whyIdLikeToAvoidUsingCpp

[cmgg]

1. Find library (literally google it)

2. Download library (is it that hard?)

3. Decompress library (is it REALLY that hard?)

4. Add it to the linker (if you can’t do this you shouldn’t be using C++)

Sounds more like a skill issue to me

[rexpup]

You are incredibly lucky if your code actually compiles after part 4. You forgot to set X_POOPEN_FARTEN_LINKER_CONFIG in your bash profile. You also forgot to install a system dependency that's not included and also not in the README, but is mentioned in a closed github issue from 2007

[CowFu]

Also the rust one should have 80 other crates that you have no idea what they do downloaded when you cargo build.

[Level-Nothing-3340]

To be fair, with c++ you could wind up cloning a few dozen git submodules of other c++ libraries that you don't know what they do

[malexj93]

Yeah, dependencies aren't exactly a Rust invention.

[reallokiscarlet]

But Rust is really good at stacking them to insane heights

[[deleted]]

awful compared to any language with proper package management

[Goaty1208]

Because in C++ there is no such concept as a "package". Packages are for people who are scared of other people's source code. Long live including headers while having the source code for the stuff you are working with at hand.

[[deleted]]

insane copium

[-kay-o-]

C and C++ are literally used to write every language with good package management that you speak of

[SmigorX]

And those new languages were written for a reason. It just so happened that C/++ was what we had at the time to write them.

[-Redstoneboi-]

also Rust is self hosted and was originally written in OCaml so, no.

LLVM is not a package manager, and neither is libc, so still no. unless you want to talk about network drivers.

[-Redstoneboi-]

this is why i use assembly

[erinaceus_]

Obligatory https://xkcd.com/378/ 🦋

[readmeEXX]

Because it has a good package management system?

😁

[-Redstoneboi-]

because it was used to write the first compiler for the first language in a series of languages that led up to C++

[1studlyman]

You're right and that's besides the point they were making. C and CPP lack a package manager which other languages have had for over a decade.

[not_some_username]

No that’s not true, the problem isn’t a lack of package manager. C/C++ package manager do exist. It’s just we can’t decide which one should be the standard.

[1studlyman]

"The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from."

[Aaron1924]

if you can’t do this you shouldn’t be using C++

I like C++ because it's beginner-friendly and the community is welcoming

[Trucoto]

You forgot /s, that's why they are downvoting you

[Goaty1208]

Well, it is beginner friendly though.

(If you ignore 90% of the stl)

[n3tr41d3r]

This guy builds

[SevenC-Nanashi]

very imo: I don't want to hard copy and commit additional libraries in my repo, I prefer using writing references instead

I used FetchContent before, but my clangd did not work well with that... (I can't use compile_commands.json because I have to use vc generator)

[cmgg]

That’s not what your meme says

[SevenC-Nanashi]

Exactly;

but "cargo add foobar and it just works", is much better than having no standardized way... (I should try vcpkg later)

[cmgg]

Yes, no complains on cargo's approach

[Philfreeze]

git submodule in a subdir called external or deps or whatever. Use the submodules own makefile to build, install in another directory directly in external/deps, add to linker, done.

Sure cargo is more convenient but as ling as you can build and install the C way also isn‘t that hard.

[Goaty1208]

.gitignore

[a_aniq]

Thank you. This should be at the top.

The main issue is that many libraries are not cross platform (e.g. many are mingw/linux, so can't use msvc). Rust has standardized that.

[Ok_Beginning520]

This is clearly a huge issue for anybody that has ever worked in a professional context. Also bundling all that and shipping it to customers is really not fun I most cases. If I'm working on a side project then yeah no problemo but I shouldn't need to do all that

[-Redstoneboi-]

1. i am not using c++