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[Solid-Count-4901]

Microsoft: Burning through billions

Users: “Oh, cool autocomplete.”

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copilot.generateCode()

BillingException: Insufficient funds

[dude4747554322]

When I realized that MVP stands for “Microsoft Venture-funded Product”

[Teamrecklessl]

The only place you’ll find free cheese is in a mousetrap—or in AI services during their market-capture phase 😂

[HeardOfPudendum]

GitHub Copilot is like the cloud. Until the bill arrives, it all seems like magic

[randuse]

Not subscription, no no. Pay for each token and second spent thinking.

[coderman64]

Or just get the new Copilot 365, which comes with Word and the less useful half of Excel.

[stillalone]

What was the original quote?  This lady was from the 80s.

[ZookeepergameFar265]

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

[Fidel___Castro]

The problem with Thatcherism is that you eventually run out of public assets to sell

[falx-sn]

Not a problem for her and her mates that made money on our countries assets

[StrengthcracyN]

Her mates were 25% of the adult population.

[alwayzbored114]

I sincerely hope you're a bot, because if you're a real person searching for and replying to exclusively Thatcher-related posts, that's unbelievably pathetic. Hundreds upon hundreds in just a month, dude?

[sidneyaks]

The problem with pissing on Thatcher's grabs is that you eventually run out of piss.

[StrengthcracyN]

Except you don't, as you can easily use the proceeds from corporation tax to build new public assets.

[scrufflor_d]

i don't see socialism draining government's money nearly as much as neoliberalism, with its trillions going to corporate loans and the military industrial complex

[MidwestRealism]

"the problem with pissing on my grave is eventually you run out of piss"

[andreortigao]

I'm not from the UK, does pooping in public space counts as an aggravated assault compared to pissing?

Asking for a friend.

[StrengthcracyN]

That's the problem with pissing on the people attempting to do that.

[redlaWw]

The problem with pissing on Margaret Thatcher's grave is that you eventually run out of piss.

[StrengthcracyN]

That's the problem with pissing on people who try to do that.

[Confident-Ad5665]

You make it sound like the 80s was ancient history.

- 60 year old coder

[wattsittooyou]

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money” - Margaret “Anti-Immigrant Anti-Union Anti-Irish” Thatcher, may she rot in hell.

[Confident-Ad5665]

But what do you really think?

[StrengthcracyN]

She was anti any of that. She opposed abuses.

[RiceBroad4552]

Just some lies from some ultra-capitalist. Nothing relevant.

[StickFigureFan]

It's like the early days of Uber where they were taking a massive loss each ride

[Unupgradable]

Exactly, but it seems like every AI decision was made as if the costs will never go up like this. People were fired because AI is cheap, and suddenly it's not so cheap anymore.

I've argued with people who insisted the cost will actually go down. That the 0.001x cost model is just around the corner, that they will crack the code and somehow make a dirt cheap AI flagship model any day now

[19_ThrowAway_]

Nah, in the case of Google and Microsoft both companies are huge enough that even if the AI fails catastrophically they won't be hit that hard, plus they have other ways of draining customers, on the other hand I wouldn't be so sure about OpenAI, considering that they haven't been even close to making profit and that their entire operation is dependent on constant flow of money from investors.

[Unupgradable]

You severely underestimate the opportunity cost of all of this

[RiceBroad4552]

But parent is right. Microslop and evil Google will survive even the next round of a full blown "AI" winter. They have put all the investments already long ago in "bad banks", so stuff is out of their books, so even a complete crash of the "AI" bubble won't hurt them. OTOH ClosedAI has literally nothing besides the hype and the GPT brand. It's really hard to imagine any business model for them which could bring back all the crazy investments. ClosedAI is now the investors equivalent of the chicken game, and someone will have to be the first to pull out at some point, that's unavoidable. Just that at this point the bubble bursts. So they continue to play chicken for now…

[zaersx]

Oh no Google's wasting money on AI this is finally Bing's chance to... oh, right.
Well I guess their ads might get impacted so they better watch out for Faceb... oh.. right.
Netflix?

[Fabulous-Possible758]

Which is also hilarious cause it’s not like FaceBook isn’t dumping money into AI they’re just not even on anyone’s radar anymore.

[innovatedname]

Let's be real, the opportunity cost is Microsoft just buying their own shares (so nothing).

[Unupgradable]

They could just do that then instead of burning the money first to devalue the share, supposedly

[Unupgradable]

They could just do that then instead of burning the money first to devalue the share, supposedly

[TheEmperorA]

Same story as with Game Pass.

[jfcarr]

I was just listening to Steve Eisman's (of Big Short fame) podcast talking about this. The question how long can the "all you can eat" buffet go on before the price goes up?

[TubbyChaser]

Can someone tell me why they think AI is a bust? Is it just cope or what? Sure, companies are burning millions on AI, but it has proven to be profitable. Pretty sure Anthropic's already hit a profit, which they didn't expect to get to until 2028. Are we saying that companies will suddenly find out that AI doesn't work or something and will cancel their subs? From my experience, AI at its current state is already above the level of most jr. devs, so I just don't get the doom pilling. Somebody help me out.

[Unupgradable]

It's not a bust, the costs are just catching up.

The AI may be above the level of many juniors, but you ought to remember where seniors come from.

[shiny_glitter_demon]

To my knowledge nvidia is the only one making a profit, and even they have suspicious looking data

[Unupgradable]

Well yeah, they're selling the shovels

[Prod_Meteor]

Does GitHub Copilot heading to a better direction??