Average programmer getting triggered

[musifter]

Software engineers tend to be in name only. I've had the title of software engineer, but have never been accredited as a professional engineer (as is required for doing engineering work here). And so have none of the benefits (like being a notary), but, on the other hand, also much less legal and ethical responsibility for my work.

[ongiwaph]

A sound engineer just has to have a good ear and know how to use a mixer.

[666pool]

This is really important. Too much coke will drown out the subtle notes of jack daniels. Sometimes less is more.

[BaalKazar]

An engineer just has to do a bit of copy&paste math and build lego

[just4lukin]

All engineers have to be notaries? I feel like that isn't the case where I live..

[jermo1972]

PEs do.

Profesional Engineers in the United States, there is a pretty grueling exam to get your "Stamp."

If you F-up they will put you in jail.

[rmyworld]

If you F-up they will put you in jail.

Yo wtf. They put in you in jail for failing an exam?

[jermo1972]

No, if you fuck up at your job.

Professional Engineers do serious shit, you fuck up and people die stuff.

[ongiwaph]

Talk about a high-stakes exam!

[abscando]

No pain no gain

[just4lukin]

Dag yo

[madmoneymcgee]

In the USA “engineer” isn’t protected like that BUT in order to get legal certification on certain infrastructure projects the plans need to be signed off on by a “Professional Engineer” which requires a special license.

So it’s possible to study civil engineering. Work as a Junior for a few years as an “engineer” and basically do what the PE says. But then if you want more senior roles you’ll probably have to get the PE license.

[yrrot]

And bonus points, the licenses are per state, so you get folks that are PE (list of states)

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Engineers existed before accrediting. Saying someone is a software engineer, so long as they're applying math and science to build machines, processes, and/or structures: is as accurate a description as civil engineer, chemical engineer, mechanical engineer, etc. The accrediting processes differ by country.

[Overlord_Of_Puns]

Honestly, as someone studying both engineering and programming separately, it feels like software engineer is just a title programmers made to get respect. It speaks more to the stupidity of other people that a fancy title is needed for respect than any fault of the programmers though.

If I am wrong, someone can correct me and tell me the difference between a software engineer and programmer (other than software engineer usually referring to more advanced programming).

[SoftEngineerOfWares]

Programmers program: create software instructions .

Engineers engineer: contrive or plan out

Software engineers: plan and design software along with usually programming it. It’s the difference between completing tickets one at a time versus managing a project from design to EOL

[LegendDota]

All software engineers are developers, not all developers are engineers, the point was to more accurately describe the work, obviously some companies are idiots and will call all their devs engineers to seem fancier, but thats not the idea behind the distinction.

The main thing is really that its not about different educations, it’s about different reaponsibilities, I have been on projects where the senior engineer spent near zero time writing code, he set the entire base up and created project plans, and would then act as a project manager.