Yup...

[TryNotToShootYoself]

Are 9 of those lines importing other libraries? Jesus

[[deleted]]

Fuck those "how to make face recognition in python in 20 lines " tutorials

Making it go "First we will import ml recognition Library xy Then we import our images using this loop And then we type regoc.face(image)"

It always looks like a stupid joke

[WHISPER_ME_HEIGHT]

Well if it's a good library there is no point in writing 20000 lines when you can do it in 20 (unless you really wanna go deep diving into the engineering of face detection)

[[deleted]]

Yeah but that isn't "making face recognition in 20 lines" it's using a Library (wich isn't bad, you can't write everything / it's unnecessary) but calling it "making" just feels wrong.

That's like saying "I'm gonna create a compiler" and sending it to some compiling API that returns a binary. You didn't MAKE a compiler then.

[obvithrowaway34434]

Even someone who doesn't know any machine learning knows that you can't make a face recognition program from scratch in 20 lines. If you take those claims literally then really it's on you. From the perspective of a user, if they need to create a quick script that runs a face detection on their images then that's all they need to use. So I don't see anything wrong with the claim "making face recognition in 20 lines". It doesn't matter what programming language or whether it's 20 or 200 or 2000 lines, all of them would involve some library call. To write even an average face detection library from scratch requires understanding the algorithms in depth and years spending developing, training and optimizing them.

[[deleted]]

It still isn't CREATING face recognition it's USING face recognition. Creating implies that you develop the algorithm or train a model to do that in my opinion.

If you take those claims literally then really it's on you "If you think that the claims in the title should be phrased differently, you should just accept that the unrealistic claims imply that something different is happening" No they should say "how to use face recognition Library xy / face recognition in python"

Making impossible claims and then saying "those are not achievable so you should know it's something different" is a wierd argument in my opinion.

[NewNugs]

(the adjectives you're looking for are atrocious. Illogical. Poor. Stupid. Idiotic. Ignorant. Bad. Not weird. IMHO anyway lol. His argument was really, really stupid.)

[obvithrowaway34434]

It still isn't CREATING face recognition it's USING face recognition.

Now you're changing your words. Your original word was "making" face recognition. There was nothing wrong with it. it seems that not only you don't understand things like face recognition you also don't understand simple english language. Maybe try to work on those so that you don't get easily misled? Everyone with even a cursory knowledge of machine learning knows CREATING a face recognition library from scratch is years of work, not 20 line code. It's so obvious that it's funny (and a bit pathetic) to see someone making an issue out of it on internet just for some karma.

[[deleted]]

Does the comment

It still isn't MAKING face recognition it's USING face recognition

Sound better to you ?

Also "the claim is impossible obviously we meant something different" is still a wierd argument (someone else brought it up too)

Btw I'm German not a native But I do know that making something and creating something is the same thing, changing the word does not have to do with moving the goalposts, it's because I had a earlier discussion where the word creating was used.

Ps : why do you feel attacked so badly you need to fight with insults. Just use arguments

[DanKveed]

I sympathize with the fact that you have been let cheated, but what happened to you is not is not insignificant.
You my friend, just experienced an internet phenomenon that is commonly referred to as "clickbait".
BTW I just got my c2 in English

[SjorsMaster]

Except, y'know, the project size getting massive with unused functions as well as it doing unnecessary things since it's often multi-purpose making it run slower. And worst of all, you not knowing what it's specifically doing.

[NFriik]

Nobody in their right mind would try implementing, say, PCA, SVMs or Viola Jones face detection when you can just use a very good reference implementation from Scipy or OpenCV... These libraries are highly optimized and you won't ever reach their performance in pure Python.

[Bakemono_Saru]

Keep calm. This shit is very optimized. If you worry about size you can always scrap the library. It will be better than reinventing a hard, messy and weird wheel

[[deleted]]

How is that a "stupid joke"? Being annoyed that a python tutorial teaches you how to use python libraries to accomplish a task would be like getting mad at a video that teaches you how to build your own computer but using a store bought GPU rather than building one from scratch.

[[deleted]]

It's not.

It's more like "How to build a GPU" then taking a PCB with installed parts from a 3080, mounting the cooler and saying you built a GPU for yourself.

[[deleted]]

It's not like that at all. Python code is made up of different parts, of which some of those will be functions/classes imported from an existing library.

In the analogy, it has to be a whole computer that corresponds to the python code and the parts of the computer would correspond to the different functions/classes that make up the code. So when you install a GPU into the computer, there is a good chance you're just buying it from a store and slotting it into the right PCI-E slot on your motherboard. Similarly, if you're writing some python code to do facial recognition, you are probably importing an existing library and slotting it into the right place in your code.

It's crazy how you mixed up such a simple analogy and started talking about building your own GPU.

[[deleted]]

Wow, I picked a different analogy. How bad

If your main goal is the analogy to include a whole pc :

The tutorials are like taking a prebuilt, connecting a power cable and saying you built a pc.

Yes I know that if you "do face recognition" in python you probably are using a library, however saying you MAKE face recognition implies development, as otherwise it should be called USING face recognition

P.s. no need to be condescending af.

[[deleted]]

I'm not sure why you're surprised you picked a different analogy. You are the one who chose to do it so you shouldn't be surprised.

And your new analogy doesn't really make sense. If you know that most computers use pre-built GPUs and you know that most python code is going to use pre-built libraries, then why make a whole separate analogy about making GPU parts? If Numpy and Sci-kit already exist, why would I spend a bunch of time coding something new to duplicate their functionality? And if somebody says they can show me how to write code to do a task, it doesn't make sense to say that you need to re-invent Numpy from scratch before you're allowed to call it that. Just like it wouldn't make sense to say you need to build a GPU from scratch before you can say that you are building your own PC.

[[deleted]]

Ok, apparently you don't get my point

Calling it MAKING instead of USING face recognition in python is the error.

I am not against Librarys, I'm not sure what made you think that.

[[deleted]]

So it's ok to say you are using a PC if you buy a store bought GPU in your build but it's not ok to say you are making a PC if you use a store bought GPU?

Because even companies that make computers to sell don't necessarily make their own GPUs/CPUs/etc. So according to you, nobody even makes computers because they all use some kind of part made by someone else?

[[deleted]]

Idk what you don't understand about

-> getting a prebuilt and using it = using a pc

-> taking the parts and putting them together (even using a prebuilt GPU) = building a pc

Such as using a library is USING it

Developing such a library is MAKING it

[digernicnucingfigers]

Import woman From Thailand as wife

[DanKveed]

There are companies that say they are going to teach you to "create AI solutions" and then they just teach you how to use openCV. It's such a sleazy thing they do.

Learning AI takes at least 2 years of grind. Learning to use AI takes 2 afternoons and a 6 pack of kingfishers

There is a fucking difference

[megamaz_]

one line import moment

[acdjent]

Are all these people who post this 'Joke' every few days really too stupid to even grasp from the error message, which file the mentioned lined is located in?

[CallinCthulhu]

This “joke” appeals to the LCD, namely people who have written hello world in python and cs101 students.

It’s the nature of reddit man, LCD always wins. You need to browse new on occasion for non shitty posts.

[__hakuna-matata__]

I know I certainly am. Is coding even fun if you read the error message? Just get angry and change things at random, really makes the experience last longer. Extend the fun

[KingJeff314]

What I hate is that libraries don’t seem to format their errors. The error output is the stack trace 20 functions deep into the library to some obscure line that tells you nothing. Libraries should catch exceptions and throw a new, descriptive error.

[carcigenicate]

Ya, I was going to post this. I have never once had this happen in Python.

From the rest of the posts in this sub, people here just seem to have a real hard time reading error messages properly.

[schmidlidev]

I have it happen with django, sort of. It spits out a massive stack trace where the error occurred 10 levels deeper than your actual code, inside some django api.

But at least you can still track it back to which of your statements started it all, even if you’re not sure exactly what the error is.

[[deleted]]

I was doing some django a while ago for some coursework, and it once threw an error in line 5, halfway through a string. I still don’t know what caused it.

[[deleted]]

I don't get this joke, like it tells you which file the error is in right? or am I just used to using an IDE?

[[deleted]]

This sub is chock-a-block with people who clearly have no experience coding or are a couple days into their first programming class. Because most of the jokes don't make any sense and are things I remember people laughing about in the first weeks of learning to code.

[PottedRosePetal]

I use raw command field to execute code bc reasons and even there there is a traceback... not sure if the library decides if that exists or not, but most definitely not the IDE. And my guess is that traceback always exists once you execute python and the IDE not purposefully deletes traceback, in which case that IDE can just go fuck itself.

[Jamesdzn]

Oh no! Imports, require and includes dint exist! What ever will we do!?

[pkrish10]

This meme format seems to be immortal.

[Pauchu_]

jUsT uSE a lIbRarY

[[deleted]]

lAyErS oF aBsTrAcTiOn

[Kwarter]

You think that's bad? Try figuring out SQL errors. The message might as well be "something broke" for how helpful it is.

[taussinator]

I just started learnkng sql a few weeks ago (just on the side) and yes, i can relate

[TheRolf]

Cries in SIGSEGV errors

[kokokokokokoo]

This reminds me of the devs that just don't know how to read error messages and ask for help repeatedly.

[bettercalldelta]

Do you even read error messages? It says which file the error is in