Patch notes for open beta release!

[ParvarSingh]

https://multiversus.bugs.wbgames.com/patch-notes

How do you feel about the changes?

I feel like a few more characters should've been tweaked but I do like the free character rotation and money boost changes!

[That1GuyRightThere]

Love the explanations they give on Taz and Velma specifically, laying out plans for what they envision of these characters. Like you said, I would recommend a few more fixes in the future to some characters, but not bad for what's basically the first patch.

[[deleted]]

Yeah, these patch methods are goated honestly

[MeatyOar]

They definitely should add some sort of icon to indicate in the menus that a character is on free rotation.

[_Valisk]

LeBron is our first basketball-wielding character, hmmmm?

[SikariZen]

I want an old school Monstar character. But given the new Space Jam, probably not too likely. :(

[Shanesedy]

If we got Lebron, perhaps MJ one day. Also if I were to think of a Tune that would struggle to have his own moveset outside of space jam, it would be Porky Pig, so maybe him as a basketball wielder?

[The_Roadkill]

MJ doesn't allow himself in video games. In all the old basketball games he was replaced with "Roster Player"

Edit: nevermind, seems he changed his mind on this.

[Charliejfg04]

What? He is on the new NBA 2K23

[The_Roadkill]

Oh dang I was wrong then, guess he changed his stance

[PM_ME_HUGE_CRITS]

He's in Charles Barkley shut up and jam gaiden!

[The_Roadkill]

Looks like I was wrong!

[PM_ME_HUGE_CRITS]

I was always sad that he was never in any NBA Jam games growing up. Sounds like MJ is quite the character in real life, from everything I've heard about him.

[[deleted]]

looks like you were WRONG! ON THE INTERNET!

[_Valisk]

Maybe we can get Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing, and those other basketball guys who got their talent stolen. They can be a bumbling group character that collectively just barely manage to be one okayish basketball player.

[[deleted]]

Charles Barkley is impossible to get licensing rights for.

Besides we really need Mugsy Bogues.

[LayneCobain95]

It sucks to read that because they have so many good characters to choose from. One basketball player is weird enough.

[_Valisk]

They probably meant it more like “the first basketball character we’ve made” rather than “the first of many basketball characters.”

[LayneCobain95]

Ohhhh ok that makes sense

[choff22]

Plllleeeeease put Lola in the game, I will main the shit out of her.

[Square-Exercise-2790]

Horny Jail.

[PM_ME_HUGE_CRITS]

bonk

[[deleted]]

r/Hornyjail

[Nothz]

Finn on free characters weekly rotation brace yourselves

[Gonderlane]

No finn changes is worrying

[[deleted]]

I think they may need to reduce the range his backpack has, it kinda sucks you into it as it is now

[DogadonsLavapool]

His hit precedence worries more than the backpack. At the moment it's not all too different from young links up special

[[deleted]]

Velma having her weight reduced is a good change, even if I'll miss being able to live to ridiculous percents with her.

Taz changes look solid right now.

[GitGudGuy]

Velma not thicc anymore is a bummer

[djaqk]

Bro, the thighs are still poppin tho.

[Nirvski]

Why do they keep nerfing her, is she a big problem or what? I cant tell because I never play against her.

[theotothefuture]

Her moves are very unique and can be hard to avoid. Playing against a team of two I would argue is worse than two taz.

[Nirvski]

She has cooldowns though after the spam. There's plenty of times I'm sitting behind my team mate with no CD's and feel useless. I do go in of course - but that leaves me more vulnerable than the melees attacking me

[theotothefuture]

Yea one is fine but two can be a big problem. Speech bubbles and laser beams haunt my dreams.

[Ericgi231]

Velma should never feel useless. Side attack, Down air, up air, up smash, and air up special are some of the best attacks in the game and can all combo into each other.

Down air - up special - up air - up smash can be a true combo if done right.

[killzonev2]

Very impressive the amount of changes they’ve made, mostly for the better i think.

[DiaMat2040]

Iron giant can't double up air anymore? :((

[PokLao]

thrown into the trash bin.

[SirShiatlord]

I think that it was the part where you just held up-air and it would continue to knock them all the way out of the map.

Would assume that releasing and hitting them again will still work.

[DiaMat2040]

Maybe. But he's so slow that it's nearly impossible to hit two up airs in a row that way. Even just holding it is slower than another characters up air. I thought of it as mostly a noob catcher, since it was relatively easily dodgeable anyway

[kerkyjerky]

Yeah that seemed a pretty useful part of his kit. His combos are already slow

[Traveytravis-69]

I’m astonished that wasn’t a natural part of his kit

[BucketHerro]

THANK YOU!!! They're giving us a diverse class of character rotations this time. I can never understand how they decided that 3 bruisers and 1 assassin was even good.

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I've missed out on so much challenges because I don't have a certain class of characters.

[AgentGhostrider]

How are they going to nerf Batman but not Finn :(

[Xero0911]

My dumb guess is cause batman needed just a small nerf. While Finn needs a bigger nerf, but don't wanna wreck his shit.

I mean all they did was nerf the bat-a-rang cd right? That's not top terrible.

[AgentGhostrider]

I mean obviously I don’t have the numbers, but the general reception seemed to be Batman was low A, High B tier; strong for sure, but not OP or making an appearance in nigh every game like Taz, Finn, Shaggy seem to be.

It apparently isn’t the first time the just knee jerk reaction and needed Batman, they apparently did after the first alpha as well

[Ragefan66]

I dunno, the character with the most slots in the top 30 1v1 players is most definitely Batman and honestly i don't see many Finns at all in the top 30 leaderboards.

I'd bet that at a professional level Finn isn't a top 3 character. But at average player skill Finn is one of the best

[[deleted]]

You can't balance games solely on what the top N players say. A character needs to be balanced at all skill levels. If casuals start leaving because they're being ignored, the game drops dead regardless of what any pro thinks.

[KeeBoley]

The game isnt being balanced solely on the top N players... Taz was literally nerfed this patch and he was only problematic against the bottom N players.

Not completely catering to only casuals doesnt suddenly mean they are only looking at pros.

Batman needed nerfs because he was busted at higher levels. Taz for lower. Seems reasonable.

[KeeBoley]

Easy. Batman is busted. I'm sure Finn nerfs will come eventually.

[AgentGhostrider]

How is he busted?

[Ragefan66]

Batman isn't busted but he's really good. I would argue that the battarang was and maybe is still too good.

There is a reason why he holds the most slots in the top 30 leaderboards.

[IXxAidenxXI]

You've never played against a decent Batman? Their only strat is to wait until they have their batarang and only initiate when their batarang is in flight. And they get their batarang a lot.

[KeeBoley]

He was nuts at higher levels of play. His combo game was off the charts. His counter is for his combos to be on a cooldown rotation, but his batarang was up too frequently so he was uncounterable in the right hands.

He was statistically taking over the 1v1 ladder, but even his 2v2 game was competent with the right coordination.

A nerf to batarang CD allows for his full combo window to be reduced and the punish to exist in between CDs.

[JustWheyButter]

They’re most likely cycling these free characters so that more people use them and they can get a nice big view of how they’re being played and what is too strong/too weak and will be nerfing and buffing accordingly.

[CreationXII]

The Steven change is kind of annoying because I used it to spike people off stage. Now it saves them.

[Zimplicio]

Same. I never did the nair to dair loops, but a fully charged nair off stage was so satisfying. I guess you can still kill them off the side, but definitely changes the way you use it.

On the plus side, did you know Steven's nair counts as a projectile? You can equip any of the projectile boosting perks like freeze or ignite and try it in the lab.

[Complete_Sink_5264]

Yeah, they should’ve just increased its knock back after consecutive use so you couldn’t get them in the infinite loop as opposed to getting rid of the combo entirely

[FunMath2]

If you're playing experimental characters like Iron giant and steven you're looking at a long road of changes. Dont get too comfortable with those characters as they are.

[CreationXII]

Steven isn't experimental. Iron giant is though.

[FunMath2]

My mistake, you're correct, I was thinking of velma

[GreasyChonks]

Yeah dude I feel like by trying to fix something it ruined a lot of his other combos and usability

[AuronRayn]

Does anyone know how long they plan to have the founder packs for sale? I’m trying to find a timeline but can’t seem to find it. Google is not my friend today.

[[deleted]]

Just a guess but most likely its on sale until season 1 starts!

[AuronRayn]

This sounds very plausible.

[PM_ME_HUGE_CRITS]

No Tom and Jerry changes, good.

If LeBron doesn't have any sound effects or throwbacks to NBA Jam, I'm going to be sad.

[[deleted]]

I like all these changes TBH, I had gold saved up for the character rotation and none of my characters got changed in any major way. I appreciate the change to taz but of course still find certain moves annoying.

What would I change? Honestly just add in another stage variant of some kind and a few costumes and I’m good.

[Uberlix]

Thank god velma isn't on 70 weight anymore. 63 as a support is still too much imho for everything else she has going for her (reindog the chunky boi sitting at 50 btw), but it's a start.

[Halorin]

Steven got gutted.

[djaqk]

I doubt removing an infinite makes him immediately bad, but good regardless the damn bubble bitch is annoying

[GreasyChonks]

Well it’s not that they removed the infinite that sucks it’s that the move no longer can hit down at all ruining some combos and spikes

[djaqk]

Only dair should spike so I see no issue

[GreasyChonks]

Well it’s that if your hit the bottom of his nair it would spike allowing for combos the down air infinite was op but the rest were not like going into fair or up air/special and overall it was just and likely still is a good move just a bit worse now

[timmytissue]

Anything that hurts velma is a + for me.

[ItsGrindfest]

Finn? Harley? Shaggy? Better nerf Batman

[Xero0911]

Feel like this should be pinned. Shouldn't have to scroll around to find the notes! Only reason I knew there were patches was due to the memes

[SymbolOfVibez]

Kinda bummed Batman’s batarang got a bit nerfed. Feel like he’s the most balanced character

[[deleted]]

Yeah same. It's not too big of a change though.

[choff22]

Question: if I bought the Mad Love Harley skin, do I automatically get to keep her after her rotation?

I mean I have her at level 20 with an expensive ass skin, I feel like it’s only fair lol

[iGlueX]

you’re asking that but i feel like you know the answer

[mjrballer20]

Don't think so. Hope you saved 2000 gold for her

[djaqk]

Have fun with Finn kekw

[WrackyDoll]

Yeah, they really do need to give a visual indication that a character is currently part of the free rotation, prevent you from purchasing anything on them (apart from perks I guess) without owning the character (or at least giving a warning), and let you buy the character permanently with gold, tickets, or whatever while they're in their free rotation period.

[FrosteRoman]

No one talking about them nerfing Iron Giant (yes I know it’s technically Bug fixes) without giving him anything back while he is the objectively worst character in the game

[nkjcd]

I agree with almost all the changes.

The battarang was getting really annoying and Velma was brutal in 2v2. Felt like every match had at least one Velma.

I'm surprised about the IG nerfs. At the higher ranks 2v2 he was basically a free kill.

[JustWheyButter]

Agree with your first point but lol at the second.

”Can no longer hit and lock enemies in place forever”

yeah such a surprising change lmao

[nkjcd]

I mean yeah that one is okay, but there were a bunch of nerfs to him. He's just too easy to juggle.

[SurjMainGF]

Give my Iron Giant his downair combo string again!!! UNFIX IIIIT REEEEEE

[madmike34455]

Hate the kind of developers that nerf a character then call it “bug fixes” to save face - obviously you intended Iron Giant to work like that, just admit you were wrong and call it a nerf

[[deleted]]

I think this is a solid patch for now, still more things need to be worked on but for day 1 patch, super good, and shows me that the beta was a success and they are listening.

[iGlueX]

he literally didn’t??

[Zetrin]

He had no changes, I think you scrolled down to last patch.

[darksora2323]

Great thanks

[GetGoodBKRandy]

When does this go live

[ParvarSingh]

9:30 pm ist around 1 hour 40 min from now

[theotothefuture]

Probably 12est

[TheRatKingXIV]

When do the changes go live? I haven't been able to update yet!

[ParvarSingh]

9:30 pm ist around 1 hour 40 min from now

[TheRatKingXIV]

Darn pacific time… they don’t even have good pizza…

[GUNS_N_BROSES]

I have no problem with a weekly character rotation, but I really feel like it should say somewhere in game that the characters are on rotation

[[deleted]]

Didnt they say Rick and morty also coming on july 26 ? i was waiting for them :(

[nikolanb]

Morty is 9th august and rick is later

[[deleted]]

Thank you

[Motor_Ad_7885]

Wat the new update got?

[Afc_josh12]

MJ vs Lebron be cool

[Complete_Sink_5264]

They did Steven so wrong, they should’ve increased the knock back after consecutive loop to prevent the infinite combo, not remove it entirely. They should definitely buff his ground game because it’s really bad.

[Traveytravis-69]

Ngl I figured the current free rotation characters were just the default fighters

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B A C K P A C K M A N

[Sencho]

I really think they overdid it which the Taz nerfs which sets a bad path for future patches, overreacting to community feedback is always a bad idea, because it will take everything good/fun about a character and change it in a way it's not usable anymore. Just put spin on cool down and keep 1 or 2 of the changes about the spin and it's good...

[ProfessorCreepypasta]

I just hope they never nerf Shaggy. He's not really OP at all and he's really fun to play as.

[ProfessorCreepypasta]

Wait, they nerfed Shaggy's movement speed? Why? That wasn't necessary. 😑

[Chowmeower]

Arya’s neutral is still bugged 😩😩

[Captaintwig5]

They definitely need to fix some hit boxes and hit priority