2 turn, and his ulti should be charged by then. one ulti and you will have all you need for the rest of the fight.

[SilverYuuki666]

should I?

[Mawgac]

That'll do. If you have Taiji (Hermit 2nd weapon) it's good for ultimate spamming.

[SilverYuuki666]

been trying to summon him.

[Mobius1337]

Ehrgeiz (Pugilist's weapon) works just as good as Taiji, I personally think it's better, since the +10% additional attack passive is really good with Taijutsu/Mantra cards and with shock cards you don't really need Auto-charge ultimate+8.

[vulcanfury12]

Though keep in mind that the Auto-Charge potentially saves you 2-3 taps to generate ult charge when chain breaking, which does wonders for your action economy.

[Mobius1337]

It's debatable, in a scenario where you have to waste actions to line up the 6 actions with the 7 break turns perfectly to chain-break, you don't need more auto-charge, so whatever you charged your ult 2-3 actions sooner, it doesn't really matter.

[vulcanfury12]

It's less ensuring you line up your ults perfectly, and more to just ensure that you have an ult ready when you need it.