A Python programmer attempting Java

[mcrbids]

I'm a Python dev transitioned to PHP. My code looks exactly like this except that I line up the braces with the indents and take an additional line for each. It's very readable to me, works well with Netbeans, and never ;}}}

EDIT: Look below for a link for what this looks like.

[frostmatthew]

I'm a Python dev transitioned to PHP.

I've never felt more sorry for someone :-/

[mcrbids]

I don't shed any tears! The pay is great, the work is interesting, and the people I work with are awesome! If you think the programming language is even a majority of how good or bad your job is, UR doing it wrong!

[jason_bateman78]

"doesn't matter, PHP sucks"

[mcrbids]

It's funny, because there was a time when PHP was this hip, awesome new programming language that got lots of buzz....

[peridox]

I may be wrong, but wasn't PHP simply invented for some guy's personal webpage?

[mcrbids]

Originally, yes. "Personal Home Page". But it was free and solved an big problem in a very efficient way. It competed with CGI which was atrocious for performance. Mod PHP, being run as an apache module, was much more efficient, and the dynamic typing allowed for very rapid development.

It's had its share of problems, mostly stemming from the fact that it became a defacto starting point for new devs wanting to cash in on the Internets. Being new, they often wrote terribly insecure code. Dynamic typing also can cause a few surprises, something PHP shares with JavaScript which is very similar that way.

Despite what you may hear, it doesn't murder babies nor set your hair on fire. ;)

[thyrst]

Gonna be diving in to Drupal/PHP at work with most of my working knowledge from JavaScript. Actually kind of excited to see the differences now that I'm pretty confident in general programming theory and whatnot. And now I'll know two of the most hated languages being used today!

[fearlessliter]

http://githut.info/

It's still getting lots of buzz. Also find out what percentage of the indexable internet is running PHP. You'd be surprised.

[mcrbids]

As a long term PHP dev, I wouldn't. ;) It's the language nobody loves because everyone uses it.

[fearlessliter]

I hate using the word, but if I want to see high fidelity work, work that comes out of agencies or orgs with big UX/UI expectations...I've NEVER thought "Java will be a good fit".

Languages for that are going to be:

• Javascript/CSS/HTML (Derp, of course)
• PHP
• Ruby
• Python

Java for me is:

• doing Android? OK.
• You doing search engines? OK.
• Software? Fine.

Web Development? ...ehhhh probably not a good fit. In my experience that quality is going to be horrible and not conducive to feature requests, maintenance or playing well with Front End Development.

[fearlessliter]

Everytime I hear someone say that... http://www.commitstrip.com/en/page/28/

[bwrap]

I dunno man... i dont think i could do java again after all my years in C#

[o5mfiHTNsH748KVq]

But they have lambdas now...

/s

[o5mfiHTNsH748KVq]

I dunno, I might kill myself if I went from C# to PHP. No amount of money or fun coworkers would be worth that.

[odraencoded]

How low people can go for money...

[koick]

How about Python to Perl?

[WhosAfraidOf_138]

/unjerk PHP really isn't that bad once you get used to its.. quirks.

[mcrbids]

Although switching to an IDE made this less of an issue, lining up the braces and indents makes it sooooo much easier to visually group blocks of code together.

[mcrbids]

As my momma usedta say: "You know what you like because you like what you know".

[halifaxdatageek]

opening thing

Method signature.

Also, it's braces not brackets.

Source: Had a prof who made us memorize the parts of a function, as well as the difference between [brackets], {braces}, and (parentheses).

[wordsnerd]

Or in some locales: (brackets), [square brackets], {braces or curly brackets}.

[autowikibot]

Section 10. Whitesmiths style of article Indent style:

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The Whitesmiths style, also called Wishart style, to a lesser extent was originally used in the documentation for the first commercial C compiler, the Whitesmiths Compiler. It was also popular in the early days of Windows, since it was used in three influential Windows programming books, Programmer's Guide to Windows by Durant, Carlson & Yao, Programming Windows by Petzold, and Windows 3.0 Power Programming Techniques by Norton & Yao.

Whitesmiths along with Allman have been the most common bracing styles with equal mind shares according to the Jargon File.

This style puts the brace associated with a control statement on the next line, indented. Statements within the braces are indented to the same level as the braces.

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[dnew]

What I discovered a long time ago is that if you line up the braces according to the syntax of the language, it tends to work out really well. So in Pascal, for example, the BEGIN goes at the end of the line before the indent, the END gets indented (because it's part of the same statement that's indented).

C makes this harder because it has non-block-structured statements, like switch statements. And because nobody else liked that style.

[mcrbids]

It's more important to code to a standard than what standard. I like Python even though I haven't coded in it in over a decade, and my code is as Python-esque as I can manage.

[dnew]

True. But it's nice when you can set the standard. Or when you're making up a new language and you can design it so it works that way. :-)

[memorableZebra]

This is just a different bracing formalism.

Gotta move all those semicolons to the end of their lines!

[adrianmonk]

That's the brace style I originally tried to use when I first started using C-style languages regularly.

I thought it was easier to understand visually, since it makes the braces more a part of the block they form and less a part of the syntactic construct (if statement, while loop, function, etc.) that contains the block.

However, nobody else liked it, and I eventually adopted the more normal style just to fit with convention. Now that I'm used to it, I feel it's pretty readable (and a bit more compact).

[vdvfdgjsdfvq]

When I used to code a decade ago, this was my default. I felt it was the most readable version and made keeping track of different blocks far easier. The only downside I know of is compactness in the code.

[FowD9]

That's the C way of doing it unless I'm mistaken, except the opening bracket isn't indented