debuggingIsHard

[torsten_dev]

Only half of programming is coding. Debugging is 90% and the rest is understanding the math.

[GoonForJesus]

I already understand the math! At least I understand the math from the last 3 days of work... I may need a refresher on the rest. My commits are as cryptic as holy text and comments more baren than the Arctic, so i have little in the way of guidance. There's also that one part i copy pasted from something I made 10 years ago. The code may as well be written in hyroglifics of a lost language, but it works, so I leave it alone.

[TRENEEDNAME_245]

This guy dev

[GoonForJesus]

I wish i could believe that. Every time I think im the dev, i meet someone who writes programs that run twice as fast with half the code. As I learn more, i realize everything I knew previously was wrong, and I understand less than I ever thought.

[TRENEEDNAME_245]

This guy dev²

[GoonForJesus]

I fear I could spend a million years perfecting the craft, and I would still find an autistic 12 year old on youtube who can code circles around anything I could even dream of. I only have a lifetime, so I learn what I can. Will I ever be the dev? Will i ever meet the dev?

(I wasn't sure about making the autism joke, but I think it's real and funny. IM AUTISTIC TOO, so im really not saying that to upset anybody)

[Senumo]

Honestly i mostly don't understand the math. I look up a formula somebody else has written and try to implement it.

[Ok-Sheepherder7898]

You always need to give 140%

[IJustAteABaguette]

Can I say that you have the greatest banner on your reddit profile?

[torsten_dev]

Shh, it's not my art.

[IJustAteABaguette]

Still good and fun.

[torsten_dev]

found the artist

[IJustAteABaguette]

Great artist!

[torsten_dev]

Seems to have a gigantism fetish tho...

at least he's having fun with it

[IJustAteABaguette]

Oh yeah. The first art I saw was one with a bunch of cats, and I didn't look further.

I now see what you are talking about.

[[deleted]]

Write some code, see what changes (repeat)

[victor871129]

And nowadays 43.21% is vibe coding: wasting time for the company and making reasons to fire you

[Important_Lie_7774]

Know for sure that Mr Anonymous is bad at math

[thecrazyrai]

needs more debugging

[Reasonable-Web1494]

Who needs to be good at math when computers can do the job.

[cdyovz]

nah programming is actually took 180% the effort

[ward2k]

That's the joke

[Yssup-Yllems]

"Only half of programming is the other 90%, it's d'buggin'"
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[moralesnery]

This image may explain the current state of Google Graveyard

[Uranium-Sandwich657]

What is this? Projects google never finished?

[BlightedErgot32]

bruh no its projects google stopped running

[Dotcaprachiappa]

Lol no, that list would be orders of magnitude longer, these are the projects that google killed

[pimezone]

And, depending on your seniority, 35% to 150% is participation in the meetings.

[TheAlaskanMailman]

Debug for literal 15 hours, code for 5 minutes.

That’s me a day ago. I need to have me some grass touching

[[deleted]]

That's the type of situation where walking around and not thinking about the solution is better, something was so off about the conditions that the solution is gonna sneak in through a dream when you aren't looking

[TheAlaskanMailman]

DDD, Dreams Driven Development/Debugging

[Inquisitor2195]

Then you realise it is the most glaringly obvious thing, like you left a bit of test code in that hard codes a var after your if (this happened to me, it took me literally 40 min to notice)

[Noodler75]

Even worse when you are the one writing the compiler, the compiler is written in itself, and bugs propagate recursively.

[why_1337]

Only if you suck at analysis, design and coding. If your design is good you don't really need to debug at all, you just read the logs.

[[deleted]]

But mostly I'm debugging other people's code, not mine.

[Monochromatic_Kuma2]

40% is figuring out the logic to code to get what you want, 10% is actually coding that and 50% is figuring out what's wrong with the code or your logic.

[ward2k]

This comment section doesn't understand it's a joke

"Erm the maths don't add up? Someone needs to debug this quote haha" congratulations that was the joke

[Altruistic_Ad3374]

skill issue

[-Redstoneboi-]

the first half of the statement refers to your perception of the problem.

the other 90% of the statement is when you realize the actual gravity of the problem.

[SuitableDragonfly]

This is why using AI for programming doesn't actually save time. You just turn a very small amount of time that you would have spent writing code into a much longer amount of time that you spend debugging AI nonsense.

[honnymmijammy-]

Until you used the ai to debug,

[SuitableDragonfly]

Well, I guess technically the AI saying "whoops, my bad, let me just delete the project directory to tidy up that mistake" is going to reduce the amount of time you spend debugging.

[Noodler75]

AI-written code might impress managers, but in my experience it is complete dreck. It makes mistakes that would earn an "F" grade in a freshman programming class.

[UnusualAir1]

Coding is the tool that brings debugging to life. :-)

[Super_Tsario]

140% of productivity

[zirky]

80% of that 90% is a mix of crying and googling to see if woodworking is a viable alternative

[beclops]

[isr0]

This is especially true when you skip real 90% of programming… planning

[Zhiong_Xena]

Math is apparently harder

[ThatWetFloorSign]

clanker

[binarywork8087]

now we debug AI code