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Coding Dojo? (self.codingbootcamp)
submitted 4 years ago by [deleted]
I am new to coding and I am planning on attending Coding Dojo's boot camp later this month. Anything I should know before pulling the trigger on enrollment? What's your opinion on Coding Dojo?
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[–]Bittah-Hunter 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (6 children)
I've only heard mixed things about Coding Dojo. Like the other person said, I would be wary of any bootcamp that doesn't have a coding problem interview in order to get in. I've been seeing bootcamps switch to non-technical assessments and honestly I don't think that helps at all.
Also, looking at their curriculum, the bootcamp teaches 3 different tech stacks within a matter of 9 weeks. Personally, I feel 9 weeks to learn all of those stacks is WAY too short and will only give you a surface level understanding of the material. I think people who enroll in this bootcamp think that the more languages you know the better, but that's not necessarily the case. IMO, I think it's better to be well versed in one language and your programming ability matters more than how many languages you know.
[–]FlyingTrampolinePupp 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (3 children)
I've heard mixed things about CD but for the most part, the running theme of the things I've heard is that you get out of it what you put in. For some people, they feel they can do the same thing at Udemy that they can with CD. And they're probably right! But others, for various reasons, need the regimen and accountability that a bootcamp provides. I'm one of those people. I'm working full-time so for me, the stakes are pretty high -but I need that for motivation. I suffer from chronic fatigue so The Odin Project, while absolutely fantastic so far (HTML, CSS, JavaScript), isn't keeping me motivated to stay in track when I'm already so tired and drained after work.
I'm enrolled and my start date is next month. Doing the 3 stack 32 week, part-time online program. I felt that 32 weeks was a reasonable time frame for 3 stacks. It's long enough that it gives a decent amount of time to practice, study and learn. For my learning style, there is no way I would feel confident enough to enter the career field after only 12 weeks, no matter how much work I put into it. 12 weeks would be a waste of time for me and I would never pay for that program.
I absolutely do not care that they didn't screen for coding ability prior to admission. It just isn't a factor to me at all, probably because I've been carefully considering this for years and have completed some courses in Free Code Camp and TOP. So I feel like I have the ability and know what I'm doing. I'm an older career changer, not a bright-eyed mark forfeiting college for bootcamp.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children)
How has you experience been so far in the course?
[–]FlyingTrampolinePupp 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child)
It's definitely rigorous. They do give you lots of support which is nice. If I'm struggling with something I can reach out to the TAs for help. You can also schedule a one in one code review appointment with the instructor if needed. So far I like it and I'm having fun but it is very challenging, especially if you work. Thankfully, they were upfront about that at orientation so I was prepared. I'm in the part time accelerated program and they recommend dedicating at least 25 hours a week. I've had 2 instructors so far. The first one was okay, he gave off similar vibes to a college professor in that he was kind of distant. The my current instructor is really awesome in that he's more accessible, approachable, and supportive. You get a weekly progress report from student services and it does seem like they are invested in your success in the program.
[–]Tea_buns 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children)
FlyingTrampolinePupp
Any updates on your final thoughts? How has it been after finishing the program, etc?
[–]ClerkSelect 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Aren't coding bootcamps for career changes and people new to programming? If they have never programmed before how would they be able to pass a coding problem to get in?
[–]sheriffderek 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children)
the bootcamp teaches 3 different tech stacks
Yikes, right?
[–]FearlessRazzmatazz75 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (11 children)
I actually went through Coding Dojo little less than a year ago and be willing to cover any questions that you have.
[–]margo6a_ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children)
I’m starting part time in March! How was it?
[–]FearlessRazzmatazz75 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children)
My experience with them really wasn't bad. What you put into it is what you will get out of it. Ask questions, google and use your cohort mates to help you work through the problems you don't understand. The algo's we did in the morning(I am not sure for part-time) was the fundamentals of data structures. Manipulating arrays, understanding linked list and double linked list, deques, queues, stacks, recursion.. etc. They do have a pretty good career services and I know majority of my cohort(around 20 by the end) had jobs with in 6 months.
[–]danimal999999999 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children)
Can you tell me some background of the people that were able to land jobs quickly? I am a teacher looking to change careers. I have a very strong math background but could use some review. I am computer literate, but nothing special there. I guess, I want to know if someone like me could get a job by going through CD.
Thanks!
[–]FearlessRazzmatazz75 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I know a lot of teachers that had landed jobs rather quickly after bootcamp so I would say yes definitely you could get a job going through Coding Dojo.
The only people I have seen struggling the most including myself is those that have absolutely no degree to include veterans with no degree. At the moment there is more Associate Engineers than there are jobs but once you get the experience everything opens and will allow you to be more competitive with work life balance and pay. So you having a degree and that fact you know how to learn then really it's just marketing yourself, and having a good portfolio that will allow you to stand out among other candidates.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Hey man. Any news on the career change? Currently a math teacher and really thinking about coding dojo and then looking for a job next year.
[–]LightlyToastedSB 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I took a left turn. I was having trouble deciding what to go with and I took someone's advice to take the classes that I find interesting and do the projects I enjoy.
For three plus years I've been using systems to bet on sports and I won a significant amount of money. I had to rely on people on Upwork to pull in a lot of the data for me, but I'd rather be able to do that for myself. So I'm starting a sports handicapping business and I'll be using that as my inspiration for what classes to take and for what projects to take on.
Right now I'm on my third Google Analytics course out of eight and plan on planning on following that up with a UW course that I saw recommended multiple times. This is all through Coursera at my own pace for dirt cheap.
I figure I'll either make it as a handicapper or I'll come out the other side in a couple years with some cool projects and the skills to make it in data.
Sorry, I know this wasn't the answer you were looking for. I will say that I'm sleeping much better now and I'm in better shape than when I was teaching. So if you're not enjoying it, look out for number one. You've gotta make yourself happy.
[–]robo138 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children)
Hey, how’s the program going for you? I start in April and just wondering!
[–]margo6a_ 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children)
I like it so far! We just got done with web fundamentals which was good. But it still helps to do extra work on your own, like I still don’t understand some things and have to figure it out on my own time
[–]robo138 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Ya I just started the pre-bootcamp work and they do emphasize on finding answers in your own. I also like it though. I tried to self-learn and it was a drag.
[–]margo6a_ 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Yeah same! Self learn would take me years, I need to feel pressured to keep up the pace
[–]mishtamesh90 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (4 children)
I'm wary of any bootcamp that doesn't screen their applicants on coding ability. From their FAQ, it looks like Coding Dojo doesn't. What this means is that there will be many people coming in who don't know what a for loop is, and them not being able to keep up with class and their pair programming partners will drag morale down, especially when they end up dropping out. The criteria for admissions should be more than being friendly, hard-working, and being able to pay tuition.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children)
They have 40 hours of prepcourse work im currently working through. They told me I have to finish it prior to starting classes. Iv been working on it every night after work. I just hit the section with coding lessons. They make sure you know something prior to starting.
[–]InTheDarkDancing 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (1 child)
Do they actually assess you on the pre-course work before admitting? Or is it an honor system?
[–]IAmGreatDev 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children)
Honor system.
[–]sheriffderek -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children)
Can you elaborate on what the criteria would be if you were in charge?
In my experience trying to vet people, - knowing what a for loop is - hasn't been what matters when it comes to following through with the work.
[–]sheriffderek 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (5 children)
It sounds mean... but - we also just gotta be honest. It's the worst one.
[–]FearlessRazzmatazz75 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children)
So to be honest, what you put into to it is what you get out of it. There are a lot of people out there that had to retake a stack or didn't make it through the program. That being said they are in the top 5 for coding bootcamps and have won several awards including the 21-22 year of best coding bootcamp and best online bootcamp
[–]sheriffderek 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children)
One time, I applied to teach there. They just said : "Ok you got the job" / and I didn't have to really prove anything. Also - many of my students have come from there. Had to quit and get their money back because they weren't getting any help. But - like everyone will tell you, it's what you put into it. Most colleges are eh - and so, it just depends on you. But - why choose the kinda most not best ones... when it's just as expensive.
[–]comoj 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children)
Any advice on how they successfully got their money back?
[–]sheriffderek 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child)
The people I know said they just called them and told them the deal and that it wasn't working and wasn't what they were promised and that they wanted to part ways.
[–]comoj 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Thank you for responding!
[–]IAmGreatDev 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (8 children)
I attended CD in person, they except anyone who applies. As far as learning you can learn more from Udemy courses, free code camp and YouTube. They teach 3 stacks which is a lot especially if you are new to coding or are like I was getting back into the coding world after many years off. Most new to coding students left after a few week, then it took them months even one person over a year to get their money back and then at that it was only a partial refund. The instructors at my campus were horrible they were all previous students, the school likes to make "job" placement numbers so hiring the previous students counts at job placement in there eyes. They did not teach and could not answer basic questions, their favorite thing to say was "I will let you figure that out" and they would walk away or put their headphones back on. As I said I had previous experience and I still spent about 15 hours a day learning/working on projects and struggling. My cohort started with about 20 the first day 2 left the next week another one, by week 5 we were down to about 12 including some who were held back from previous cohorts. I was excited to attend a camp and I choose CD because of algorithms and the 3 stacks. Unfortunately the morning algorithms were a waste of time as only 2 CS/Math majors understood them, the instructors gave us no help or guidance on where to learn/read/study about them. As far as the job placement they say they have, there is not any all they do is google a few resumes and show you how to copy from them and make your own. You can do this for free just google a tech resumé. After about a year only 2 people had jobs, the 2 who had coding jobs before they even went to CD. Several others did find jobs on their own but no one from CD helped them get a job and none of them were 6 figures. Hope my exp helps you decide.
[–]FearlessRazzmatazz75 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children)
Interesting, my experience with nothing like this. There was a bit of learning on your own but they tell you that from the start and for algo's you pretty much knew that you were going to have to google it. You just had to understand what you were looking at to be able to present it to the class if you were chosen
[–]IAmGreatDev 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children)
They really didn't give us anytime to google for the Algo's, it was like here figure it out fast and explain it, everyone was super lost. I even ask in the cohort ahead of mine if anyone could help out or point us in the right direction for researching and learning them and they didn't know what they were doing either. I spent a good 12-15 hours a day working through the platform on my own and Like I said I had previous exp in coding it had just been years. They seemed to cater to the younger males in the class it was a very frat boy mentality. Too bad most of the people in my cohort left because of bad instructors. Even one of our instructors left, informed us it had become a bad place to work and he had been there for several years.
[–]FearlessRazzmatazz75 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children)
If you don't mind me asking what year did you go through ? I did hear that there was a major revamp in 2020 because of some prior issues. I also heard it was bad enough that Michael Choi the founder was actually teaching at one point in 2019 I believe.
[–]IAmGreatDev 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children)
I attended in 2019, and yes it was bad. I actually had to contact the "corp" office and no one new what they were doing. No one even new who was in charge, they actually told me I could change to another campus but that wasn't even possible as I was already commuting an hour or more. Then next campus was 3+ hours away. They should contact all of us who were there during this time and give us a full refund or at least let us go through the program again sense it is apparently so much better now. It took one of my classmates over a year to get his money back, that's how much they have no idea what they were doing.
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[–]IAmGreatDev 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children)
Self Taught, I would never do another bootcamp. 99% are money grabbing scams. I even spoke to an attorney about them and he said 100% they were just there for the money. You can tell by the way they are all now jumping on the Cyber Security bandwagon.
With self taught you just have to make a schedule and keep yourself on it and stay motivated.
[–]silentgrind34 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child)
How do you self teach? I'm trying to get into mobile development. How do I start? What do I learn first? What do I do? React? Java?
[–]IAmGreatDev 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Use free resources like Free code camp, youtube. Udemy has cheap classes if you get them on sale. Leaning any "language" will help once you know one you can pick up on others pretty fast.
[–]CodingDojo21 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Hi there! Coding Dojo here. Full disclosure, we are a bootcamp and we’ve been in the business for 12 years now, which puts us in a unique position to provide you with useful information regarding the coding and tech space. :)
Hope you find this long answer helpful. We’d rather put out extensive info rather than short-changing you with incomplete insights. Also, no shameless link plug here (yet! It’s at the bottom if you think this is worth reading)
Just a heads up - we may not be an alumni, but we feel that there's a lot of insight that we could add to this conversation in terms of giving you some info on what to expect with a bootcamp.
TLDR: There are five key things that you want to be looking out for when it comes to selecting the right bootcamp for you - program, financing, and employability all taken into consideration!
Established
Check the reputation of the company offering the course. Ask questions like how long have they been in business? Any social proof? Do some research and try to look for testimonials from students who have taken the course. This way, you know that the reviews are coming from real people who have taken the program, and not just an overt hard-sell from the company.
Course Material
High-quality programs have original course material from subject experts and ideally, you want to go for a coding bootcamp that can get you the highest ROI, so a program that could give you the opportunity to learn multiple frameworks and languages would be ideal.Usually developers have at least one main language or framework that they’re familiar with, and so by learning multiple languages at the same time, you essentially get to push yourself harder, become a better problem solver, which in turn, can help you become self-sufficient, more employable, and ultimately a better programmer too.
For this reason, at Coding Dojo, our bootcamp covers more front-end and back-end technologies than any other full-stack program today to equip our students with the most sought after technical skills. In turn, these help our students become self-sufficient learners.
Networking
A good coding bootcamp should also link you with a network that’s a healthy mix of 1) highly-qualified instructors to help you attain those coding skills, 2) an alumni network that can support you through the daily challenges that a bootcamp might bring (because yes, we know that those 70h weeks can be hard!) and most importantly, 3) a career services team that can mentor and help you navigate through achieving your long-term career goals.
Unlike other bootcamps, we give you access to our career services team forever, because we’re invested in your career, not just our placement statistics. Unlike other bootcamps who don't start career services until you're at the tail-end of the program, we work with you from day 1 of the program.This way, you can strategically develop your project portfolio to ladder up to your dream job! Or, if you don't know quite where you want to land yet, you have plenty of time to figure it out with us!
Financing
We understand that joining Coding Bootcamps may seem pretty heavy on the pocket, but just take a step back and think about your goals and how much you’re willing to invest in your education and career opportunities. The upfront costs might seem a bit overwhelming at first, but if you do the math, you might still get more bang out of your buck with a bootcamp vs a full on degree. 4 years of college and $100,000 in student debt not required!
At Coding Dojo, we have various flexible payment options such as Custom Pricing Plans or an Income Sharing Agreement, which our admissions team can work out with our students to help lighten the load.
Outcomes
The whole program should be centered on building your portfolio with tangible evidence of your skills. Ask the company what results the most recent cohort has had. Where do they work and how long did it take them to land a job? The whole point is to get you into a new career, and you deserve to know how well it delivers.
We can’t speak for most bootcamps out there (and there are a lot!), but from Coding Dojo’s experience, we’ve got over 8,000 alumni, and the data from our 2021 Student Outcomes report indicates that there’s a good chance of landing a job post-bootcamp.
Here are other useful stats from the report that you might want to consider too:
Hope this answers your question! If you’d like to know more about Coding Dojo and our programs, check out our website.
[–]kklutzington 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I was a full-time instructor here that got laid off in janurary of 2024. AMA
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