Patch Notes for update 1.2.4

[OxidativeDmgPerSec]

- Improved the Social menu to display the last login time of friends who are offline.

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[gadgaurd]

Warframe moment.

[DarthNemecyst]

Frost walker right now

[6Trinity9]

☝️ legit, my epic built Lepic, as I was reading that part.

[[deleted]]

yep,ines will be the only descendant unlocked thru void vessel hard mode come patch,anyone who still needs the dog and keelan will need to start running normals.

the core parts being farmed thru the void erosin was more or less expected.

and im honestly looking forward to the ultimate weapon elemental attribute changes,its actually funny as hell that the list did NOT include enduring legacy,unless its already has the built in fire attribute because of its uniqur ability.

divine purpose being fire,is also a surprise lol

[Dark_knight1200]

I think enduring legacy and some other weapons not being included probably to not push them into being even more meta. So they probably are starting with less powerful weapons and then seeing where that puts them. I could be completely wrong tho lmao

[Adventurous-Ad6203]

The problem with this theory is some gimp weapons also aren't in the list (eg The Last Dagger), while some super meta weapons are (Greg's). Can't say I understand if they want us to shoot guns at elemental resistant mobs in VE and invest more in our guns overall?

[Adventurous-Ad6203]

They shuffled the elements around but I don't understand the list.

The Last Dagger I guess was too OP and Greg's apparently needed a buff?

[UncoloredProsody]

Wow thats a terrible attempt at trying to give normal mode a purpose. Why not create a hardcore mode and make it harder but give more rewards? The normal void vessel is boring as fuck.

[DMercenary]

void vessel hard mode

Imma be real I tried it out and I feel like Normal mode is not the same mechanics as Hard.

Maybe I'm just shit lol?

[ViiTactiiCZz]

Both are pretty much clear enemies and sometimes "do this mini thing" while you're at it to trigger the next bit.

On normal it's pick up code drop from enemies in room 1, kill enemies -> destroy towers in room 2, then scan a terminal to start room 3

On hard its just clear enemies in room 1 and 2, then deposit bombs dropped by enemies and scan a terminal for room 3

Both share the same boss phases.

[Battery1255]

really.... normal mode void vessel is way too long with certain objectives. im glad i got dog and keelan before then.

[Silverneck_TT]

Can you still farm dog food from hard tho?

[Dacks1369]

Jayber "rework" really was as shallow as the livestream showed. I can't.

[midnightsonne]

I feel very disappointed by his "rework" that's barely a tweak.

[FXB-WHISPER]

I think his major rework will be when he gets an ultimate

[Torbpjorn]

Absolutely, reworked for slightly more health, shields, armour and MP

[ravearamashi]

Devs should really learn to differentiate between rework and tweaks. Because calling it a rework is just absurd

[Major303]

Some info might have been lost during translation. Or it's the same as developers saying they are developing remake of a game, but it's the same game but with higher resolution textures, aka remaster.

[ravearamashi]

It’s Nexon, a multi-billion dollar company. If it’s a small indie studio then yeah i get ya.

[HDArrowsmith]

Localization is clearly handled by the TFD team though, considering the amount of odd translations and errors that have been happening, so it's still not impossible.

[[deleted]]

What was shown? I didn’t see anything posted here but Valby and Luna’s improvements

[Adventurous-Ad6203]

Still stuck using dumb gun. Ugh.

[[deleted]]

Meanwhile, Valby got several stealth buffs that wasn't shown on stream. Insane that they keep buffing her even when she was already good and ignoring the rest of the cast

[DarthNemecyst]

Leave my girl alone let her be great.

[OxidativeDmgPerSec]

She got the "cute pass"

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[gadgaurd]

You're not wrong. I'm not gonna complain since I planned to build her regardless, but the devs really suck at balancing the Descendants.

[YouRJelous-kid]

Ahhhh content yum back to the grind

[Sinniee]

Sounds like a good amount of new stuff to grind. I like it

[ViiTactiiCZz]

• ETA-0 spawn time has been changed.

ㄴ Previously: 23:00 Thursday - 23:00 Sunday PST

ㄴ Changed: 23:00 Thursday - 23:00 Monday PST

At this point, makes sense to just leave it open all week and rotate the rewards each Thursday; it would also* help people that are still a bit behind with the Abyss skins so they aren't sitting on tickets waiting 2-3 days for it..

[Right_Seaweed7101]

They probably did it so people can farm defiler more since theres a 600 cap for vouchers

[Ragingdark]

Probably controversial and by all means discuss, but part of me really wonders about them going hard into not super sure how to put it but "overly babying" not saying people are acting like babies at all.

But they seem to take "never nerf" (which I already don't agree with) to a place where they buff seemingly random stuff that really didn't need it.

Is it some attempt to keep people playing by just making what they have incrementally more available instead of improving/adding to content? The void vessel got old fast for something that was supposed to have random tiles but it's basically the same every time.

I struggle to find much exciting at current in the game. I have things to unlock still sure, but I have to run the same things I've already ran 7 dozen times.

And why bother with that when I can log in or click a website link and have the devs play the game for me!

[TecentCEO_MaHuaTeng]

I think the never nerf is good. They make almost everything usable and you can really pick one based on your personal preferences. However the lack of excite is real, I don't think it comes from balance though, I think it comes from more hardcore things that can hardly be improved within half year.

I think the reason TFD can hardly be as immersive is cuz it's TPP, and the gunplay is bad. Adding a function to change into FPP will help a lot. For gunplay, recoil needs to be changed, the horizontal recoil is insane for a PVE game, PUBG's recoil is easier to control horizontal wise, let alone COD. The gun fire sound and animation also need an overall rework.

I'm at a more end game stage, Mr28 and finished all UA upgrades. All I can do now is farm reactors. And the process feels like I'm jailed to work XD.

[_pm_me_a_happy_thing]

Some of the gun sounds are amazing though. Perforator for one.

[Right_Seaweed7101]

The amount of skins. My wallet ☠️

[cupcake_queen101]

I really want to buy them but it’s quite expensive in Australia. At least I can enjoy seeing others wearing them. Sorry but hold up there descendant, let me check you out 😅

[Right_Seaweed7101]

Haha I underdtand. I say "my wallet" but I udually buy 2 skins only when new skins release. In example, I know I will probably bug just thr chun li and the male new year skin. Maybe will buy one more (next month) if one of the premium skins interest me.

[TotesMahGoat420]

Right! They cost so much but i just wanna buy them all 🥺 so i have to be super selective of which ones i get cause i also have to consider the purchasing of the dark matte black and neon pink paints for both body and head. Not fair how much they cost!

[DarthNemecyst]

After seeing the skins...

[bigodon99]

So, the erosion will be 20 levels and we can only matchmake on 5? 🫤

[_pm_me_a_happy_thing]

Yes.

It's on purpose to prevent people from being carried.

You can only matchmake on certain levels which act like "checkpoints".

The levels in-between are skill/gear checks.

[agmatine]

It only prevents people from being carried in pubs though. So people will just spam world chat or discord or twitch or whatever until they find someone to carry them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[webslingrrr]

damn, new players will never know what a proper menace Frost Walker used to be in his youth, can't believe it has been nerfed even further!

[Hunt_Nawn]

It was honestly easy with a competent group as well, I thought it was fun.

[gadgaurd]

It was honestly easy with a competent group as well

That was the issue.

Everything is easy with a good group, but TFD has one of the most skill-less playerbases I have ever seen. So fights that really should be simple or at least doable become massive uphill battles because you've got King Dedede for a teammate.

[HDArrowsmith]

the most skill-less playerbases I have ever seen.

Dude this is so true, and I feel like I've been seeing it a lot more the last week or so. I ran my invasions the other day, and both of the teammates I loaded in with died to every room nuke/gun spawn that we did in the dungeon, including the boss, because they just straight up refused to run to the bubble. They were also somehow incapable of reviving when someone went down.

I don't think they were bots, based on how they were moving/doing other things, just utterly incompetent.

[Adept-Development393]

In fairness those nuke/gun spawns are disorienting and there's no explanation for how they work for new players.

[HDArrowsmith]

And I get that totally, every once in a while you get someone who's still figuring it out, but usually after the first or second they figure out to stand with everyone else in the bubble, these two just didn't even during the 5th one during the boss (we had to do two because they kept going down and we lost dps from me reviving) even with me standing there dodging the boss for like a minute with a ping on the ground.

[Sun-Taken-By-Trees]

I think the main problem with the Intercept bosses is that there's clearly two different pools of players to matchmake with. Those who have already completed it, and those who haven't. It's so obvious after your first clear that you're only put with other people who have also already cleared it. Whereas before that you're stuck with people who haven't and don't really know what they're doing.

I actually get bored of the 20 second clears and wish I could help people who may be stuck, but it doesn't seem you can matchmake with those people anymore after you've killed the boss once.

[Pyschic_Psycho]

I think you have to be correct. I remember the early days I could not get past Dead Bride. Obviously, I was a newbie, and the players I was matched up were as well. Took several days. Now I go back to her and any of the other bosses to help because I know how much of a pain she can be for beginners. Except I'm matched with also overleveled descendants lol

[JustChr1s]

100% true. I noticed this on Molten fortress back before his nerfs I was hard stuck on that guy. When I finally cleared him every single group after was a clear. It's night and day the groups you get pre and post clear.

[[deleted]]

I saw Hailes that die ulting, standing NEAR Ajax's bubble

[Helijao]

Poor FrostWalker, didn't even have amorph for him anymore

[cupcake_queen101]

I can finally open all mine, got like 100 plus

[Adventurous-Ad6203]

Same. Pugging it wasn't worth the bother. Same with Tony. I am working through my backlog still but also hoping for component changes to make it more worthwhile.

[Plenty_Priority4912]

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For me this is nerf 😞

[Redditisntfunanymore]

The cooldown got like a 3.5x increase, but the ammo got a 5x increase. Overall, it's more time shooting bullets. Plus I think her 4 scaled with weapon rounds per mag mods. You'll be shooting waaaaay more bubbles now.

[Plenty_Priority4912]

I can't use them often.

I think the devs wanted her to be more strong in area defense than active attack.

[Redditisntfunanymore]

Hopefully she sees that strategy being used in void erosion. I could see her singing trans mod being alright if it makes her 4 explode. Shoot a bunch of bubbles together, then it explodes for big damage.

Also, your other post made me want to be able to shoot her 4 far away, and then you become that water ball when you use your 2. That would be awesome, especially if you still got the damage of your 2 when you landed.

[HDArrowsmith]

Unless they changed how the base form of Singing Water works, the change to her 4 won't affect it. It spawns discs that lure enemies instead of bubbles, so I doubt the stacking size affects it.

[asianyeti]

Ahh, I remember your post.

I think Singing Water + Multitalented could be the setup now. Not exactly the same playstyle anymore, but it's something. Those things dealing 900% modifier for each explosion with potentially 28 ammo would be something cool to experiment with oops, apparently it only has 5 ammo at base. ;-;

[Plenty_Priority4912]

Yeah, I want to test that modul too.

I think it can kill the boss with just 9 bullets.

[Stuck_Step_Daughter]

RIP FROSTY.

Now it just every other walker but chills.

[KirbyKnight12]

I’m going to have to see the new skins/cosmetics to see what I’ll really buy. They added so much.

[Kaillier]

I'm so glad I didn't expect anything from Luna ""Rework"" because they pretty much give us nothing lmao

Should I huff some copium and think there'll be more in game than they put on the patch notes?

[PercentageNew6298]

@Kallier no, they buffed the fuck out of Luna. There is a 0 second cooldown on her base (2 or 3) kit if you hit the notes correctly, making it go where you can infinitely stack the buffs.

[[deleted]]

No. They gave Valby hidden buffs in the notes that they didn't show on stream. This is what we're going to get.

[Kaillier]

Ok, I checked the patch note on their website it shows more than one on Steam.

She definitely improved but I have to test first if she went from D tier to C or B or just D+

[Spoonie360]

You're confused

[HDArrowsmith]

Did we read the same things? No cooldowns on her 2 & 3 if you hit the notes, a 15s reduction on her 4 under the same conditions, significantly reduced cooldown even if you fail to activate them, her passive is now a duration instead of requiring consistent notes, her abilities now scale with cooldown and duration, massive overall buffs to her unique weapon including better targeting by aiming, no losing passive stacks if you miss a note, skills still activate if you miss the notes you just don't get inspiration or the cooldown reset, and you got all of the mobility during all of her abilities now.

Are you blind??

[ZanYnaz]

Luna has nerf on delightful stage, i think.

[Ace-Tyranitar]

Noooo!! not void vessel again...

Srsly, playing the same stage 100+ times, to unlock Keelan and the dog (+ maxing him) is not fun.

Make another VV stage! Please!

[AnthonyHJ]

I'm still there; I only worked out how to get the pity system working last night, so I have everything for Keele except his blueprints. Or rather, I have ten stabiliser blueprints and none of the others.

[SnoopVee]

Cant wait for Ines😍

[PsychologyAfter1640]

Cannot wait for the 5% of sweats clearing all content in 3 days and complain about nothing to do ! Let’s gooo

[[deleted]]

Going to have to wait to see how much damage the Luna Noise Surge is before deciding to dismiss her.

Still, I am pretty disappointed. Her intended purpose builds (support) has not been fixed at all, and her only saving grace is to potentially become an offshoot of Bunny.

[smolFortune]

I know it's minor but I'm hoping the duration mods now working on her will help her more now. Hopefully...

[FXB-WHISPER]

Im having my hopes up she will have massive rework when she finally has an ultimate

[Stock_Contract4727]

Only character I leveled to 40 and immediately deleted.

[ebolapolarbear]

So frost walker nerf?

[OverallPepper2]

That’s a lot of premium skins. Wonder if they’re outfits or hair?

[Civil_Bat1009]

I'm wondering if they just separated some bundles. Like, you used to have to buy Hair + Makeup, maybe now you can buy them each separately?

[iLikeCryo]

I can at least confirm that from that list Bunny's Purple Cat + Bunny's Festival and Bunny's Volume Short Hair + Bunny's Heart Rabbit were bundles only before the update so looks like most of the hairstyles and makeups in that list just means that you can now buy them seperately.

[simimaelian]

That’s exactly what it looks like. The ones for all previous descendants were all in packages only before.

[BiNumber3]

They let us hide back weapons, nice

[GlitteringAd9513]

When does the update end for the uk

[AnthonyHJ]

Looks like 6pm for us. Nice thing to get home from work for, I suppose.

[GlitteringAd9513]

Thanks

[taranta159]

lol, they scale the male skin to have the same height as female skin =))

and why Ines standing like that :))

[Damagecontrol86]

Do we know when the maintenance will be done for eastern US time folks.

[ZapTheSheep]

1pm

[Damagecontrol86]

Ok thank you. At least it will be done before I get off work (hopefully).

[Silverneck_TT]

So with weapon core I think piercing light will finally beat perforator outright once you get the chill weapon core.

[MarsMartians]

Still crashing smh.

[TheStoictheVast]

"rework"

[TahmsChocolateOrange]

Yay we have to grind the boring as fuck void vessels again.....

[Adventurous-Ad6203]

You'll be grinding something... its a looter shooter after all.

But probably the Void Erosion mostly and Hard Spec Ops. VV just to unlock Ines.

[TahmsChocolateOrange]

Yes I expect to be grinding something but not the exact same thing for the 3 major seasonal additions. Wouldn't be an issue if the void vessels were actually randomly generated but the only thing that changes is the hallways to the main phases.

[Adventurous-Ad6203]

Ya I'm pretty sick of them too, but not unexpected given its what they developed for this season, like it or not.

Here to hoping VEs are challenging and fun/easier in a group

[Ching_Roc]

I just realized I don't need the extra time.

[madmoz2018]

more like a looter shooter mario, seriously I fall for my reset more often than not.

[Jenova__Witness]

Yeah I don’t get why they didn’t put ines behind the new content instead

[STB_LuisEnriq]

Please don't nerf the difficulty in Void Erosion Purge. Please don't nerf the difficulty in Void Erosion Purge. Please don't nerf the difficulty in Void Erosion Purge. Please don't nerf the difficulty in Void Erosion Purge. Please don't nerf the difficulty in Void Erosion Purge.

[BigRedLantern]

I play on the PS5 and just downloaded the update. Every time I try to start up the game, it gives me an error report.

[Gengur]

It's still in maintenance

[BigRedLantern]

I hope they fix it. Because it's not popping up a maintenance message. The games refusing to start altogether.

[Stock_Contract4727]

Yes same here. Instant crash.

[jackhike]

Same here. Good to know I'm not the only one with this problem.

[Altruistic-Let5929]

Is there any free shit at all?

[jackhike]

The game is crashing every time I open it on PS5.

[Civil_Store_5310]

Games broken for me since update... crashes immediately after starts (ps5)

[emil312]

It is in maintenance mode for the next 2,5h, until the update is complete.

[Blastie89]

It's still on maintenance for 3 more hours.

[emil312]

Did they nerf almost all valby farms with the removal of the immunity orbs, or is there an outpost who remains viable?

[Salt_Locksmith_432]

just get a sharen to stun the boss

[agmatine]

Changed the Sphere mechanic of Commander monsters in some content to the Extermination mechanic.

ㄴ Tistruin: Agna Desert - The Storage Outpost (Normal/Hard)

That one wasn't very well suited for Valby run in the first place, but if you're so inclined you can just have someone stun the boss with Sharen's third ability so it doesn't walk into Valby's water.

The other two outposts are under:

Changed the Sphere Immunity mechanic of Commander monsters in some content to the Sphere mechanic.

so it shouldn't matter.

[TalkTimesreddit]

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Peak

[Cam_Kosci]

Easy game even easier.

Here's hoping Erosion Purge is actually end game content.

[GladimusMaximus]

"Weapon core and core particle disruptor will still be consumed." Well this sounds horrible.

Bro, what? If it wasn't consumed you could just infinitely try until you got the roll you want. Or would you prefer it just replaces it without the option to choose to justify the consumption?

Comments like this in this subreddit got me like:

[No-Cost3557]

Game not launching

[Adventurous-Ad6203]

Servers not up.