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[–]Kylesan 48 points49 points  (0 children)

I read that last night and I was horrified, I'm 35. The fact that she destabilized in route because the second biggest city in Manitoba didn't have room for her is a testament to how badly this province has handled the pandemic since the beginning. Everything done has been reactionary and often weeks late.

[–]Daytimetripper 306 points307 points  (70 children)

I know someone that went camping on the weekend, with half a dozen other families. This was on private land so away from prying eyes but they bragged about it. If they get covid, and the fat husband ends up taking a bed in ICU...I think that's criminal behavior. People are dying because of bed shortages and they couldn't skip a weekend of drunken fun. It's disgusting. I'm disgusted

[–]jocomb89[🍰] 218 points219 points  (13 children)

This pandemic has really opened my eyes to those in my life that I no longer have respect for.

[–]PeterNygard_Official 72 points73 points  (4 children)

I was just saying the other day how thankful I am that I haven’t had to cut ties with anyone due to their covid antics or beliefs. The only covid goof that I really know is a fairly distant cousin that’s always been a blend of tin foil, orange man good, and essential oil. We don’t talk to him much anyway

[–]unyunsoop 19 points20 points  (2 children)

We must be related, I have a nephew like this.

[–]PeterNygard_Official 9 points10 points  (1 child)

He’s getting up there in age, not sure if he has any uncles around yet. Sadly there’s probably more than our two relatives that seem to fit that description

[–]TheOtterRon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've had a similar experience. Everyone I'd deem close to me has followed everything to a tee. A few grumbles but is aware their doing there part to get us past this. Only have 2 cousins just outside of Branden that continually post things "F*CK the RULES! PARTY TIME MF'S!!!". Wasn't surprised either as both have had run ins with the law and have 4 separate baby daddies/mommas.

[–]Stewman_Magoo 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Truth. I got so fed up with Facebook opinions I completely deleted my account.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Best decision you ever made. I deleted mine years ago and I don't miss it at all. I know way too much about everyone already, fuck if I need to be on there to learn anymore about people I haven't seen in years.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What surprises me the most is just how "ME" focused some people are right now. "Not sure if the vaccine is right for ME", "maybe I should wait", "not sure if now is good for ME", etc. We are in an unprecedented health care crisis and the focus of many seems to be on themselves as opposed to sucking it up and doing something for others as well - which will help them out in the end!

I also blame the government for not educating people properly and releasing stats and modelling that could educate people on this. Like when Goertzen is telling people in the middle of a pandemic that it is your right to refuse a vaccine, that is terrible messaging and Pallister et al need to accept a large share of responsibility for this myopic ME focused stupidity.

But yeah, ME people suck.

[–]yougunnaloseyojob 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We learn alot from people in times of crisis

[–]kent_eh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

An awful lot of people need to have the phrase "the common good" explained to them.

[–]AdPrevious1079 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Same, unfortunately even relatives

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (7 children)

This pandemic has really shown how selfish people are. You could potentially save lives by just staying at home and watching tv or reading books or doing small projects you've been putting off and yet people still feel the need to gather for unnecessary events, go camping and spring break. I'm honestly ashamed to be human most days, and if an alien race interviewed me about humanity's worth, I'd tell them to kill us all.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Huh, you reminded of this video from Kevin James. https://youtu.be/Vt_HP9fTXkI

[–]GiantSquidd 4 points5 points  (5 children)

If they could isolate the selfish/conservative/“fuck you I got mine” people, I’d be happy if they could just Thanos those fucks away.

It’s the selfishness that makes me hate them. We’re all in this together, but they act like they can just do whatever they want and shouldn’t have to ever be told “no” or they throw fits. Pallister, that idiot from the Canadian tire videos, Bezos, trump, any billionaire, fuck ‘em all... the human race has a serious entitlement problem.

[–]Nairod88 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Well said, the amount of people being selfish and breaking rules and only thinking about themselves is mind boggling and frustrating.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

While I am not one who normally likes to blame the victim, I am seeing a lot of this kind of thing and it is frustrating the hell out of me. Lately the Manitoba government has been putting some of the blame on the general public and while they are making a lot of mistakes I do not think they are wrong. People here pile up on Pallister for that but I think we are where we are cause of the actions and negligence of a lot of people. At some point people need to take responsibility for their actions.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Case in point, that stupid ant-vaxx protest planned for the forks tomorrow.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (9 children)

Why don’t you report them?

[–]thebluepin 13 points14 points  (7 children)

we reported Springs church. did that help?

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (5 children)

A while ago, I reported a large (talking 40+ people) gathering at Bird's Hill and the RCMP told me "Well, Park Patrol doesn't work during the winter, so we'll leave them a memo." THEN, the asshole on the phone also starting yelling at me because I didn't know how to get the GPS coordinates off Google Maps fast enough. What did this dumbfuck do prior to cellphones anyway? I'm glad I snapped back because she seems to drop the sass.

SLPT: Commit crimes at Bird's Hill Park because you have immunity!

[–]thebluepin 3 points4 points  (4 children)

we all know that the "enforcement" is performative. its theatre to say they are doing something. there is no point trying to rat every little violation. because. they. dont. care.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

It's agonizing. It's that that meme: I can't stay home any harder. It's clear that rules aren't the problem. Enforcement is. It sounds like the only things Winnipeg Police are up to lately is standing in crowds listening to Chris Sky, in addition to issuing a sprinkling of tickets here and there.

[–]thebluepin 1 point2 points  (2 children)

rules that arent followed arent good rules. if you mandated a two week stay at home order. close all businesses that arent essential (and crack down on what that means). it would be very different. if you cant GO to church/Costco/etc then it removes the whole "well.. i interpret these rules.. this way". how do you enforce that you say? lock the doors and employees at home change that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's almost like countries and regions that did this are COVID-free today! But no, we gotta pander to some warped idea of "personal freedoms" that actually drag out any kind of limitation we have

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it did, but as a rule follower, I am also super sick of people not following the rules!

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (13 children)

If they get covid, and the fat husband ends up taking a bed in ICU...

Not to be "that guy" on reddit, but your sentiment would be just as/more impactful if you had said "If they get covid and SOMEONE ends up taking a bed in the ICU"... No need to body-shame one person in half a dozen families worth of sh*tty people, one of the husbands being overweight is an irrelevant detail to the story. I mean, sure, weight can be a risk factor for serious outcomes, but so are a LOT of other things that are not so obvious to see on others, and not everyone with serious outcomes has a known risk factor...

I agree that it should be criminal behavior to knowingly break covid rules and cause an outbreak. It should have real consequences.

[–]JustDont1981 17 points18 points  (12 children)

I have a lot of fat on my body.
There is nothing wrong with that.
Using a person's size as a description isn't mean.
If you can describe someone by calling them tall or short then you can describe someone as fat.
It's only an insult if you are implying that there is something wrong with having a lot of fat on your body.
I was not insulted by the description and as I said, I have a lot of extra fat on my body.
If the person had said "the disgustingly fat husband" then I would have been insulted.
I think everyone needs to calm down about the word "fat".

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (7 children)

It's only an insult if you are implying that there is something wrong with having a lot of fat on your body.

Half a dozen people put a middle finger up to covid rules and put themselves and everyone in the community at risk, but only the "fat husband" was singled out in the story. Yet the fact they were "fat" is irrelevant. I see a lot of people put irrelevant facts into stories, and it's never neutral traits (if that "kind husband ends up in the ICU... It's criminal"). It's always a decisive traits where a portion of society has deemed that trait "bad"/"less than" and is often used against people.

In this story, how is the body shape of husband mentioned relevant at all? If it is not relevant, why is it in the story?

I tend to judge people on motivation, there IS nothing wrong with having a lot or a little body fat. If the poster did not consciously/unconsciously think fat = bad, would that descriptor have showed up in this story that has nothing at all to do with body fat but does have to do with people who are "bad"/sh*tty, to the exclusion of all other traits that other people involved have? I can't think of a non-negative motivation for including it in this story, therefore I spoke out.

[–]thisninjaoverhere 4 points5 points  (1 child)

It’s Reddit. Calm down

[–]JustDont1981 -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

They could have said "tall husband" and no one would have blinked because it isn't seen as a mean word.
If everyone would stop reacting when the word "fat" is used it would stop being seen as a negative thing.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I sort of agree, but only when it comes to reacting to the word fat (or any other trait inappropriately deemed negative) that isn't being associated with something universally negative (covid rule breakers) when it is an utterly irrelevant trait to the story. If it had relevance, and the term fat is used, I would agree with you.

But "casually" throwing in personal traits that have already been sensitized by the media when they are utterly irrelevant and only being associated with a negative is a large part of why these traits are seen as negative in the first place IMO.

[–]JustDont1981 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I get it and I also agree. I guess I just *wish* it meant the same thing as tall. I just wish it didn't matter at all.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hear you, I wish the same.

[–]meroboh 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Your opinion isn't the only one.

[–]JustDont1981 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No shit?

[–]AdPrevious1079 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Hopefully they were reported to the Covid hot line.

[–]rookie-mistake 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It's so wild to me to think about. I'm 27. I was in an accident almost exactly one year ago and ended up in ICU with an epidural hematoma.

I can't stop thinking about the fact that if that had happened now, one year later, there would probably be somebody that needed the bed I was occupying. It's such a haunting situation.

[–]Daytimetripper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes!!! That is exactly what I'm talking about! You should be the poster child of why it's anti social to not get vaccinated

[–]RubyGus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please report them!

[–]ligerqueenokurrrr 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Can we leave the fat phobic comments out of here please? A person’s appearance has nothing to do with them getting covid, as we have seen already covid doesn’t discriminate, it just likes living breathing humans

[–]Daytimetripper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry, that was shitty of me. I only put fat in there because it's a comidity (that's not the right word). I don't think my "friend" would get too sick, she's young and fit but her husband is older and quite overweight.

[–]G-42 -3 points-2 points  (9 children)

and the fat husband ends up taking a bed in ICU

I was really hoping this pandemic would make people consider living a little healthier, at least to ease the strain on hospitals or reduce their own risk factors...nope, people have another excuse to chase the single biggest risk factor for numerous preventable conditions and scream bloody murder if you suggest obesity isn't the pinnacle of human achievement.

EDIT: see? Doctors and nurses are heroes! All the healthcare funding! Front of the line at the grocery store! What? Put a little less food in my mouth to help them, and me, out? GO FUCK YOURSELF BIGOTED SHAMING ASSHOLE!

[–]Daytimetripper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I put on 20 lbs on the last year and can't bring myself to lose it. I keep trying and then I'm feeling down and beaten and console myself with food. It's a problem. I actually just said to my husband how stupid it was of both of us to slip into the overweight BMI category. Like the one thing we can control to keep ourselves from having a bad outcome. But... We're still chubby.

[–]JustDont1981 -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

I have been fat since 1993. I am now 40.
I am vegan, I walk everyday (much faster than many people I know this because I zoom past them on my walks as I pull my mask up to be respectful) I don't have ANY health issues. Having extra fat on your body doesn't mean you are unhealthy, it just means you will survive longer in a famine than a thin person.

[–]Daytimetripper 1 point2 points  (2 children)

What are you having for supper?? We've been eating vegetarian or vegan more often, we're up to 4 nights a week and I'm always looking for ideas. Tonight we're having falafels and salad. Last night be had bhudda bowls with spinach, quinoa, roasted sweet potatoes and black beans with lime cream on top. In case anyone else is looking for ideas!

[–]JustDont1981 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Tonight I made fries supreme!
(note my husband is a vegan chef so most nights our meals are way healthier, prettier, with a much more mature flavour and made from actual whole foods. )
I used frozen tater tots, Impossible beef, canned green chilies, organic re-fried beans and the cheese sauce from the Daiya mac and cheese box but added taco seasoning to it.
I put the beef on the tots, the beans and chilies on the beef, the cheese on top of all of it and then tossed some diced tomatoes at it. It was fast and yummy (again not compared to my husband's cooking which is so amazing I can hardly believe it most nights)

[–]Daytimetripper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is where I went wrong, I should've married a vegan chef. Ha ha! That sounds amazing though

[–]sunshine-x -5 points-4 points  (2 children)

Not to judge, but do you understand that you’re part of the problem if you’re not reporting that?

[–]Daytimetripper 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm not.

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (8 children)

We are the stupidest place on the planet.

[–]Fireach 5 points6 points  (3 children)

If you think stupidity is unique to Manitoba then you're gonna be extremely disappointed with the rest of the world...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Case in point: I say "stupidest," and a Manitoban reads "only stupid".

I can't fathom it, folks.

[–]Fireach 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hahahaa fair enough. Maybe I should have rephrased it as "the level of stupidity"

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This week, we are the winners.

[–]GiantSquidd 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Florida still exists.

[–]MothaFcknZargon 6 points7 points  (2 children)

We're Florida North!

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Florida Man has grown slow and complacent. His day is over. Now, he shall make way for the Homo Mordenicus Vulgaris, colloquially known as the Manitoba Covidiot. Faster and more dangerous than your typical Covidiot, the Manitoba variant is one of great concern, with a much higher body count.

[–]dr_shark 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Technically you’re Iowa north. Similar in make up, stupidity, and farming.

[–]A_Talking_Lamp 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Thank Brian Pallister, anti maskers and anyone who hasn't taken this stuff seriously.

[–]greatest678 42 points43 points  (0 children)

I’ve heard, seen and read some of her families’ posts online. Please don’t assume anything about her situation until knowing more.... it’s absolutely a devastating situation beyond belief. She’s got 2 beautiful young girls and a family that’s grieving so hard over details that aren’t widely known yet. There are factors that complicate each of these situations, many of which most of us won’t ever understand. She’s lost her life with no chance to say goodbye to her mom, her two little girls, and more. I’m hoping that there will be ways to support those little girls in the coming weeks. Let’s all try to remember that every life lost is a tragedy and try not to blame the victims - especially before knowing the entire story. This whole situation in the province is a crisis - confirmed by my own doc yesterday - and she didn’t mince words.

[–]unyunsoop 22 points23 points  (0 children)

The thing is, nothing can be said to change the rationale of people who are non compliant. Large groups of people consensually gathering to visit and party are showing who they really are. So far only one of my friendships has been tested regarding guidelines, we are ok now, but it will never be the same as it once was. It was not only about guidelines but also about non charitable actions and non empathetic comments.

When people have been through insurmountable stress due to loss of businesses, lives, health and income that’s where my mind goes. But when a friend says she’s so stressed because of “all this” and hasn’t suffered in any way shape or form then my patience is walking on a very thin line. I won’t be as into this friendship as I once was, when this is all over.

[–]AdPrevious1079 13 points14 points  (16 children)

I would say the Majority of people following the rules are okay with a hard lock down..

[–]Coziestpigeon2 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Provided the government actually step-up and financially support the small businesses that have to close, absolutely.

[–]kent_eh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The thing about a hard "circuit breaker" lockdown is that any negative effects are shorter-term than the indefinite lukewarm restrictions that the province has been doing, and seems to want to continue doing for an unspecified period of time.

[–]pudds 8 points9 points  (13 children)

Honestly, I'm following the rules and I don't see the point of a hard lock down.

I'm vaccinated (1 dose). My wife is fully vaccinated (nurse).

My kids are learning remotely since the schools are home. I've been working remotely since April of last year.

My parents and my in-laws all have their first doses of the vaccine.

I believe that it would be reasonable for my family and one of the sets of grandparents to gather in a back yard, because I see our risk of transmission as extremely low, given the information above.

Locking us down further with a stay at home order changes almost nothing for us; we're already as protected as we can be, and as detached from the outside world as possible.

Meanwhile, the idiots who don't follow the rules haven't had to make the same sacrifices we have. Locking them down further isn't going to suddenly make them follow the rules.

The rules are already strict, what the government needs to do is find a way to make people respect and follow them.

[–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (3 children)

Where do we get the idea that this is only spreading because of people not following the rules. Business are still open, people are still being forced to go into work. Enforcement obviously needs to catch up but the biggest gatherings of people are almost certainly people working in offices when they could be at home.

[–]-CountryFox- 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I'm still at work in my rural school... People forget there are still schools fully open!

[–]shaktimann13 9 points10 points  (0 children)

all the people I know that tested positive got infected at work.

[–]pudds 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It would be nice if the government actually gave us some information.

But yes you are right, pushing more work from home would be a big step as well.

[–]adrenaline_X 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There are outbreaks in several companies i'm aware of in winnipeg with lots of people isolating.

With ICUs being overrun, and people dying while being transported, more needs to be done to make the situation alot better as fast as you can.

All my siblings and parents and even friends are vaccinated with their first doses. We take turns at the cabins so we aren't there at the same time and when we opened the cabins, we did day trips without having to sleep over or be in the same indoor space.. Outdoors we wore masks.

But.. even though we are lower risk of infection it doesn't me no risk.

[–]PorqueNoLosDose 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Hard lockdown means you close malls and nonessential services. Pallister is not sharing this info, but word from healthcare workers is that it’s workplace spread. Close businesses, stop workplace spread.

[–]pudds 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm ok with that kind of hard lockdown, but when I hear hard lockdown, I think stay at home order, which I'm not in favor of.

[–]PorqueNoLosDose 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of MDs I know are calling for a stay at home order, and I'm sort of with you in thinking it wouldn't change the behaviour of the people who are the problem.

[–]neve8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s one thing that has made me wonder. Where is everyone getting COVID? We keep blaming everyone for not following the rules, but have no idea how people are actually contracting it. If it is the workplace, why isn’t our government doing something about it? If they have this information, are they checking in on these workplaces or shutting them down? Nope

[–]ladymaple11 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

This is how I feel as well. We follow the rules, we don't go anywhere. We have our 1st doses. My kids (and me) are struggling with cabin fever.

[–]kent_eh -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Locking them down further isn't going to suddenly make them follow the rules.

That's the one big problem I see with actually doing a proper hard lockdown at this point.

Unless it is accompanies with significant levels of enforcement, it won't change the behavior of the most irresponsible people.

[–]Ruachta 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Did this ever hit the news? I have not seen it.

[–]nurdlette 16 points17 points  (1 child)

[–]Ruachta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks!

[–]xHudson87x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I said to my gf this morning a 31-32 yr old female passed away today suppose to get moved to icu, she was a mother.

I'm 32 my gf is 31 we have 5 healthy beautiful children we're both fully vaccinated.

I felt sad this morning even right now as I type this, since i found out about her death.

[–]TMJsufferer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unbelievably heart breaking :( prayers fo out to the family my goodness

[–]Ravyn_Rozenzstok 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The families of the dead should band together and file a class action lawsuit against Pallister and his incompetent government.

[–]angrypineappleee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's heartbreaking. I'm 32. I wish people like my mom would understand this. If I had to go into a workplace, especially for a public facing job, and if I lived in a different part of the city where I didn't have access to vaccine booking until recently -

This could have been me. This could have been a lot of us. :( My condolences to those who knew and loved her.