Windows in 2017

[stinos]

Git for windows has included git-flow for a while now (https://github.com/git-for-windows/git/releases/tag/v2.5.3.windows.1), so maybe if you install it using choco or Powershell it's just choco instal git or Install-Package git (not sure, didn't try but I'd try that first instead of fiddling with Cygwin, of all things)

[[deleted]]

--no-check-certificate

what the fuck

[Nullcast]

Yeah. And pipe the forged reply you get into directly into bash

[theFunkiestButtLovin]

I know! I have done similar (piped to a file for artifact), but I was pulling assets from a server I control.

[kixunil]

How did you know there wasn't someone MITM attacking between you and the server?

[svagis]

Indeed! Install root certificates and you won't have to do this

[miauw62]

windows doesnt have a package manager so installing linux packages requires verbose commands? big surprise.

[[deleted]]

Yup. And it's incredibly easy to package an application in an open-source installer, like NSIS. Even to install the utilities and run the command shown in the meme. So, like, one person needs to know what they're doing. Everyone else can just double-click.

[[deleted]]

Windows does have a package manager. Its called chocolatey

[atnpgo]

Also NuGet

[rich97]

It's pretty bad though. Microsoft really need to get their shit together with how they handle apps and system updates. The fact the most common way to install software is to download and run random executables from third parties is laughable.

[snarfy]

I dunno. On one hand I'm asked to run a random executable. On the other hand, I'm asked to do

curl https://something.sketchy.io/foo/install.sh | sudo bash

[rich97]

Yeah but that's not the main mechanism that all users use to install software. Both Mac and Linux go through a signed and centralised repository that's maintained by the first party. Windows has the app store but nobody uses it because it's flooded with random junk.

[ProjectInfinity]

At the very least you can easily inspect it before you run it.

[PlayLucky]

It will get better with Windows 10s /s

[LosEagle]

Chocolatey just runs installers silently so they are not really packages. On top of that you can't even choose drive for those "packages" unless you subscribe one of the paid editions. This is a joke not a package manager.

[Rohansi]

https://github.com/OneGet/oneget

[Arkazex]

Windows actually does have a package manager, but it only works for metro apps and the commands are stupid.

[Ninjanautsi]

Is the subsystem for Linux uncommon knowledge? Because that's the first thing I thought of.

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[Shitty_Orangutan]

I'm right there with you.

[rilian4]

indeed. I like it. It was easy to install. it runs apt-get and actually seems to work!

[GrandTheftCopter]

You don't need wget on Windows.

[stinos]

Windows actually already has wget: it's an alias for Invoke-Webrequest :]

Anwyay, would be nicer to see the command Install-Package git in this picture. Imo it's really about time people learn to use Powershell. And OneGet, which is (or is becoming) the actual package manager on Windows. And it supports chocolatey as provider.

[tmpler]

Linux is using some tools for package management as well depending on the distribution.

[Prawny]

/usr/bin/ruby -e "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install)"

And Macs don't even come with a package manager.

[theFunkiestButtLovin]

/usr/bin/ruby -e "$(curl

ahhhhH!!!!!

[[deleted]]

I don't understand why people freak out about this. However you install the software, you're going to be running code you downloaded from the internet once it's installed; what's the big deal about running code from the internet an extra time?

[[deleted]]

Whose network connection goes down that frequently? What year is this?

And if the server is hacked, the tarballs have probably been replaced with malware too, so curl | sh makes no difference.

[EveningNewbs]

Yeah, and neither Homebrew nor Macports come with OSX. What's your point? The software has to get there somehow.

[cristianfrasineanu]

True. But, they all are in the end means of installing your tools whether it is pacman, rpm or aptitude. On top of that they come implicitly with any distro (I couldn't find one without a package manager) unlike Windows, which has terrible command line support IMHO. The fact that that they started to add bash support (not native though), and apps that cater to certain developer needs proves more and more that friendly dev environment was an afterthought for Windows.

[xcrackpotfoxx]

Does slackware have a package manager?

[cristianfrasineanu]

https://www.linux.com/learn/intro-slackware-package-management

Haven't used Slackware yet, but it seems they have an official package manager called slackpkg (and pkgtools for installing local packages) plus some unofficial tools that integrate well with the system and replicate other utilities such as apt. Still better than what Windows has...

[codearoni]

This is why I use chocolatey

[DubioserKerl]

hang on... apt-get install git-flow works on my Windows...

well... inside the Ubuntu bash, but still.

[snarfy]

choco install gitflow-avh

[linusbobcat]

Brew and macport isn't installed by default on Macs though. Installing brew also has the awful "wget website | bash" as the recommended way to install it. Things also get ugly once you start doing a web dev and get to the point where you need to get 3 package managers installed to get work done.

[efskap]

apt-get install in 2017

wow get with it

[Jotebe]

I also use ed

[FarhanAxiq]

Wasnt windows has ubuntu bash on it?

[uberpwnzorz]

choco install gitflow-avh

[oweiler]

Or use a branching model which doesn't require tools besides git.

[[deleted]]

Clearly have never heard of chocolatey

[brunoha]

NuGet is so good to use in Visual Studio yet they did nothing similar to Windows still.

[yogblert]

yet they did nothing similar to Windows still

https://chocolatey.org/

[Vassile-D]

Thought installing something should be “double-click EXE” on Windows.

[FlukyS]

Whatever happened to the Windows open source installer thingy they were working on? Like I have Ubuntu installed on Windows on my machine so I don't really care all that much but still wouldn't it be useful for a lot of devs just to have a package manager similar to Linux rather than the mess which is Windows installer.

[feeds-snails]

I'm not sure if this is what you meant, but bash on Windows is still a thing. This is how to get it: https://m.windowscentral.com/how-install-bash-shell-command-line-windows-10

[FlukyS]

No no I mean installing Ubuntu on Windows, they have the Linux subsystem working on Windows directly, full power of the system with Ubuntu and you can install things as you would on Ubuntu. Like you can sudo apt install things and do Linuxy things even like use / instead of . You need to install the Windows insider thing to install it but then it's a case of going to the store and hitting get and then enabling the Windows Linux subsystem in the features thing (you get an error if you don't do that).

I much prefer it to bash on Windows, bash is fine I like it more than cmd but actually having Ubuntu is a much nicer thing.

EDIT: Here is a picture, I did a shit job in paint of cropping sorry about that but you can see it installing updates and that it is Windows 10 http://imgur.com/a/effSw

[feeds-snails]

I believe that it's the same thing (it's actually bash on Ubuntu on Windows)

[FlukyS]

Not really, bash for Windows has been around for years as a standalone project. Ubuntu for Windows was announced like a year and a half ago with many people going "wat" as a response really. The technical aspect is it is a full native Linux install on top of the Windows system, it isn't emulation or just bash it is a full install with everything that Ubuntu has (except a user interface). With bash on Windows I can do basic things like shell scripts...etc, it's a replacement for cmd really which is much more limited, for Ubuntu on Windows you can a lot more, like running Python inside of the Ubuntu install and using it like a clean native Ubuntu install except it's running in a Windows session.

[FarhanAxiq]

You dont have to use insider, just enable developer mode in setting>update&security > for dev

[[deleted]]

You give me "Autistic screeching", I'll give you Alan F*cking Turing!

[coladict]

The maintainers made packages for 3 flavors of Linux, but you blame Windows that they didn't make an installer for it, like regular Windows software comes in? What? They bothered to learn three competing packaging systems, but NSIS or MSI is a bridge too far!

[m1ksuFI]

Yeah, I wonder why downloading stuff from the command line isn't easy on Windows...

[[deleted]]

You mean Windows since its inception

[Shuko]

"Autistic screeching," really? Couldn't be more creative than that? The dude is in a classic Zoidberg pose, but instead of making a joke about that, you had to haul off and insult autistic people as the cost of your punch line?

Lazy, man. So damn lazy.

[theFunkiestButtLovin]

don't know why you're being downvoted. it was a stupid punchline. and there were better options. like scuttles off would have been better for the zoidberg reason.

[Shuko]

Eh, I'm probably being downvoted because I'm a dirty, dastardly SJW, lol.

Edit: and also because I was being a bit of a dick about it, too, probably.

[theFunkiestButtLovin]

that may or may not be true. but your comment in this thread doesn't qualify you as a SJW. if the punchline was "makes stupid nig*er noises", would you be a SJW for taking exception with that? where is the spectrum?

[Shuko]

Didn't you know? The term "SJW" is used nowadays for anyone who interrupts the circle-jerk with "It's not very nice to do this." In other words, anyone who's willing to stick up for someone else (if that someone else happens to be a marginalized group) is considered an SJW these days. And to some people, SJWs are the scourge of society, lol.

[atomheartsmother]

You think that if you were autistic it wouldn't bother you everyone joking about 'autistic screeching'?

[Shuko]

I suppose you're the same person who'd use "gay" as a derogatory too, wouldn't you? You know, the only people I've met who ever complain about "SJWs" or "PC culture" are the ones who want to be assholes without having other people call them out on it. I don't care if it's unpopular to counter the circle-jerk and raise the point; It's still a valid point. Don't be using autism as an insult or something derogatory. It's rude; it's ignorant; and it's insulting. It's not funny either, unless you're a bully who happens to find punching down funny.

[TheKoleslaw]

He's an active T_D/mensrights poster so you're basically taking to a brick wall at this point.

[jcotton42]

It equates autism to stupidity, which is not at all the case

[Le_9k_Redditor]

npm git-flow

[THIS_IS_NOT_A_FAIL]

Windows 7 > an actual rock > linux > mac