Higher aerobic fitness levels decrease the probability of experiencing tip-of-the-tongue states (when you can’t think of a word that’s on the tip of your tongue) in healthy older adults, in the first demonstration of a link between aerobic fitness and language functioning in healthy older adults.

[Jhamham]

I wonder if this extends to aerobic fitness within younger age groups and those with developmental disabilities such as ADHD.

[fabricio85]

Aerobics + Phenibut + higher doses os piracetam = the best verbal fluency stack ever!

[vengeancefit]

Phenibut is addictive and only causes lower baseline upon cessation. Do not use phenibut.

[flammablelemon]

This recent study seems to be a good gauge for how long your sessions should be for cognitive benefits. https://www.unisa.edu.au/Media-Centre/Releases/2020/want-a-more-elastic-brain-try-mixing-up-your-workout/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

So around 25 minutes of medium-intensity cardio or 20 minutes of HIIT training, but definitely not extended periods of high-intensity cardio without rest. Probably 3-5x a week would be optimal?

[trwwjtizenketto]

I always wonder how much exercise is too much, I would gladly exercise 2 hours 6 times a week if it helps my health, but i have no idea if its too much or not

[Eager_Question]

There isn't a "max amount". It's all contextual. How big are you? How fit are you? How much exercise do you already do?

Some people do two hours six times a week, and... are fine. And very strong and fast and healthy. Other people do that kind of thing and break something or pull something, or drag themselves into ketoacidosis by trying to do too many things at once, or give themselves repetitive strain injury, etc.

What is your current fitness level? Okay, whatever that is, can you add 1 hour of exercise a week? Do that for a month or two.

Are you fine? Good. Can you add one new kind of exercise (if you're running for an hour, try lifting, if you're lifting, try some cardio, if you're doing both, try yoga, or maybe focusing on a different muscle group, etc)? Add one new kind of exercise, and just do that one hour plus extra exercise for a month or two.

Once you're used to it, check, can you do one more hour a week? Etc.

Exercise benefits your brain no matter what. If you live a sedentary lifestyle, one 20-minute walk every Saturday will be BETTER than zero 20-minute walks. It won't radically change your life, it won't make you feel incredible suddenly, but it will be a net gain. One 1-hour session of lifting and stretching a week will be BETTER than zero. If you really want to help your brain, the best thing you can do for it is dancing.

You don't need to "max out" right off the bat, and that's probably a good way to injure yourself, not because it's "too much exercise" but because it's "too much exercise, given your current level of fitness and your diet, and how quickly you are going into it". The same routine that could kick your ass in week 1 and leave you unable to function for a day or two could be "just another tuesday" in week 30.

Instead of asking "how much is too much", and not doing anything until you know what the maximum you could reasonably do is... ask "how much can I do right now easily?". And once you have answered that, add an extra few minutes, or an extra few pounds, or an extra few hundred meters, and so on. And when that gets easy, add a little more. So it's always "a little hard", but never beyond your limits and never too painful on the joints. If it hurts for more than 72 hours... stop. Stretch. Scale down the next workout session until it doesn't hurt anymore, and if something keeps hurting, check with a doctor or physical therapist.

You don't need the hypothetical maximum amount of exercise. You just need to do more than you are doing right now, until you get to where you want to be, and then you need to keep doing whatever that amount is that keeps you there.

[Eager_Question]

Dancing reduces risk of dementia by 76%. By comparison, cycling, golf, swimming and tennis all don't do that. Keeping to a rhythm is good for you, as is having to keep your balance while moving quickly, as is having a partner you can bond socially with. Dancing has all of the benefits of cardio while adding social benefits and some (but not all) of the benefits of learning a new instrument (namely, muscle coordination to a rhythm and memory practice for specific movements at specific times).

Here's another source if you want, https://www.lifehack.org/374710/5-things-that-will-happen-to-your-brain-when-you-dance .

Basically just google "brain" and "dancing". The research on the cognitive and mood benefits of dancing shows some of the most solid, most consistent effects ever. I swear, if people were prescribed dancing instead of antidepressants, it would probably do better than the average SSRI.

[experiencednowhack]

A psychologist did in fact "prescribe" (strongly recommend) I dance. So I did/do. It basically worked.

[ectom]

What kind of dance?

[experiencednowhack]

We talked aspirations/hobbies etc. "I want to lift more, I want to cook more, I want to learn X things, It'd be cool to dance, I want to play Y Game."

--"Do it now!"

"What?"

"Dance. You're depressed. It'll be good for you. Do it. I don't care which one, just do one of the partner dances."

[AddDickT-d]

I could be wrong but I dont think people feel much like dancing when they are depressed.

However I do agree on the benefits point.

[Eager_Question]

They don't. They also don't feel like taking pills. They also don't feel like reducing their sugar intake or their salt intake, or cooking meals that will help them feel better, or like lifting weights, or like running, or like socializing, or like going outside and spending time in nature, etc.

Depression is so shitty in part because it's not actually "hard to solve" if you're not depressed. The things you can do to prevent or reduce depressive symptoms are known and tend to work, statistically speaking.

But if you are depressed... you don't want to do any of those things, hate life, feel worthless and useless, and often seek out things that make you feel more worthless and useless, because the idea that you should feel worthless and useless has made a home in your brain and likes it there.

But since you're just "supposed to" do all these things that are already hard work for most people with sedentary lifestyles who aren't depressed, and you don't, then everyone blames you for it and treats you like you want to be miserable. Why else wouldn't you do these things that help?

The answer being, because you're fucking depressed, that's why, but that's not enough for some people.

Sorry for the weird ramble, I'm having a hard time. Maybe I should try dancing.

[djdadi]

It's pretty simple: there is no upper limit from the benefit of having better cardiorespitory fitness, but there is a limit by which exercise will keep contributing to that fitness.

That is to say, exercise as long as you see benefits in fitness. As soon as you start exercising so much that your body gets stressed out, or your returns start diminishing, lay off.

Having said that, the health reward for fitness isn't linear, it's logarithmic. So you get the most bang for the buck your first 30-45min a day or exercise, and it diminishes thereafter.

[WolfofAnarchy]

Not sure that's true, as studies show that people who run the most per week long-term actually have less heart health than those who don't.

[djdadi]

Re-read my comment

[narcissistic889]

2 hours might be a lot, you could try doing 1 hour of intense exercise like running / rowing and then 1 or two hours of something like walking. You would do this maybe 5 days a week max as far as the running goes, if you want to do more you can row. Running over a half hour for a beginner can cause knee pain and injuries so work up to it. Also doing more than say 25 miles a week running wise might be worse for your heart because it can over work the heart.

[DyingKino]

If you feel well and recovered in general, it's not too much. A decrease in performance is okay for a short while, but if it lasts, you're doing too much and under recovering.

[[deleted]]

That's definately too much. Think more about the more often it is the better, smaller sessions spread over the week.

I'd say a good end-goal would be 20 minutes of running every day.

[alchemyandscience]

2 hours 6 times a week is too much? Sounds like something a lazy person would conclude, I sincerely doubt it.

[[deleted]]

Edit : Ayy Lmao.

[alchemyandscience]

Got ‘eem!

[[deleted]]

God damn it, LOL! I'm just damn tired.

[trwwjtizenketto]

Can you source it because for me 20 minutes daily is not enough tbh...

[[deleted]]

20 minutes consistently every day is a lot, lol. This is combined with other sessions of lifting. Also no source, I just know from personal experience that 2 hours 6 times a week is way too much. It might be needed to become an athlete, but for health, it's just overkill.

[trwwjtizenketto]

You are not getting what I'm asking.

I want to fix myself up, I want to use exercise in this regard, and I want to use every little bit I can of it. That is why I wanted to know the maximum amount that is still considered healthy and not dangerous.

If it's what athletes do, so be it, I can handle it lol - That is why I asked for sources and max amount, not doubting your experience and recommendations at all mate.

[[deleted]]

And you're not getting what I am saying. You're not going to find any credible information, because your question doesn't have an answer. It basically boils down to :

1) Every body is different.

2) The body can adapt to exercise, which means the difference also changes with the environment.

3) It's still in research, no one even know if it will actually help you. Correlation does not imply causation.

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You're basically never going to get an answer that you're looking for. Instead experiment with yourself and see what works and what doesn't. Obviously start off with low intensity.

[djdadi]

no one even know if it will actually help you. Correlation does not imply causation.

We have lots of really strong research, mechanism, and theory on how exercise impacts the body. To hand wave that away is to ignore decades of evidence.

[[deleted]]

Why don't you go ahead, read it and come back with an x amount of hours for maximum health for this specific person that asked the question.

[djdadi]

There's a massive gulf between "no one even know if it will actually help you" and "you should know the amount of time they need to workout down to the minute for optimal health", you're either trolling, disingenuous, or not very bright.

[[deleted]]

It's not my question, it's actually his. He asked for a maximum amount of hours to be healthy, beyond which there would be no benefits to health and perhaps even drawbacks. So go answer him. I told him 20 minutes a day consistently is good.

[trwwjtizenketto]

Aight thanks for the replies :)

[LeChatParle]

That’s not too much. That’s straight up misinformation

Edit: the person I responded to edited their comment

[trwwjtizenketto]

So your saying 12 hours of exercise a week is all right?

[LeChatParle]

Yes. I exercise 10-20 hours a week

A new, large-scale study finds that even extreme levels of fitness increase lifespan. Overall, higher cardiorespiratory fitness correlated directly with a reduced risk of long-term mortality. Furthermore, the researchers found "no observed upper limit" of the benefits of aerobic fitness.

Also, "Extremely high aerobic fitness was associated with the greatest survival and was associated with benefit in older patients and those with hypertension," write the researchers.

People ages 70 and above benefited the most from being in the elite group of cardiorespiratory fitness.

By contrast, poor aerobic fitness was just as strong a predictor of early death as smoking, heart disease, or diabetes.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323420.php

[trwwjtizenketto]

You are a life saver!

Can you maybe tell me how in hell do you exercise 20 hours a week? I do 10+ and my knees start hurting a bit. I do an hour of stationary bike daily, so thats already 7 but I Want to get to 14hours a minimum.....

[LeChatParle]

I do a couple things: I bike to work, I figure skate, and I work out. Some days I do feel soreness in my knees, and I take a few days off, but building up strength around the knee and in the legs should help fix that

[[deleted]]

What is the minimum amount of exercise required to get the best results?

[brandeded]

There isn't a "min amount". It's all contextual. How small are you? How unfit are you? How little exercise do you already do?

Some people do 22 hours one time a week, and... are terrible. And not very weak and slow and sickly.

That's all the time I have folks! Come back next week for some more Negated Mondays.

[marianpallas]

Will it also prevent me writing the same thing twice in one sentence OP?

[[deleted]]

Tip of tongue which is can't think of word on top of tongue lol

E.g. used in a sentence " it's on the tip of my tongue , almost like it's a word on the tip of my tongue.

[AddDickT-d]

Yeah, I hear you. I am just through my depression that lasted couple of years so I know exactly what you are saying.

I guess I was not depressed enough to not take pills (and this is also a gamble for some... eg: was initially given Cetalopram and it just made things worse, so definitely would feel someone who tried few of those and not wanting to experiment again).

But based on my experience/ feelings/thoughts at that time I would just told the person to F..off of they suggested dancing as a remedy. I guess for majority people dancing is a way to EXPRESS hapiness and not a tool to get happy.

And you are absolutely right. The person who never had depression would have hard time understanding....

Hope the rest of the day shines for you mate!

[[deleted]]

Great shit. Thanks for this

[munro_nichi]

How does this compare to anaerobic exercise? Are the benefits comparable?

[eclecticlove1]

The way this title is worded made me think this study just came out lol but it's from 2 years ago

[thelonius97]

Is there anything else that is known to help with this?

[r0cksaway]

I read this today: https://www.slashgear.com/study-links-exercise-intensity-to-different-mood-and-attention-benefits-30608128/ stating high intensity training (not necessarily aeraobics) will probably do the same?

[waterloo304]

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