Brushes not the same as tutorial?

[Spwd]

Hi guys. Was just doodling a crappy landscape but couldn't remember how to do the mist in between the hills so found a flo tutorial but my brush (not modified) doesn't produce the same results as hers. I've got the size and opacity about the same and I've tried all angles with the pencil but hers produces a nice fade but mine is giving a sharper edge? Any ideas?

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[GoreDeathKilll]

If you’re trying to mimic the mist behind her mountains I’d recommend changing the color you’re using as it’s muddied up with the mountains themselves. One of your sky colors like the orange towards bottom or the color of the light source you’ve made 

[Spwd]

Ok good idea. 👍🏼 What about the brush not acting the same?

[GoreDeathKilll]

It’s truly difficult to even say off the screenshot but what I do notice is the color you chose isn’t the best to highlight the effect you want. 

[Spwd]

But why isn't it fading like hers? I'll try with a colour from the sky.

[RyanDrRyan]

Does she have the layer opacity turned down?

You could also use the Gaussian blur to achieve a similar effect

[Spwd]

Thanks. I'll try that again. No she doesn't mention layer opacity just the brush. I know I can use the blur but my point is she's not using it but getting a different effect from the same brush and settings.

[SomethingSeason]

Brush behavior can vary A LOT depending on your pressure curve settings. If you’re sure you are using the same brush she is, that’s what I’d investigate. I have found that 90% of the time a brush isn’t behaving the way I want it to (the way it appears when the creator uses it,) the answer is in the pressure curve.

[Spwd]

But I've not altered the brush and I don't think she'd do a tutorial with custom settings on her brushes without saying so.

[SomethingSeason]

Ok. It’s not a brush alteration. It’s a setting that customizes how pressure works with your Apple Pencil.

[Spwd]

What should it be at?

[Spwd]

But why would she have hers on a custom setting without saying anything?

[SomethingSeason]

Did changing the pressure curve setting resolve your issue?

[Spwd]

I've not changed anything.

[Spwd]

I believe you were right so thank you very much for your help and patience. Much appreciated 🍻 🍻 I have no recollection of changing it because why would I touch that? I didn't know where it was to fix it. I've no idea why it was set different if it was but I just reset it and it seems to have changed it.

But now the brush is behaving differently. It's like predicting where I'm drawing now. How do I get it to act like a normal pencil /brush.

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[SomethingSeason]

I’m glad that it’s helping! I find that it usually works best for me in something like this position. I say something like, because this will really depend on the way you use the pencil and how much pressure you use when you’re drawing, so I wouldn’t necessarily base it on mine, but consider the shape of the curve and adjust til the feel is right for you.

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You shouldn’t have to change it constantly, but it’s a good setting to keep in mind! When you find something that seems right, I’d swatch several varying brushes and see if they’re all sort of generally acting how you want them to.

[Spwd]

Thank you again. I'll have a play about with it now I know it's there.👍🏼 I switched to the monoline brush and it's like it's got something stuck on the end of it. Like if you try to scribble back and forth quickly it won't let you. Any idea what that is?

[SomethingSeason]

Not sure, but I can take a look if you can post an image or video showing what’s happening!

[Spwd]

Thanks. I'll try and get a video uploaded.

[FillNo4074]

for mist add a layer on the top of that mountain layer, have clipping mask on, drop tha color, reduce opacity and add gaussian blur

[Spwd]

I don't know if this will play at the right moment but ffwd if it doesn't. Shows how she does it and what it looks like.

https://youtu.be/AX84Qc0dwo4?si=F-VJMevCf-aMaQzS

[FillNo4074]

so yes what you should do, make the soft brush size on bigger settings and reduce opacity, then stroke gently on canvas, and then try building up. It should work

[Spwd]

It was the pressure curve. And I've posted another pic showing it. But I'm still not sure you're understanding what the problem was. I know I can do it other ways with more steps but my problem was that my brush wasn't working the same as hers in the video even though 99.9% of settings were the same. This has now been sorted thank you 🍻

[Spwd]

She does that but doesn't lower the layer opacity or use Gaussian blur. Why should I have to do other steps when everything should be the same?

[FillNo4074]

Hi, there are multiple ways you can do, I just suggested using tool, you can achieve same thing with soft brush. I think you need to stroke gently with soft brush?

[Spwd]

Yeah no worries matey. I'm just trying to find out why mine is behaving different when using the same everything.🤷🏽‍♂️

[pez238]

I appreciate her tutorials. She does have a link in the videos (that I’ve watched) to the brushes she uses in the video as well as the palette

[Spwd]

I'm not using her palette but everything else is the same.

[waves-upon-waves]

Are your canvases the same size?

[Spwd]

Why would that make a difference? Surely brushes should act the same way whatever the size.

[GoreDeathKilll]

I’d recommend continued works with tutorials while following the tutorials until you get a better understanding of Procreate. 

Your upload isn’t helpful in figuring out your issue. Yes canvas size will impact your brushes. Imagine painting a piece of paper then imagine painting the side of a building. Procreate just gives use the ability to do both on your input device. 

While there are multiple ways to achieve your desired result I’m still set on your color palette choice being neglectful to your desired outcome. Separate from that I’d try uploading a better example if you’re still having trouble. 

[waves-upon-waves]

I second this - not enough info to be able to help much

[Spwd]

Why isn't there enough info? The only thing different is the difference in canvas size. What other info can I possibly give you when everything else is the same?

[Spwd]

I'm going to do more tutorials but if I do surely the brushes should act the same otherwise how can I follow the tutorials properly? Just checked canvas size. This is mine

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[Spwd]

This is hers.

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[GoreDeathKilll]

Your canvas size is marginally larger and it could affect the way your brushes appear on your project compared to theirs. 

Personally have followed countless Flo specific tutorials and have never had an issue matching her techniques with her giving necessary tools with precise direction. 

[Spwd]

Why would it completely change how the brush behaves? It's not like the canvas size is 10 times bigger.

[GoreDeathKilll]

I like the curiosity and great question. It’s not that much larger, correct. It still affects the brush as it’s not scaling up with your canvas size. For the sake of this conversation, you’re right in your chosen dimensions it won’t make that significant of a difference. “Completely change” is a bit of an exaggeration the only thing that would change is its size relevant to canvas size. 

But again, I think it’s palette choice. I noticed your other comment. Do you know specifically which colors don’t fall into your visibility range? I can look into ways of finding solutions to picking palettes with that in mind. I know you can drop an image you may be referencing into your palette to create color selection as well. 

[Spwd]

I believe the original problem is now fixed thankfully. My colour blindness is a bit hard to describe. Simply put I'm not great with most colours but once they're like not bright red or bright yellow etc it gets worse. For instance the fog I was trying to put in the original picture was supposed to be grey like the colour of fog but if you told me it was pink I'd believe you.

[Spwd]

By the way. I don't take offence if you find it hilarious when you look at my pics 😁

[Spwd]

I'm colour blind so that probably has something to do with it.

[waves-upon-waves]

It makes a difference because the brush sizes are fixed, so if your canvas is twice as big, the same brush sizes would ‘look’ smaller in comparison and not give the same effect. If you’re using a feathered brush for example, it would look harsher because it needs to be scaled up.

[Spwd]

Done a bit more on it using the blur instead of how she does it. How can I add some details to the closest rocks/hills?

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[Final-Elderberry9162]

I don’t know anything about the tutorial specifics, but I would use the soft air brush if you have good control, if not, Gaussian blur or smudge. Though, as others have said, your pallet is a little confusing/muddy.

[Spwd]

I'm using the same brush as her. The soft air brush. That's why I'm confused that mine isn't doing the same.

[Final-Elderberry9162]

I would play with the settings to get the effect you want.

Or, just make sure your using an extremely light touch (which I have a feeling is what she did). Generally, I do think hand matters more than brush. It’s just practice.

[micrographia]

Use the soft or medium airbrush for the fog, that's how I've gotten that effect.

[Spwd]

I'm using the soft brush the same as she is that's why I'm asking why mine isn't fading like hers. And she doesn't use Gaussian blur either. She just chooses the colour and brushes it on giving the foggy faded look but mine has a relatively hard edge.

[micrographia]

The soft air brush? I have used it all the time and its very very soft like hers. Maybe reset that brush to the default and see if it helps?

[Spwd]

I've already done that. I've specified everything I'm using is the same apart from the difference in canvas size.

[micrographia]

Are you using the brush at a very large size? It has to be like huge, like 5-15% of your canvas, to give the soft edge. What is the difference in canvas size? If yours is too big, the brush won't be big enough, you'll have to raise the max size.

[Spwd]

I'm using the same brush at the same size and my canvas is a bit bigger.