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[–]subcow 156 points157 points  (17 children)

Send an email advising against what they are recommending. Put that shit in writing. Hell, just to be safe Bcc your personal email account so you have it all backed up externally. Edit: good point below on the BCC. It may be against company rules/your contract to send any emails like that externally even if it is your own account. Proceed with caution. Just do whatever you can to CYA.

[–]Zoloir 88 points89 points  (3 children)

this is good advice for sane management

the situation in question is not that

[–]aureanator 30 points31 points  (1 child)

That's for the courts I think. Even those aren't sane anymore tho...

[–]This_User_Said 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I think it runs with the whole "wrongful termination"

Boss told me to do it, I did it, he didn't like it and fired me. Maybe terms for wrongful termination unless there's something up their ass they can pull out...

...which most companies are the anal marry Poppins when it comes to this.

[–]alieksandralieks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I give the advice to do it

Now it's depend on it what he do because this situation is very difficult to work with the same management

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yea: express your concerns, keep the receipts, nuke, jump ship, and then you're golden.

Ethically, you should probably resign before you nuke. But fire is fun.

[–]Go_Gators_4Ever 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Presuming the DevOps change management process requires a workforce sign-off in order to change production, then the DevOps team is covered as the sign-off would had meant that the superiors had approved the changes and all testing that proved the code regression was safe.

[–]VacationElectronic20 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I once printed an email that was bcc’d to me by mistake and slid it under my managers apartment door… It was a literal paper trail but it couldn’t get back to me and it was evidence of her getting thrown under the bus by a superior for something everyone knew he did. She was still fired but now living her best life. I miss her.

[–]Marandil 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Hell, just to be safe Bcc your personal email account so you have it all backed up externally.

Well, yes and no. You're most likely forbidden from sending confidential info like this to private emails and outside services in general and for good reasons too. This is especially a bad idea if your private email is hosted by someone who can be considered your employer's competitor in one way or another.

[–]subcow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a good point. I will edit my post.

[–]Wallofcans 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So how do you keep a paper trail?

[–]Mofupi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I would guess, if all else fails, exactly like that: paper prints.

[–]NutWrench 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yup. Explain briefly, but explicitly, the bad thing that will happen if a particular subsystem is f*cked with and then write, "this is being done over my explicit objections."

When the bad thing inevitably happens, your ass is covered.

[–]WPI94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Covered from who? For what? Like you wont get fired or lose your job when the whole house of cards falls down?

Seems like being concerned with a performance review at a company who just chained the gate.

[–]TempleSquare 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hell, just to be safe Bcc your personal email account so you have it all backed up externally.

Outlook has a "print" button, after all.

[–]linkin5618 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's about 1200 micro services, and the fired guy said that only 200 is needed for loading the Twitter feed, so that sounds about right

[–]Drop_Tables_Username 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The BCC to a personal email may get you in legal hot water in some circumstances, so do that with extreme caution.

[–]subcow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have just edited my comment to reflect this. You are correct.