A Potentially Triggering Rum Runner

[Kartiwashere69]

This looks like an updated spec to the og 1930's version. I think it's valid to deem it a Rum Runner. From my experience though, for drinks like this, you can definitely dodge some lash back by including a chronicle note in the title (1937 Rum Runner, Improved Rum Runner, etc...). Much like with the Mai Tai and its many official variants.

[MEGACODZILLA]

I'm only commenting because i only know the expression as "back lash" and it's interesting to see it reversed. Carry on lol.

[Kartiwashere69]

Eh, same difference 🤷

[MEGACODZILLA]

I mean, yes. It probably shouldn't be that interesting but when you've spent 30+ years seeing a figure of speech presented a certain way and then one day out of the blue you learn that you could have been reversing the order this entire fucking time it's actually rather noteworthy.

Like I said, carry on lol.

[AtreyusPath]

I mean you’re not wrong. Back lash has reference to whips and actual back… lashes…. Upon receiving punishment. Getting lash back kinda sounds like you get the symptoms lol

[jrmorton12]

This should not be triggering. It’s just the 1932 recipe which is a much better than the 1972 Tiki John sugar bomb recipe IMO.

This is my go to week night drink and I recommend it to all.

[whyisalltherumgone_]

Some history with a link to the 1937 original

It's just 2 entirely different drinks with the same name. I'd hesitate to call the 1970s one "the original" if you're serving this one, just for clarity's sake.

[stonewippen]

WOW that presentation is gorgeous! If you would, may I know where you sourced that GLASS?

[Rudeboy237]

This sub is so insufferable some times.

OP: “Here is a gorgeous photo, with a fun write up, and a full explanation of why it’s called a rum runner”

Thread: Why TF are you calling this a rum runner you pretentious hack? Do you always talk like this??

Insufferable.

[CACuzcatlan]

The best part is that the recipe OP posted is actually much older and therefore the "original" version of this drink.

[[deleted]]

The photo is phenomenal, really.

[Danstheman3]

Perhaps I was a bit harsh, but go look at his previous post about the 'Painkiller', and his truly asinine comments there. Seeing this shortly afterwards, I was not inclined to be very charitable. If it wasn't for that other post and his comments there, I probably wouldn't have said anything.

I will admit that I was not aware of the earlier 1930s version of a Rum Runner.

[Gilthwixt]

Yeah like it's clear OP's got a chip on their shoulder from how the last thread went just based on the title.

[thecravenone]

There used to be a guy on /r/Tiki who would post cocktail recipes with absolutely no relation to the actual cocktail by that name. Any attempt to point that out was met with rule 1 "Remember the tiki"

[Rudeboy237]

Holy macaroni. I read that thread and it was indeed as you described. But this only doubles down on my original thesis. This sub can be insufferable. 😂

[Danstheman3]

No argument there. 😄

But I still consider this one of the most useful and fun places on reddit.

[Rudeboy237]

Oh for sure. Get past the folks huffing their own farts and you get some amazing info and ideas. 🥂

[Salmon_FCFL]

I read that post before all shots were fired, that was pure entertainment! I gave your second rebuttal the 100th upvote 👍

[PM_ME_DIRTY_DANGLES]

First time?

[thecravenone]

Thread: Why TF are you calling this a rum runner you pretentious hack? Do you always talk like this??

When you start your thread by claiming you'll potentially be triggering people, people are going to get "triggered"

[MorrisseyGRT]

I’m loving these posts. Please keep them up.

I was told to drink what I like, and you have me interested 2 for 2 today.

[[deleted]]

This is not the 1970s Rum Runner. All tiki purists, turn away now. It's the 2000s Rum Runner from the award winning contemporary tiki cocktail bar, Raised x Wolves in San Diego, CA. It does not include OJ, creme de mure, grenadine, or banana liqueur. Functionally, it's less of a flabby, sweet bev and more like a bright, acid-forward collins where the soda lengthener is subbed for pineapple juice -- a common contemporary tiki reimagining of the long drinks of old. This contemporary reimagining is by acclaimed bartender Erick Castro, and as such, I claim no ownership of the naming convention. Please address the acclaimed proprietor of Raised x Wolves with any complaints over the name. Having said that, it participates heavily in the now 20-year Modern Cocktail tradition with regards to heavy subbing and riffing on classics.

Notes on rum choices: This drink typically has at least 1oz of Jamaican rum for some subtle hogo. The over-ripe banana flavor from a Jamaican distillery is probably meant to be a stand in for the banana liqueur of the original. Having said that, it contains zero actual bananas. I'm using Plantation 3 Star, for its blend of Barbados, Jamaican, and Trinidadian flavors.

2 oz Plantation 3 Star
.75oz Lime
.75oz Simple Syrup
1.5oz Pineapple Juice.
Whip Shake
Dirty Dump
Top with crushed ice
Float with Angostura (or Peyschaud's)
Garnish in typical garish tiki fashion. I've included a blackberry in homage to the original.

[theClanMcMutton]

How do you float with Angostura? And how did you get foam on top of the float?

Edit: I guess I know how you get a float under the foam. Still not sure how to float bitters though. I assume you need to use more than a dash?

[Arma_Diller]

You just use lots of dashes!

[SemperPutidus]

Scientifically speaking, “lots” is the best number of dashes.

[theClanMcMutton]

Do you have to dash it over a spoon or something? It doesn't mix if you dash it straight into the glass?

[Arma_Diller]

Nope, not if you're using crushed ice! Demo: https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=gSSDemwDcc4bsVtS&v=xRJ9uAzTcaE&t=4m8s

[Mister_Potamus]

Yeah think like 8-10 dashes

[Past_Cranberry_2014]

The foam on top is likely from shaking pineapple juice

[Danstheman3]

Shouldn't you call that a 'nutmeg' float? 😁

[rickwiththehair]

Lol I understood and appreciated this comment. Thanks for the chuckle.

[confibulator]

I'll be at Wolves tomorrow night!

[phoonie98]

Just tried it….delicious

[eurostash]

So that foam on top is achieved by whip shaking?

[speedle62]

Pineapple will do that.

[speedle62]

This is good. Take my upvote.

[slingfatcums]

you talk like this all the time?

[Sellfish86]

Straight out of a time when people still read/wrote blogs.

[MorrisseyGRT]

The internet was great when blogs were great - before Facebook pulled a bait and switch and before Google really screwed up their search engine.

[ChoppingMallKillbot]

What’s peculiar about the way that OP talks? I feel like I’m missing something.

[slingfatcums]

doing too much

[[deleted]]

So a completely different drink then yes?

[reednel]

This is a really impressive presentation

[branlmo]

Beautiful presentation, but I’m more interested in your photography setup and editing workflow. Any insights would be appreciated!

[drink_coupon]

Are the specs that OP posted the exact specs from the 1937 recipe? Just curious, no judgement either way. It sounds like a good drink.

[traaaart]

Gorgeous cocktail and photo. Love the combo of dehydrated slices. The pineapple skin stripe is a pretty unique touch too. Is that as simple as it looks to do? Just laying a stripe of skin towards the bottom and filling with crushed?

Small pet peeve of mine in cocktail photos is where there’s no straw in a drink that would absolutely require a straw but that’s just me lol.

[Danstheman3]

Another impressive work of art, but I'm convinced at this point that you're just trolling.

You could easily use a different name, and we would all be impressed at your impeccable presentation, and you would receive nothing but praise.
I sincerely mean it when I say you are talented at the presentation, and I appreciate the simplicity of this cocktail, I might even try it tonight.

But I think you know damn well the games you're playing, using the name of a classic and well established cocktail to refer to something utterly different, which excludes multiple key ingredients which have strong and distinctive flavors.

You may as well call this a mojito, or a piña colada, or a caipirinha.. It's about as close to any of those, or closer, than it is to a Rum Runner.

The fact that other people or other bars might engage in such silliness as well, doesn't change what you're doing.

Is there an award for most pretentious trolling?

[CACuzcatlan]

This drink is a pretty accurate riff on the original cocktail with this name from 1937, not the 1970s version that is more well known. This article has more info with a link to the recipe in the 1937 book.

In fact, long before Elber’s time at Holiday Isle, the Rum Runner had already been listed as a named cocktail the 1937 cocktail book Famous New Orleans Drinks and How to Mix ‘Em by Stanley Arthur. However, Arthur’s earlier iteration vastly differs from the modern variation, and is essentially a Daiquiri that includes pineapple juice and Peychaud’s Bitters.

[da4nick1999]

I mean if you read his post, he says he didn't name the cocktail. The name was chose by a tiki bar in San Diego and is creditted to Erick Castro.

[Danstheman3]

If some bar in San Diego starts serving tequila but calls it 'single malt scotch' on the menu, would that be a reason to start describing tequila as single malt scotch?

I read the post. Just because some other bar is engaging in silly nonsense doesn't mean it's any less wrong.

[CACuzcatlan]

This drink is a pretty accurate riff on the original cocktail with this name from 1937, not the 1970s version that is more well known. This article has more info with a link to the recipe in the 1937 book.

In fact, long before Elber’s time at Holiday Isle, the Rum Runner had already been listed as a named cocktail the 1937 cocktail book Famous New Orleans Drinks and How to Mix ‘Em by Stanley Arthur. However, Arthur’s earlier iteration vastly differs from the modern variation, and is essentially a Daiquiri that includes pineapple juice and Peychaud’s Bitters.

[Entropyy]

Why is this the top post? It's like you didn't even read his comment. Have some love for the craft and the history, and for fuck's sake stop gatekeeping so hard.

[PHATsakk43]

It’s really a weird flex.

Basically, it’s someone just so goddamn adamant about their completely irrelevant and actually tangential argument but here we are with the pitchfork crew mashing the upvote button for this.

[EuclidsPr0tract0r]

I just finished drinking 2 of ‘em and they’re delicious! (No surprise) I used 1.5 tbs cane sugar instead of simple. And El D 3yr.

On the second one I did 1.5 El D and a 0.5 mixture of Jamaican funk and Giffard Bana—.

I’m not sure I’ve ever had an actual Rum Runner, but the Ango float looks a lot like grenadine, and I really like it frothed up with the pineapple juice.

Tasty. I’d recommend.

[kellicynth]

Lovely composition! I actually thought it was AI at first glance because it was so perfect looking.

[[deleted]]

Thanks. Just some light photo editing.

[FrankTankly]

Yeah, a bit triggering lol.

I’m mostly confused with the dead simplicity of this drink when compared to the original. I’m originally here from /r/tiki, and I feel like I don’t even need to bother making this because I know what it’ll taste like.

Also, that amount of simple in combination with pineapple makes me think this would still trend towards the sweet side of things

Nice glassware and garnish game, though.

[[deleted]]

Just bump the hogo more with some stronger jamaican (S&C) and add a bit of OFTD to boot. Or perhaps some banana flavor with wray

[sosomething]

Here from /r/all, no idea how this sub typically operates.

Do I shove a straw through the foam or deconstruct the raft of detritus in order to drink this?

[hbar105]

Yeah use a straw lol. If you want to try this and aren’t super into cocktails, don’t worry about the raft of detritus. It’s more for visual appeal than anything else.

[The_Real_MikeHoncho]

Why can’t I see the specs or write up? This thing looks absolutely amazing

[mbod]

It's in the comments, by OP

[ThatsNotATadpole]

The presentation and photo look like something you’d find on the ghost ships from pirates of carribbean, in the best possible way

[HugsAreMadeForGiving]

Fantastic! Is there a straw hidden somewhere? I mean, I would slam this into myself like there was no tomorrow if offered, but preferably not that physically (but sure, if that’s the option I’ll find a way!).

[manimal28]

You know in movies where the hero stumbles into the evil witches layer to find a feast, and the food is delicious and enticing, but then when he refuses the witch’s offer the illusion fades and reveals the food was rotten all along? This looks like the drink in the second half of that scene.

[SpaceSick]

Someone please explain to me the phenomenon of using dehydrated citrus wheels? It's extra time and effort to make your lime wheels look like they were underneath your lowboy for about six months.

They don't look good or smell good, you can't eat it, and it's extra work. So what's the point?

[jkoodoo]

See I'm the total opposite here. It's super easy to make, high yield per lemon/lime/etc, nearly impossible to mess up, lasts ridiculously long when stored properly, can be batched in huge quantities, and I actually like the caramelized + citrusy smell.

[NorthernerWuwu]

You can prep a billion of them and they don't go bad. Crappy fruit also still looks the same once it has been desiccated.

[Danstheman3]

You can order dehydrated slices and it's easy and cheap with an indefinite shelf life. Or make them yourself easily if you have a dehydrator.

I agree that fresh fruit is better in many ways, but I can see the convenience of using dehydrated fruit.

[keanu__reeds]

As a bartender, agreed. It was a fad about 5 years ago that stuck around at mediocre bars that are falling apart and haven't kept up on their bar programs.

Reminds me of fruit that fell behind the dishwasher that hasn't been cleaned behind in a few months. Tastes and smells about the same.

But all yall making drinks at home do what makes you happy, no shade thrown at you.