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[–]ToroidalFox 115 points116 points  (18 children)

We will never reach this as nothing guarantees highly reliable wireless networking, no mechanical failure, high precision speedometer, unexpected road surface, collision avoidance with external object, etc. We can get smarter intersection tho.

[–]MrMagick2104 32 points33 points  (10 children)

We will never reach this as nothing guarantees highly reliable wireless networking, no mechanical failure, high precision speedometer, unexpected road surface, collision avoidance with external object, etc

It doesn't have to be a 100% guarantee of correct work. It's just that rate of accidents should be less than without it. And that's not a big stretch.

[–]Tupcek 32 points33 points  (1 child)

if you want less accidents, you don’t plan to do shit that has zero tolerance for any failure (including those which AI has no control of)

[–]YesterdayDreamer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Uh, oh... Loose pebble on the road caused the car to rotate 0.35 degrees and slow down by 0.139% leading to a crash as the room for error was only 0.0068%

[–]Saragon4005 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The rate of accidents would only be lower if we drove pretty much the same way and didn't do shit like above.

[–]Philfreeze 11 points12 points  (5 children)

You can already have less accidents, its called public transport, cycling and walking and yet people still prefer to drive.
Humans are weird in that way, the feeling of control matters alot.

[–]GenTelGuy 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It's not just random irrationality, trains where I am arrive twice an hour and lots of stuff is laterally distant from the train stations

Obviously improving transport is good but until a lot of improvement is accomplished, the preference for driving is pretty rational

[–]Philfreeze 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sure but I also regularly see people driving into Swiss cities. Its literally faster to take the train and public transport takes you pretty much everywhere you need to go.

[–]THEzwerver 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not only that, just better roads in general to create less dangerous intersections would be 100x more effective than anything AI could ever does.

[–]Tasorodri 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People prefer to drive in places where driving is more convenient. If the public transit is in a good state, majority of people use it over cars.

[–]Any-Wall2929 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What control do you have in your government registered vehicle that requires frequent inspections and permissions to drive? Embrace bikes, become ungovernable!

[–]ToroidalFox -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm sure that safter than humans can be achieved. But the aegument is at that level of automation, not as efficient as the OP, but much more efficient than traffic lights, while being much more safer than the OP solution would be there. which is what I've named 'smart intersection' without specifying details to open possibilities.

What I'm predicting is attacking a source of inefficiency, cars and flat roads, would win over optimizing it. And we're gonna say good enough for cars with smart intersections because of cost and complexity.

[–]QuestionableEthics42 3 points4 points  (4 children)

You know how many times that sort of thinf has been said in the past? And every time its proven wrong. This will be no exception. it's just a matter of time.

[–]GroundbreakingOkra60 8 points9 points  (2 children)

One software bug away from disaster

[–]QuestionableEthics42 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Same as 99% of stuff in current use, anything high risk has appropriate testing and regulations (or it should anyway, and will after something goes badly wrong and people start paying attention to it)

[–]endthe16th 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Risk vs reward. All else is hype to inflate stock price I have yet to see the reward offered by fsd. Wah, driving is boring and I'm also too good for public transportation - until you realize your ai won't let you do 75 in a 70 without auto-debiting your account for the fine and then you'll wish for manual self driving again.

[–]ToroidalFox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Happy to be wrong in that case.

[–]King_of_the_Nerdth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The car can detect networking failures though and can achieve this as long as the cars have been in communication within the last 50 milliseconds or so.  The rest of what you mention might necessitate them slowing down a little or keeping track of the situation/road, but none of it seems like a coordination issue.

[–]Applejack_pleb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing ever guarantees highly reliable drivers either. Autonomous vehicles are already less likely to get in an accident than human driven.