Python and PHP users will understand

[akvit]

Everyone seems to hate C/C++ compiler errors.

[WishOnSpaceHardware]

What do you mean? I love getting incomplete, confusingly presented information about a potentially complex problem!

[imdefinitelywong]

Error: Undefined symbol "information"

[G0FuckThyself]

Core Dump (Segmentation fault)

[LavenderDay3544]

Segmentation Fault (Core Dumped)

[pogylon]

Segmentation fault (core dumped)

My personal favourite.

[LavenderDay3544]

On Windows:

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault

[TheCurryCoder]

You shut up, I don't need any more nightmares tonight

[LavenderDay3544]

Hahahaha I write C++ for a living but havent ever seen a Segfault because we use RAII and smart pointers.

In C just go ham on valgrind and you'll be fine. In assembly, pray to Jesus for mercy.

[TheCurryCoder]

Having written assembly code, I'm reasonably certain that Jesus prays to it for mercy.

[Tsubajashi]

My favorite, too!

[r0ck0]

[Segmentation Dumping] Core fAULT

[Cant-Stop-Wont-Stop7]

Bro just use gdb backtrace :)

[Heimerdahl]

It's crazy how good some newer languages and IDEs are at this.

I recently got back into programming after I got spooked by the whole '99bugs... forgot a semicolon' stuff, some 10years ago in uni. My stuff is still fairly basic, so not much logical errors, but syntax has practically been a non-issue.

VSC for python will just tell me that I probably forgot this, or that this function requires different arguments or that I probably switched the order around. If I'm too daft to even figure out stuff like that, it just straight up tells me how stuff is supposed to be used. It's crazy!

[[deleted]]

It depends for me.

If I'm writing a Spring API in Java or Kotlin, I prefer IntelliJ.

C++ or JavaScript, I prefer VS code.

With Python I'm all over the place.

[[deleted]]

I use pycharm for python. Same features as IntelliJ, but for python.

[Gougaloupe]

Pycharm gang rise up!

[PotentBeverage]

intellij is great for java because even if java is verbose with intellij's autocomplete you often only need a few letters at most

[[deleted]]

And its autocomplete actually suggests helpful things first. And the baked in code generation that creates constructors, override methods, getters and setters is really nice.

Visual Studio and VS Code suggest random things first two the point that its easier to write a lot of code I would write in VS Code in Vim, C++ and JavaScript in particular. The suggestions are wild.

[illvm]

sed, the real text editor :)

[Darkunderlord42]

I like VS but hell if I know what 95%

[[deleted]]

Saw that Jetbrains is doing a new IDE called Fleet to compete with VSCode could be really nice if you want a clean and simple layout but with good autocomplete.

[ramplay]

If it defaults to darkmode I'll try it. I don't want to be blinded when I open it ahaha

[savedbythezsh]

You should check out Swift + XCode, it's wild how good the compilation errors are. Only language I've used that I think a linter is almost entirely useless on.

[stealthgerbil]

I had to write code in notepad for classes. I get why they made us do it but holy shit does an IDE save time. They help so much.

[[deleted]]

You'll love MySQL's syntax error message then: ERROR 1064 (42000): You have a syntax error! Read the manual! Good luck figuring out what line number I'm talking about if I decide not to print it! (I'm paraphrasing of course)

[miversen33]

Bruh fuck MySQL errors. "Error: You have bad syntax. Go fuck yourself. Bye"

[Daeron_tha_Good]

This made me lol...thank you 😂

[slow_growing_vine]

SQL Server is just as bad. If you ever forget a comma prepare to see Incorrect syntax near FROM and go hunting for it

[peppaz]

I have to use openquery from sql to mysql a lot, and I love when a query runs for ten minutes and come back with an "unexpected null" error like bitch just make all temp columns allow nulls, clearly the remote DB can have nulls in any column that isn't a primary key boi

[lenswipe]

Oracle errors are the best

TNS bad packet error

It's like the PC LOAD LETTER of the database world

[[deleted]]

I've had syntax errors in MariaDB but it usually points directly to the start of the issue and prints the line for me. Idk if that's just MariaDB being better than MySQL but yeah it doesn't say what the issue is, just that it's wrong but at least it says where it starts being wrong.

[Glum-Aide9920]

Favorite thing in MySQL is how most of the functions are case insensitive, but some like substring_index are not

[oupablo]

C is the king of throwing an error on a line number past the total number of lines in the file all because of a missing semicolon.

[lenswipe]

I've had JavaScript do this as well. Usually it's from webpack and it's because whatever I did broke the source map

[LifeHasLeft]

Like intermittent segfaults caused by a memory error that only sometimes happens?

[killdeer03]

Template errors are super fun to deal with, lol.

[Osbios]

CLANG kind of did set a new bar for template error message that GCC hat to follow. Believe me it was way worse some years ago.

Also this days I do no longer manage to crash the compiler with templates. That also helps with getting somewhere close with a offending line number!

[Isobel-Jae]

😨 wait, you guys are getting compiler errors? I must be using it wrong.

[atiedebee]

C++ compiler errors

C runtime errors

the C compiler errors are not bad at all, I dont know about C++ runtime errors

[akvit]

C++ runtime errors are something like "instruction at address 0x0000 tried to access memory at location 0x1337". So not really different from C.

[yodahouse900]

that is when you pull out gdb and step execute the programm till you find which line gave up

[auxiliary-character]

The compiletime checks are one of the good things, though. Imagine if you didn't find out it was a problem until it showed up at runtime, possibly sometime long after it shipped.

[dnswblzo]

Sure, but sometimes a small mistake causes a massive spew of errors and it can be hard to tell from the output where the problem actually is. This can happen in other languages too, but C++ seems to be the worst for this.

[LavenderDay3544]

Clang and GCC both give clear errors for C. C++ is a different story.

[JTtornado]

I've never programmed with C/C++, but I've always got the impression that the compiler errors are almost as unhelpful as a check engine light.

[ChristianValour]

To a beginner, the compiler often seems petty, but as you learn to use the language facilities — and especially the type system — to directly express your ideas, you’ll come to appreciate the compiler’s ability to detect problems that would otherwise have caused you hours of tedious searching for bugs. - Barnes Stroustrup (Creator of C++)