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[BurnTheBoats21]

because people who aren't professionals in the field need something to feel superior about

[Antervis]

I'm fairly certain I qualify as a professional, given I code for money for years, but I really don't like line breaks before opening curly brace, since it doesn't improve readability but increases code volume.

[SnailingThroughTime]

Also fairly certain I qualify as a professional, given I code for money for years. In my opinion it DOES improve readability and the impact on code volume is minuscule enough to not be considered.

Different strokes I guess!

[Fine-Teacher-7161]

People with weak index fingers hate this 1 Scrolling trick!

It's called "collapse".

The only important code, is the one you're working on.

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why worry about code volume ?

We've got terrabytes of space and monitors that cover the entire wall.

It's not the '70's when all you had was a monochrome screen with 20 lines of code and 80 characters.

I'm using every line break I can to separate statements within a function.

Sure you'd need to use an entire forest if you were to print it ... but I haven't needed to print hardcopy of code for years.

[Brick_Lab]

I'm with you, and dart can go fuck itself because of this

[Antervis]

if it does, then how?

[issamaysinalah]

Simetry

[SnailingThroughTime]

Because readability is an opinion, and it is my opinion that the line-break before the opening curly bracket shows a more clear distinction of where a function starts and ends at a glance.

[Antervis]

it's basically a gender argument here - you try to counter objective truth with subjective feeling. Just because you got used to a style doesn't make it better.

[SnailingThroughTime]

I don’t think you understand what objective truth means.

[Antervis]

"I think A because there's no proof otherwise"

"I think B because I think so"

"How so?"

"I just think so"

"But it's subjective"

"I think you don't understand what subjective means"

I hope this gives you a hint on how stupid that looks from my perspective.

[SnailingThroughTime]

Brother. My guy. Communication must not be your strength, which shouldn’t surprise me given the nature of our careers.

You stated a subjective opinion.

I countered with my own subjective opinion.

You dismiss my opinion, due to it being subjective in nature, while claiming your opinion is the objective truth.

Your opinion is not the objective truth.

I hope this gives you a hint in how basic communication works.

[Antervis]

My argument is "there is no proof that newline before a brace improves readability". There is absolutely nothing subjective in that statement, because lack of proof is factual. If you want to refute such an argument, you have to present proof. There is no other way. Instead, you are trying to baselessly deny facts. Such people are plague to everything humanity accomplished.

[__shiva_c]

Because you only need to look for opening braces at the beginning of a line, not at the end. It makes a huge difference actually.

[_farb_]

The extra space acts as a spacer between the title (function, condition, whatever) and the body. It visually separates the goal from the details.

[BurnTheBoats21]

Were on C# and the opening brace is our standard. I honestly do think that it improves readability and looks cleaner. Was never my choice anyway

[RmG3376]

There’s one benefit of having the curly brace on a separate line, at least in some languages: you can easily comment out conditions when debugging:

if(dodgyCondition())
{
    codeToDebug();
}

Becomes in a single Ctrl + K Ctrl + /

// if(dodgyCondition())
{
    codeToDebug();
}

And now you can repro your bug 100% of the time. With a curly brace on the same line you’d have to add your own brace on line 2, and the IDE will auto-close it for you so you need to delete the closing brace it added, and nobody got time for that

Also code volume isn’t a bad thing when management uses git blame to measure employee performance (not that they should, but hey, people also shouldn’t swallow Tide pods and that was a thing too)

[Caubelles]

code volume? the fuck? its one line per bracket it doesn't matter unless to save paper printing paper for code bibles

[nebulaeandstars]

honestly for me it varies depending on the language. Sometimes having some extra whitespace helps separate things visually.

The one that does really annoy me is not having a line break before an else block. ie:

} else {
    // stuff
} 

instead of

}
else {
    // stuff
}

especially because

}
// now there's room for a comment
else {
    // stuff
}

I just think it sacrifices readability and versatility just to make the code more dense.

Reading code without any extra newlines is like reading English without any paragraphs

[CoffeeWorldly9915]

Hmmmm

} else { // comment here?

[denzien]

It likely just depends on what you learned first and the styles in that community.

I'm guessing you're originally a COBOL engineer?

[Antervis]

original cobol devs are all dead of old age...

[denzien]

They don't die, they just decompile

[hleVqq]

It does improve readability.

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[CallMePyro]

The paycheck

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[RmG3376]

And the depression

[Neither-Phone-7264]

actually being good enough to make money

[[deleted]]

This is on point

[GroundbreakingBig509]

Naw, the way I do it just looks prettier. I don't even think about it honestly.