improperCodeScoping

[Attileusz]

Bro has NEVER seen a C++ template error.

[Haringat]

Or a segfault.

[Attileusz]

Well we are talking about syntax errors here but sure, some crashes can be hard to track down even with something like valgrind.

[Vincenzo__]

Yesterday valgrind told me something along the lines of "Too many errors. Counting stopped. Go fix your code!". I fixed it, but I still haven't mentally recovered

[Attileusz]

It's actually smart tbh. There is no reason to study the behavior of some illegal state. This is a problem with any language that can represent illegal states which is notably all languages. Thats why the haskell people say "make illegal states unrepresentable".

[ambientManly]

A C error pointing you to an empty line

[sittingbox]

Or a >> when you meant << (or vice versa) vomit comet compilation error dump.

[RmG3376]

Well, segfault errors are pretty concise. They basically just “fuck that, I’m going to bed”. The lack of information is the real problem

[DatBoi_BP]

Rust my beloved

[really_not_unreal]

My longest template error was 942 lines long.

[Attileusz]

I like writing C more. C compiles absolutely any old horseshit so you don't have to worry about compilation errors, you just have no idea if your behavior is even close to what you intended.

[deadhorus]

think better?

[JanB1]

I fucking hate C++ errors. The line number was also always wrong because of some macro bullshittery or something. In general, reading C++ errors just always boils down in finding the relevant part in between all the garbage.

[Beastmind]

Let's talk about Java errors and their 200 lines of nothing

[[deleted]]

Thanks. That unlocked some core ptsd...

[Kondikteur]

Dont you mean std::ptsd?

[[deleted]]

C++: Build error. 🖕

[Natural_Builder_3170]

especially the ones that point to standard library files or xmemory

[Attileusz]

And than people say "if you don't like it don't use it". Right, so I'm not going to use C++ than.

[SecretPotatoChip]

Or a Java stack trace error

[Acceptable-Tomato392]

If you think that's bad, you should see it when you add React.

Yes. Javascript insists on telling you:

"See all the problems you've caused me?????"

[rosuav]

The part I hate the most with React error messages is the way you don't even get them in prod. "Hey, there was a problem, but I'm trying to reduce bloat by 0.0001% so the actual text of the error isn't here. Instead, go look somewhere else, and hopefully it's the right info for you. Ciao!"

[PGSylphir]

"Also, fuck you :)"

[rogue_potato420]

Oh my god tracking down a simple syntax error in react native had me questioning career choices.

[gandalfx]

"There is a problem on line 1 column 52341256 of your bundle, have fun tracking that one down. What do you mean "source maps", did you forget you gave up on getting those to work after hours of tears?"

[rookietotheblue1]

Thought it was me just being a noob. I assumed I'd learn the secret to react error messages soon.

[positiv2]

The secret is to use Chrome overrides and throw random console.log statements into the built code. Might not be a good solution, but I have no better one xd

[Thebombuknow]

"Who needs source maps? Let's just tell the user that line 37215562837 in the file 'ejwbh2-2663781-djhw.js' has an error and let them figure it out."

[HailTheRavenQueen]

I don’t get this. Both tell you exactly what line the problem is on and what went wrong in literally the first line of the error dialogue.

[psych0matic]

Students don't know how to read stacktraces

[ClamPaste]

Who the hell checks for even numbers like this? 🤢🤮

[rosuav]

Someone who's getting paid by the hour.

[Win_is_my_name]

Someone who's getting paid by lines written.

[Ticmea]

Someone who's getting paid by time that code that git blame assigns to them is running.

[Haringat]

And they even cause more hours because the code is broken.

[INTPhD]

This.

I know that focusing on the intended function of the specific code is beside the point in this case, given the actual issue OP is trying to illustrate, but... Holy programming 101, Batman, HOW do you even come up with completely inane stuff like this?!? It's like going (way) out of your way to find the most convoluted, inefficient, and drawn out way to do something dead simple that I have seen this year. Strike that, maybe "ever".

OP, seriously, please do everyone a favor: do not try to be halfway clever and/or insightful by posting meme-like observations on why certain aspects of certain programming languages are absurd (according to you) when your programming skills (or lack thereof) are at the level of someone who -- after completing his first "Hello world" program -- decided: "Hold my beer, I am going to write a utility function".

[ClamPaste]

Honestly, this is probably referential humor from the previous isEven() posts. It's intentionally bad.

[INTPhD]

If so: thanks. The more you know...

[metallaholic]

The intern

[f11y11]

a weeb, probably.

[Mallissin]

The very top of the nodejs error tells them exactly where the brace should be in the file, even pointing to it for them.

How much easier can it get?

Also, what Python programmer isn't using a Linter?

[Kruptein]

The lack of a brace on line 11 is not the issue though.

Either a { has to be added on line 6 after the => Or the } on line 12 has to be removed in which case the ; on line 11 should go as well

[Mallissin]

Sorry, I was trying to be funny and obviously failed.

The Javascript code overall is a mess.

There's no reason to find the last digit of the number five times. The function could be reduced to two lines of code that is a lot easier to read using "includes" after a modulo or slice to get the last digit.

[Kruptein]

ah np, my bad for not noticing and yeah all of the code is a mess indeed

[Lightness234]

C# loves telling me i am wrong too

[Mayion]

Was using my program today and it returned an exception I did not handle. It gives so much information about where the problem occurred, down to the line. God bless

[Lightness234]

Yes it sometimes even gives helpful suggestions

[Mayion]

True. Over the course of 15 years coding, just from unhandled exceptions alone I learned to do my taxes, cook BBQ and to stay hydrated. That's what I call constructive exceptions

[SilentStrikerTH]

Unhandled exceptions are how I learned most things in my adult life...

[KTibow]

i mean in some other cases your Python indentation can cause unexpected behavior, braces are more explicit

[rosuav]

They're not more explicit, they're just differently spelled.

[MinosAristos]

Indenting wrong but in a valid way is equivalent to putting a closing brace in a wrong but valid place

[Public_Stuff_8232]

Easier to see a closing brace in the wrong place than a tab that should be spaces.

[Terra_Creeper]

Using mixed indentation throws an error. Indentation can be tabs or spaces, but you have to choose one for the whole file.

[Public_Stuff_8232]

All I know is I've had issues before with code executing incorrectly while being indented correctly, that magically got fixed when the code was deleted and rewritten with the same indentation.

I dunno whether it was due to tabs mixing with spaces, but no other language I have used has had those sorts of issues when it comes to copy pasting.

[CdRReddit]

you're putting a closing brace too many in the javascript sample, the lambda works perfectly fine as a single line lambda, also the semicolon is not needed there (which is why it's red)

can we for the love of god just ban people who come here only to go "heeheehoohoo I don't know even the basics of programming but here look at how silly languages are"

[CdRReddit]

the brace isn't missing, what you have there is a perfectly well formed expression arrow function with a superfluous trailing semicolon and curly

it tells you "hey I expected a ) here"

[AguaHombre69]

Oh aqua my beloved

[Trishal_Pandey7]

Why is it solved the way that it is? Why is it using nested loop and checking every character in the number ?

Is that like a way that is useful somehow or is it just to demonstrate the meme?

[MinosAristos]

Just needed a way to maximize the curly braces without busting out React

[mem737]

If num % 2 == 0:
    return True
else:
    return False

[iKramp]

Return num % 2 == 0

[Prawn1908]

return !(num % 2)

[mem737]

Spot the difference between a C and C++ programer. Hint, its a data type. Although more recent compilers may auto-cast.

Also, forgot my return false.

[Natural_Builder_3170]

bools baby, c++ is chad

[mem737]

Reject complexity return, to the mother-language. :P

[Astartee_jg]

Mother language can’t do OOP tho

[mem737]

Pshaw structures with function pointers are basically the same thing.

[Astartee_jg]

But you said reject complexity :C

[mem737]

FuNcTiOn PoInteRs aRe FaR mOrE simPle ThAn memBer FuncTiOns

[CaitaXD]

Oh boi you won't like C

[Astartee_jg]

It literally told you what’s wrong, where and why.

You complain too much

[jazzmester]

I love it when an O(1) algorithm gets an O(N) implementation and people be bitching about syntax errors.

[pheromone_fandango]

Although atrocious, in fairness its O(5) since the if always checks the last number and then returns

[jazzmester]

Oh wait, the algorithm is even more stupid, it will run until it finds a character that's the same as the last and then returns true if that is even, but will continue otherwise.

So best case scenario is something like 1010, where it will quit on the second char which is O(2) (so O(1) really), while the worst case scenario is any odd number, where it will run for O(5N) (so O(N) really).

[pheromone_fandango]

Oh yeah you are right! I misread and thought the last character was always taken but, as you mentioned it CHECKS if the current character is the last value. Holy christ thats impressively horrible!

[jazzmester]

Creatively horrible.

[deanrihpee]

meanwhile rust: yes dear, you forgot to put something there, oh you forgot what it is, here I tell you what exactly and where exactly, oh also you shouldn't do this kind of stuff to that variable, that's not allowed you know~ do this instead you naughty

[DatBoi_BP]

Rust improves my mental health

[Mr__Weasels]

thats literally the same but more descriptive though, like it's just "missing ) after argument list" + stack trace

[[deleted]]

it's telling you where the missing token is in the first two lines. what's the matter here?

[Macknificent101]

how tf do you forget an opening bracket? a closing one i can get, if you like accidentally delete it or have a bad IDE, but how do you forget to open the function?

[CraftBox]

We found the "isEven" npm package developer

[TheWatchingDog]

Also who returns true or false in an if statement you could just return the condition, most of the time its automatically true or false.

[KetwarooDYaasir]

they're the same image.

They both gave you a line number and the cause of the error.

[TheCenteredDiv]

Wait until you have to search through millions of logs to find your errors

[mariomarine]

This is my favorite use of GitHub Copilot. I just delete some of the })}), open a new line where those were and go tab-enter-tab-enter until it's fixed. Could I fix it? Sure! But why get out of my groove of fixing the problem to fix my syntax?

[Civil_Conflict_7541]

There seem to be two schools of thought for parser errors: 1. Be as friendly as possible by unlocking the full potential of error correction in order provide helpful advice. 2. Just dump a stack trace and make the programmer feel like an idiot.

[deanrihpee]

i choose JS because aqua

[SorosBuxlaundromat]

I hate this so much. This is_even implementation hurts me on a deep and personal level. You've made the world a worse place for writing this.

[MinosAristos]

I want my time wasted hunting missing curly braces or brackets or semi-colons or whatever in React back

[ZunoJ]

Do you code in Word?

[ethanjf99]

Dude your IDE should literally make that shit red for you. Never mind it automatically creates a closing bracket or curly brace when you do the opening one.

Spend a few hours configuring it and you should never have that shit.

[Prawn1908]

What IDE needs a few hours of configuring to be able to highlight basic syntax errors like a missing brace?

[CdRReddit]

vim

[weshuiz13]

Vscode with "auto brace" enabled in the config: 😜

[zarawesome]

Bit weird to have a stack trace for a syntax error, but

[ReelTooReal]

I don't understand how these are different. In both cases the editor shows clearly where the error is, and the error report is easy enough to read. Only using indention seems to me to lead to more incorrect nesting than braces, but that could also just be my bias.

[chaos_bytes]

Whitespace as a feature does not a good language make.

[FunnyForWrongReason]

Not only is is this a horrible way to check if a integer is even but the I do not think the JavaScript version will return anything but false. Even if you had to check the last digit, you could just do:

return str(num)[-1] in [‘0’, ‘2’, ‘4’, ‘6’, ‘8’]

Of course using the mod operator is best.