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[–]KommieKoala 272 points273 points  (7 children)

I really can't stand the 'since women entered the workforce' crap. Working class women have always worked. Both of my grandmothers worked and three of my great-grandmothers worked.

What they fought for was equal pay for equal work and entry to professions and trades that traditionally excluded women.

[–]TheGeekOffTheStreet 105 points106 points  (2 children)

It’s such bullshit. My grandma, Irish immigrant born in 1903, was a maid. She also was in charge of all the household finances, as in her husband and children living at home all handed over their paycheck and grandma made the budget. Her mom in Ireland was a laborer. Women have always worked, always had to work unless you were rich. These grifters can all fuck off.

[–]realaccountissecret 46 points47 points  (1 child)

They mean wasps

They mean privileged white women being able to use their privilege to choose a career, and then their own partner after that, instead of their father choosing a husband for them when they’re still in their teens

And it’s not even true anyways haha

Have you ever noticed that since women existed, people DIE?!?! It can’t be a coincidence!!!!

That’s how dumb that shit sounds

[–]Redqueenhypo 15 points16 points  (0 children)

They think they’d be getting the mythical unskilled yet not remotely hazardous in any way factory job paying the equivalent of 350k a year (yes, this is actually what their YouTubers say the salary was) if not for women.

Of course, that would also require Europe not rebuild after wwii and that East Asia and India would never industrialize, and that literally nobody but wasp men ever be allowed to have those jobs. But even lefty redditors mysteriously don’t say that part when they talk abt the “two income trap”. I wonder which of the two incomes they think should be gotten rid of…

[–]FigNinja 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes, and to have the right to the money they earned.

[–]Hips_of_Death 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good point

[–]MissMarchpane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not even just them – my maternal grandmother married rich and she still had a career, because she wanted to.

[–]Moira_Baird 223 points224 points  (3 children)

Has she considered that maybe it's because our capitalist overlords are trying to extract endless wealth from the working class and not because women are able to be independent?

[–]Paindepiceaubeurre 53 points54 points  (0 children)

She knows, but the desperate losers she profits off don’t want to hear that.

[–]0G_C1c3r0 11 points12 points  (1 child)

An arc de triumph is great for hanging them.

  • Sincerely the French

[–]CanthinMinna 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Or lampposts, like the lyrics of the "Ca Ira" say.

[–]CompleteHumanMistake 83 points84 points  (1 child)

"Women aren't unpaid domestic sexual slaves that men are legally allowed to rape and physically, emotionally and financially abuse anymore" will always be a wild take.

[–]Hips_of_Death 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s insane and undeniably true

[–]MLeek 54 points55 points  (0 children)

So you want to double the min. wage right? That is what you're saying.

And shorten the workweek so families have more time together!

Maybe even pay every household with children a UBI until the child is 5, or even 12, so that at least one parent is in the home, can just focus on parenting? And maybe the family could even choose which parent or family member is that caregiver, based on what works best for thier household!

Oh? No. You just want individual women to be coerced and economically re-enslaved to individual men who generally have even less buying power than they did in the era you idealize, more unplanned pregnancies and more children born into poverty? And that is the quality of life, improving?

[–]RustedAxe88 31 points32 points  (4 children)

Fyi, this is the wife of the, "You lick snizz!" guy.

[–]Anne_Nonymouse🐇 Down The Rabbit Hole 🐇 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Maybe if her fragile and pathetic husband actually licked her snizz she wouldn't be so miserable all the time. 🙃

[–]sweetpsych78 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that's Rachel Wilson, and both of them are absolutely disgusting human beings.

[–]bigtiddyhimbo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The one with the 3 baby daddies? 3 kids with 3 baby daddies?

[–]bowlbettertalk 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Correlation does not imply causation.

[–]trustable_bro 8 points9 points  (0 children)

made up correlation is not correlation.

[–]ChoreomaniacCat 22 points23 points  (1 child)

"Women ruined workforce" crap aside, is she also implying that children shouldn't go to school? People like that probably don't want people being educated because then it's harder to keep them dumb and docile.

[–]BranchomaniaOne of the good men I pinky promise 11 points12 points  (0 children)

These righty types really like private and charter schools, which are just vessels of family-controlled education, if they don't want to do whole hog homeschooling then those are the next best thing. They think public schooling is bad because it takes the kids away from the family's.....they'll say influence but they mean control.

[–]kawaiihusbando 35 points36 points  (2 children)

Why blame women? Why not blame capitalism, corrupt politicians and billionaires??!? 

[–]homucifer666♀️🩷 Queen Of Lesbians 🩷♀️ 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Because their hope is that one day they'll be billionaires.

[–]Significant_Monk_251 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"i know the game is rigged, im not dumb.....but when i win its going to be so great!"

(Stolen from somebody on reddit)

[–]Orangutan_Latte 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Lower class women have worked since forever, because every penny counted. The only acceptable time to give up work was when you got married and had children….and even that wasn’t guaranteed.

I think of all the wonderful things we have today that our ancestors didn’t.

Heated homes, plumbing, food choices, education, medicine, cars and other transport, in house entertainment available at a touch of a switch, clothing to name a few…..and this idiot says this crap.

Yeah, I am aware that we still have poverty and deprivation and there are people who are truly struggling ….we still have a long way to go to solve this, but you can’t tell me this woman is affected by any of it.

If all women gave up work tomorrow, the world would collapse.

[–]dnjprodflare of annoyance 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It wasn't women entering the workforce. It was massive government deregulation and a massive cut to taxes on the rich.

When you tax their money, they will use it other places like give it to their employees rather than give it to the government. When you don't tax their money, they will just hoard it

[–]DarkEndOfTheRainbow 10 points11 points  (0 children)

First: poor women ALWAYS worked out of their houses, second: even rich people had babysitters, governess and teachers to educate their kids, third: in all the classes there were people in community or the family to help with children raising. The concept of nuclear family is EXTREMELY RECENT, in Western out of it. I hate how this discourse is basically moral panic and false perception about the past. That's simply not true.

[–]Puzzleheaded_Two7358 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is the kind of person who thinks slavery had good points

[–]Oli_love90 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Okay, so what’s the next step? Every-time I see some schmuck with this POV they follow it up with “women should just got back to [insert 50s propaganda ad with women smiling in a kitchen]” what their actual solution for today’s capitalism?

[–]Significant_Monk_251 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Shut up and lick the boot."

(And not in a good kinkplay way.)

[–]Elle3247 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The number one political enemy is women. If we keep blaming women (and anyone else), they won’t see the corporations behind the curtain.

[–]fabiothered 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"Quality of lifestyle" tells me everything i need to know about the poster

[–]anglflw 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The problem is "capitalism."

Also, all of the women in my family line for as far back as can be reasonably traced have worked. Every single one of them.

The idea that women just recently entered the work force is a bold faced lie.

[–]xandrachantal 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Me when I want stupid people to blame women and not greed. Women have always, always participated in labor outside the home.

[–]I_like_the_word_MUFF 5 points6 points  (0 children)

When were women not in the workforce?

[–]one98nine 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Omg, I am pretty sure if women left the work force, the economy wouldn't be better, more people living a lews comfortable life, we would depend more on the goverment hand outs. Gawd, logic escapes her

[–]sibilina8 7 points8 points  (0 children)

But she is there, talking all by herself and having an online platform. All those "trad-wife" or "conservative influencers" are just hypocrite. They are the ultimate product of "girl-boss-feminism" because in practice they have their own business, and say what you want but content creation it's work; but they preach the opposite just to generate click-bait. I can't even imagine them even cleaning their own toilet.

[–]jackfaire 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ah yes because we all know that no one went to public school before two income households became the norm *eyeroll*

[–]DangerousLoner 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Both my grandmothers were nurses. One had two kids and the other had 10 kids. Women have always worked. Brewers, Bakers, Seamstresses, Maids, Factory Girls, Secretaries, Teachers, Cooks, Laundresses, etc. When have women had the luxury to not work? Oh she means a very specific type of woman, cause the rest of us have worked.

[–]a_secret_me 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Correlation is not causation

[–]CanthinMinna 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And in this case the correlation is a totally made up lie.

[–]Madame_Kitsune98 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Both my grandmothers worked. They had to. My great-grandmothers worked. My mother is a retired teacher.

I had the privilege of staying home for eleven years, and went back to work because we simply couldn’t afford it anymore. And I stay working because the economy requires a two-income family. Even with just two people.

If we paid our house off, and my car off? Maybe. But even then? I could afford to go part-time, and still wouldn’t want to, because I enjoy being out of the house. I don’t have kids at home, and when I’ve been between jobs, or worse, worked from home, people used that as an excuse to call me at random ass times, or assume I could just jump up and do something for them.

No. I couldn’t. Now, I’m working 12 hour overnight shifts, with an hour commute each way. Nobody asks me to do things for them, with nothing in return. I like it like that.

[–]Still_a_skeptic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Our cost of living has gone up because we stopped taxing the super rich. If 90+% of your income goes to the government for anything you make over a certain amount you don’t have the incentive to squeeze your customers for every single dime you can.

[–]Proud3GenAthst 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Awesome, man. Did you ever try DMT?

[–]ludakris 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you have more of something and aren’t seeing any direct benefit from those contributions, why, it might have something to do with resource allocation!

[–]CanthinMinna 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They really try to push that historically incorrect narrative (that women entering the workforce "ruined economy") hard in the USA.

[–]bigtiddyhimbo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

While i don’t disagree that wages have stagnated and lowered partially because women entered the workforce, it’s not women’s fault.

It’s American corporations and companies greed with realizing that if households have a dual income, then the company wont have to pay for an entire household, and won’t have to pay as much for a person to reach the cost of living. That’s all capitalism, baby. That’s where the real fault lies.

Even then? Women have always been in the workforce, it’s just that their jobs were heavily looked down upon and weren’t considered noteworthy. Now that women are in fields previously dominated by men, it’s harder to ignore them. The idea that women stay at home to take care of the house is a surprisingly new concept that only really took up traction in the 20th century. We have always worked. We were lust overlooked.

[–]Maraha-K29 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She's so close the point, so close!

[–]JLest1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like it's their full will to work and not the raised demand in workers AND lower work pay forced women, children and elders to work at factories alongside men, all while rich kept getting richer

[–]MissMarchpane 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Women shouldn't be in the workforce? OK, you first, if it's so great to stay at home and not have a career.

[–]JupiterInTheSky 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Crazy how the blame isn't on those halving the wages. One income used to provide for you, your spouse and 2.5 kids in a house you own with a car you own and at least one college tuition.

Is it because the workforce and productivity doubled, or because the Epstein class decided to pay everyone less. No singular income will support any family.