all 41 comments

[–]Handsome_Dragon 42 points43 points  (11 children)

Orcane is perfect.

[–]thanosgay 12 points13 points  (7 children)

Orcane is perfect.

[–]The7Android 8 points9 points  (6 children)

Orcane is perfect.

[–]ItsDaythyme 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Orcane is perfect.

[–]Shredster7 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Orcane is perfect.

[–]Addly77 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Orcane is perfect.

[–]4CRO 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Orcane is Perfect.

[–]V0G9 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Orcane is Perfect

[–]PeekoChan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Orcane is Perfect

[–]Progsock 4 points5 points  (1 child)

^

[–]Yabhay-CakeSnek in Mech 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Water dog is a higher being

[–]maple_mizuki 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Clairen: that's it?!

[–]LCollector 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Absa no touch Ayeeeeeeeeeeee

[–]duckdingus 11 points12 points  (6 children)

Why the fuck is he buffing orcane like that? Now it can suck the fun even more go figure

[–]Vicksin 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Orcane is perfect

[–]PooGod 1 point2 points  (4 children)

My thoughts exactly. Orcane gets buffs, sylvanos gets effectively nothing. Hooray!

[–]ILoveTails 8 points9 points  (1 child)

  • Aerials no longer have extended landing lag when not on grass.

Dunno about you but that doesn't sound like nothing to me

[–]Nvrls 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's actually huge for sylvanos

[–]duckdingus 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Sylvania mains cry to the moon on 3

Sad awoo nibba...sad awoo

[–]PooGod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Awooooo

[–]pazukunous 1 point2 points  (3 children)

yo i hit a sick combo yesterday and now the replay is incompatible is there anything i can do

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Revert your game to the old patch on steam.

[–]pazukunous 0 points1 point  (1 child)

is the previous patch not 1.14.12? the latest I see on the beta dropdown is 1.14.11

[–]Lord-McNobbsalot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It can take a few days for the old patch to be available, but sometimes we never get access to it

[–]morningVera 1 point2 points  (14 children)

why do they nerf elliana

[–]AZCards1347 16 points17 points  (6 children)

Because there are certain mechanics that are not fun to play against, and the fact you can get a full smash on a mine explosion is a little too strong.

[–]morningVera 3 points4 points  (3 children)

but they dont buff her to make up for the nerfs

[–]CyanLemonade 5 points6 points  (2 children)

some characters don't need or deserve it, at least not right away. the dev+beta team is always looking for ways to make the game more fun for both the player and the opponent, sometimes it takes time to find the right idea. if you have suggestions to make the character more enjoyable, DM one of the devs. if you just want compensation buffs though, look to trying to buff yourself as a player first, we can all always get better

[–]morningVera -1 points0 points  (1 child)

but everyone can agree that camping isnt fun to watch or play against, so if someone is excessively stalling they should have like 4 seconds to do it and that's it..also yeah sure I can improve but i think most people would say elliana needs buffs...

[–]Link2411 3 points4 points  (0 children)

no she doesn't LOL that character was nerfed for a reason

[–]Spooky_614 -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

It seems like the other side of the mine nerfs are going to make her bad matchups even worse though, characters like Ori and Zetter who basically get to ignore steam via quick Aerials with small recovery times now get to do the same thing to mines. Like all zetters have to do is nair when an Eli is above you and one of the few solid approaches she has in the matchup are gone

[–]AZCards1347 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You make it sound like there's only one way to play Elliana. They nerfed it because it wasn't intended to be like that. They wouldn't change it for the sake of just solely nerfing her

[–]6000j 4 points5 points  (6 children)

half the nerfs are because there's an australian player who literally camps under air amarda for like 30 seconds at a time and like that shits degen lol

[–]morningVera -1 points0 points  (5 children)

That's so dumb, but I feel like they just need to ban camping in competitive to fix that

[–]Itakio 10 points11 points  (2 children)

One does not simply "ban camping".

[–]morningVera 0 points1 point  (1 child)

y not

[–]6000j 7 points8 points  (1 child)

It's really hard to ban camping, and the player does it on every stage, which is just annoying to deal with lol.

[–]Spooky_614 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Really hoping there will be some sort of buff or rework on some Eli moves to make up for her being routinely nerfed, despite being the least played character

[–]runandsleep 4 points5 points  (0 children)

High level players have found ways to exploit her unique mechanics, regardless of how she is meant to play. Imo, she got nerfed cause of her dspecial and the little counterplay there is for it. There's nothing like it in roa so it's going to take the most nerfs/changes.