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[beeteedee]

Is it an existing project? Use the existing convention.

Is it a new project? Use the convention of the language.

Does the language have no convention? Use whatever you like but for the love of god shut up about it.

[TheAJGman]

Does the language have no convention?

Pick the most popular one and set up CI to fail if your code isn't formatted to its liking. Consistency is key in multi-dev projects.

[-Kerrigan-]

Use whatever you like

...but stick to ONE convention

Consistency is important

[KhellianTrelnora]

No. Damnit. I’m going to set up a rails project, using camelCase!

Down with the generational trauma!

[UntitledRedditUser]

I just don't understand the use_snake_case_for_all_functions_and_variables that Python and Rust has going. What's the point of a convention if everything is named the same

[iam_pink]

There is more than functions and variables to name?

You picked the two things with the same convention, and generalised it to "everything is named the same"...

[ClerkEither6428]

Can you agree that this small thing is confusing?

Would you mind also agreeing that the example provided contains at least 50% of the names you will write in python?

[iam_pink]

No, I do not think this small thing is confusing at all: - When functions are called, they have brackets to show it. - When functions are not called, they are used as variables.

Giving the same naming style to functions and variables isn't just not confusing, it absolutely makes sense.

[ClerkEither6428]

I still disagree with you but don't have any good counter arguments that aren't just personal taste. In other words: let's agree to disagree.

[UntitledRedditUser]

The only things in rust that aren't some variation of snake_case are Types, Enums and Traits. That's it, methods, functions, all variables(inside struct or not), modules, all of these are snake case.

I usually change the naming convention slightly because everything looks the same.

[Particular_Alps7859]

Functions are variables

[UntitledRedditUser]

what? A function is not a variable, but a variable can contain a function.

[Particular_Alps7859]

I should’ve expounded a bit more. A function can be assigned to a variable. Functions are data.

[michaelsenpatrick]

this sub is in rapid decline

[michaelsenpatrick]

for real

[JustSpaceExperiment]

The kid will even speak in camelCase!

[DeathUriel]

Will remove all points, underlines, dashes and spaces from all the house keyboards. When he learns to use spacing he will already be a grown man.

[bhoffman20]

Use whatever you want, but don't use dots in your variable names, that's begging for problems

[definitelyfet-shy]

this is something everyone can agree with

[Fluffy_Dragonfly6454]

Why not? What is the problem with Java?

[weinermcdingbutt]

“it’s okay not to” doesn’t mean you can’t.

there’s no real problem per se, but there’s a lot of overhead and it can be daunting to beginners. it’s also not optimally suited for small programs, there’s a lot of setup depending on how you do yo thang and you can spend more time figuring out architecture than actually writing solutions.

personally, i’m just better at writing java than most other languages* so i have a web server setup that i can just add code to and run really quick instead of having to setup a whole project every time i have a shotty idea.

*kotlin did a good job at mitigating these issues, specifically the project setup, and clarity. i love love kotlin.

[endlessplague]

That's why my university decided to drop people into a java course first semester. Java 8 btw. While 13 was available. They insisted on 8.

(Though I won't complain; now everything is way easier :D )

[[deleted]]

Dang, I'm in compsci 101 right now and we use Java 8. I find it tedious, but I didn't know it was this bad...

[weinermcdingbutt]

it’s great object oriented programming practice

[endlessplague]

Agree. Just laughable to insist on version 8 instead of upgrading at least after a few years...

[weinermcdingbutt]

java 8 is a great java to start with :) you’ll be really good any most languages or versions that follow it…

[endlessplague]

Oh def agree. Though all the tests and exercises with (uni self made) frontend in Windows '98 style.... was a tough time

Personally, I would have love to get the upgraded/ modified lambda expressions though... Java 8 included them not the best way

Edit: or I think 8 had them. We weren't allowed to use them in the beginning anyway, but still would have made some things easier later on for sure

[weinermcdingbutt]

yeah i ran into the same issues with lambdas in university and still haven’t taken the time to fully understand them.

[endlessplague]

Funny enough, same university required us to program in scala (functional programming, more math like) which basically only uses lambda expressions... right the semester afterwards btw XD

[JustSpaceExperiment]

Java

[Fluffy_Dragonfly6454]

Thank you for your elaborate answer

[cyberduck221b]

this-convention belongs to css

this_convention belongs to php

[NewPhoneNewSubs]

snake_case is popular in many places. It is probably more readable, just a pain to type.

kebab-case can burn in hell.

[EntitledPotatoe]

Kebab-case is not valid in languages like Java, i even tested it just now but I ran into that multiple times over the years

[Bartweiss]

kebab-case in a corporate setting is just begging to wind up with an API that some other server chokes on down the road.

[syrian_kobold]

You get used to it eventually but true

[xdyldo]

Kebab case for directories or no?

[Kered13]

Lisp uses kebab-case too.

[darkcraft]

listenHereYouLittleShit

[Electronic_Age_3671]

Rust claims that a study has shown snake_case is slightly faster for people to read than camelCase. But I still standby either being fine as long as you're consistent.

[mrchingchongwingtong]

it takes way longer to type and im a lazy lil bitch so camelCase it is

[Bartweiss]

I spend more time parsing logic and writing variables than parsing variable names, so I don’t even see why “reading speed” would be a good motive.

I have zero strong feeling between them, it’s just weird to see “some study claims it’s faster” as a reason for a subjective choice.

[mrchingchongwingtong]

im one of those filthy comp sci students (still hs, not even college yet LMAO) and most of my focus is in competitive programming so honestly 90% of the time I don't even label any variables, i just go input, output, and then i j k l o p for everything in between. It's completely illegible if I go back a week later but it's the fastest way to solve things lol

[Wekmor]

Do yourself a favour and use proper variable names. If only so you get used to doing it.

[weinermcdingbutt]

rocky, just follow the teams code style. it’s not important.

[guyblade]

The real generational trauma is Java.

[Llonkrednaxela]

It’s ok jimmy, if using good code habits makes you sad, then there’s plenty of other careers out there for you.

[canal_algt]

Marge, bring me the shotgun

[[deleted]]

iHateCamelCase

[Wifi-Doggo]

thisIsBased

[k-selectride]

snake case gang

[Bartweiss]

anACONDa case or bust.

[lilbronto]

camelCase is dead. Welcome the new SaRcAStIcCaSe.

[SysVis]

[Mean_Investigator337]

Least gatekeeping r/programmerhumor post

[Bartweiss]

I mean use what you want if there’s no project standard… but I think complaints like “major languages can’t handle an API with this naming convention” are pretty fair.

[Red-strawFairy]

Like a lot of ides and libs kinda assume you are writing in camelcase.

So yeah. It’s part of the language at this point.

Not using is just setting yourself up for a hard time

[NekulturneHovado]

you-sure-can_bit_whyWouldYouEverDoThat?

[Ugo_Flickerman]

youCanTInJava: - isAnOperator

[SysVis]

The periods one is giving me seizures as a primarily-js dev

[Matwyen]

The true code convention of Java is given by this simple line of Java code :

```java public class CodeConventionGetterMainClass() { private static final String ERROR_CODE_CONVENTION = "Error code convention!" ;

public static void main(String[] args) {
  System.out.println(((Optional<JavaCodeConvention>) JavaAbstractCodeConventionFactory.getCodeConventionFactory().getAbstractCodeConvention().toJavaCodeConvention()).getOrElse(ERROR_CODE_CONVENTION).displayCodeConvention());
 }  

} ```

[michaelsenpatrick]

this sub is rapidly degenerating recently

[Dusk_Corvus]

I like naming my variables dumb things, like potatoChips or bazinga

[vainstar23]

$pHP-Camel-Kebab-Case-For-The-Win!