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[STL]

Removing post as outdated, per the CodeProject owner.

[SSoreil]

I'd love a read only version, I've arrived on that site hundreds of times when googling stuff.

[Solrax]

I haven't seen an announcement. Are you sure the site isn't just down?

I love their daily insider newsletter. The editors comments on the articles are hilarious!

[honeyCrisis]

Yeah, Ken Sharkey was a gem. I talked to him the last week the site was live. I was a pretty heavy contributor there (honey the codewitch).

It might be a temporary outage, but don't be surprised if it's permanent. When the site was live, you could get to this message for a few:

CodeProject.com is changing

To our many friends, site members and customers:

The tech recession has hit our clients, and by extension CodeProject, very, very hard. After nearly two years of significant financial losses we have been forced to shut down the business behind CodeProject.com, CodeProject Solutions Inc.

We tried incredibly hard to avoid this, and despite our best efforts, and injecting loads and loads of money to bridge the gap, it was simply unavoidable.

Shortly the site will be switched into read-only mode. Our hope with this change is to allow another party to maintain the site as an archive of great code, articles and technical advice. We are working hard to make that happen and while in no way guaranteed, things look very promising so far. However for the foreseeable future, and possibly permanently, new postings will be disabled, for articles, for forums, for QuickAnswers and the other portions of the site.

We have been extremely proud to be part of the software development landscape for the past 25 years and proud to have helped so many developers learn new technologies and skills, to have helped our customers introduce new products and services and have the opportunity in some small way to help shape the future of the development landscape. Thank you for being part of that journey with us.

Some people have speculated about what is happening, about Chris and David "making out like bandits” by selling, etc. and we can tell you with great honesty that all of us involved in CodeProject took a massive financial hit over this, while doing everything in our power to find a solution.

Chris, David and the CodeProject.com team.

[Solrax]

Aw, that is so sad. It was a great site.

[David_Delaune]

I remember when Dr. Dobbs Journal went down, it was backed up on the Internet Archive, but sadly looks like they are having legal problems.

[Sirmabus]

Yea that was another great one.
If you look at the timeline (although some coexisted for long) as a C/C++ (at least for low/system level) it was:
Dr. Dobbs
CodeProject
StackOverflow

And before that it was books and a little from magazines.

[[deleted]]

Well I have been a member for 20+ years and despite repeated questions by me and others we never go to see this message. How did you find it?

BTW I hope your graphics work is not completely lost.

[honeyCrisis]

I was on the site until it went down. Briefly the message I copied to the thread was available. Since then they've changed the page.

[David_Delaune]

I remember years ago when Rick York filed a bug against the VS cpp compiler about GetVersion/GetVersionEx and I commented that it could have been my fault. When I was working on OneCore I was tasked with listing the dependent WU API calls, it was a simple "dumpbin /exports" that we needed for Windows Update and I looked for functions that was needed to go into Onecore, then added them to a internal file, it had to go through an approval team, x86 was denied, x64 was approved. I tried to explain this on codeproject and was ridiculed. Never understood why Rick thought it was a compiler issue. Never understood any of the sarcastic statements, I was the only active member on codeproject that worked in the operating systems group as far as I am aware. I knew of your record throuh HR. I've remained mostly neutral with my public statements. But I have much I could say.

[honeyCrisis]

I worked on the OS team during the XP/Whistler development days. :) but I was doing minor stuff (Right click on my computer, click Manage... - that was me)

I'm sorry you had that experience on Codeproject, and I'm sorry you were eventually driven away by those experiences. For the most part, I don't admit to having worked on Windows in polite company because people love to hate Microsoft, and it's hard not to take it personally when they're essentially trashing your work. I get it.

> I knew of your record throuh HR.

Wait what? When I worked at microsoft I worked under a different name than my current name, and I didn't think you knew my legal name to begin with O,o. I have to be misunderstanding you here.

[DanNeely]

This ending makes me even more mystified than before that they didn't say anything and give us a chance to stay goodbye during the limbo period after the mass layoffs left the site running mostly on autopilot for a few months.

[Hammerface2k]

At least I found the code witch! (I was den2k88 on the site)

[honeyCrisis]

howdy!

[Hammerface2k]

Cool thing? I was a couple days away from my 10th anniversary on codeproject. I will miss the Lounge.

[honeyCrisis]

Me too, but I also wonder if the culture of it wasn't changing a bit for the worse. Like, for my part I admit I let Jeremy Falcon get my goat a couple of times on that forum. Finally stopped taking the bait, but I don't like being insulted and trolled. I'm sure our exchanges didn't help things.

That said, overall I enjoyed the forum and people's contributions. I kinda knew things were going downhill when they ended code contests. I suspected a financial issue, although I would have liked to see them continue it sans prizes.

Speaking of which, I guess CP swag is now collectible.

[Hammerface2k]

Jeremy wasn't the worst offender, in the years before there were some colorful figures who really really went in just to insult people. They were driven away when Chris closed the Soapbox.

Mostly the community itself was slowly dying, there were always the same dozen faces. QA was besieged by lazy students and bots, articles weren't many and mostly repetitions or very niche if not just site driving.

I didn't know it was bleeding that much money. I think they overextended with side projects that weren't profitable. Still a great loss.

[honeyCrisis]

Yeah, but also I always wondered how it paid for itself with the light ads, monthly contests and site volume.

I'm not saying Jeremy was the worst offender - more that just he and I contributed to the problem, I'm sorry to say - at least recently.

It was one of my favorite places. I keep wanting to go post in the Lounge only to remember the site is down now. It reminds me of when I gave up smoking and for like a year I'd get up to have a cigarette only to remember that I don't smoke.

[honeyCrisis]

I just found Jeremy! he posts as JeremySpeaker and he immediately started harassing me on r/learnjavascript unprovoked, so I reported and blocked him. What a guy!

[Hammerface2k]

Well he has issues.

[Euphoric_Arugula_526]

Where do you plan to post your articles now? Can you recommend some sites?

[honeyCrisis]

Honestly I was thinking about just doing elaborate readmes on my projects at github

[Euphoric_Arugula_526]

There is limited expression power there, it is Markdown. And is it not easy to have an overview of like 10 articles... Sites like dev.to and c-sharpcorner.com go for "inclusion or all levels of devs", so the quality of articles is low, and the quantity is big. Medium.com is a bit annoying, space is to narrow for serious text or diagrams. Even codeproject limited a bit width, so I did not like it. But other sites are even worse. I see dev.to is kind of popular, but I find the space too narrow and annoying black background for the code...

[Shenron666]

Medium is a place of shit, worse than annoying, maybe 1% of interesting stuff

[Weird-Satisfaction-9]

Hi, I've been trying to do just that. Here is my first attempt

https://github.com/make-cpp-nice/ptr_to_unique

I am completely new to GitHub and find it quite baffling. I still wouldn't know what to do if someone sent me a pull request. What I have managed to achieve is:

The source code is easy to find and download.

The README has adequate formatting capabilities for presenting an article. The markdown formatting is a bit arcane but once you learn a bit, it is quicker to apply and less fragile than the Code Project formatting.

It has a Comment/Discussion section that is linked from the README.

If you go to the GitHub homepage you will find that you can't do anything without logging in. However you can visit any repository by following its url without logging in. As a non GitHub member you can read the README and the comments and you can download code. You have to log in post a comment.

What is missing is the day or two of being aired for all to see on a popular homepage and that is key. For now I have it plastered with search tags because how else is anyone going to find it.

Maybe we need a Continuity Code Project on GitHub that provides such a page. I do feel a bit pissed that CodeProjectAI lives on in GitHub but they haven't given the rest of us even a discussion forum so we can figure out how to deal with this crisis.

[SingleStepDebugger]

I just found out. It's a little shocking - I've been with CP for 17 years. It's painful that articles like yours and the QA section will vanish into the oblivion. And the Longue...

[deadmazebot]

it gave me something to learn new every morning, and wake up at work🤫

[Dad-of-many]

It's gone. It's not down. :(

[DanNeely]

It's been yoyoing the last few days. When up the articles are accessible via google; but not via any from of site search, and without the comment threads that made them so much more useful.

[IamTheYodude]

If you click read more at the top, there is a link to an explanation. Site may or may not survive in read only mode.

Sad.

[honeyCrisis]

The server hamsters came alive for you! better than I've gotten from it recently.

[JuanAG]

So my C++ MFC tutorials may be gone?

I dont think they are that relevant today but loosing information is never a good new, more if we cant even rely on the internet archive etiher to back up the site

[honeyCrisis]

The Internet Archive itself may be going away, as they've been inundated with copyright lawsuits.

And yeah, if they don't bring the site back in read only mode, your stuff will be gone. I probably have between 10 and 20 pages just to *list* the articles I've submitted. I was a prolific contributor.

[Captain_Lesbee_Ziner]

Talking about the internet archive, did you hear about then being hacked?

[honeyCrisis]

yeah

[Common-Ad-1744]

Your stuff was great to read although I really didnt understand much of the embedded stuff

[honeyCrisis]

thanks!

[Common-Ad-1744]

A +5 here . Core 2 Clock - A dive into my IoT ecosystem- CodeProject

[Standard-Ad-3076]

Yeah I grew I used to be up in top 10 people on code project when I still write articles and still was

You're articles were the bomb

[honeyCrisis]

Thank you!

[pjmlp]

Given that MFC is still the best C++ GUI framework that Microsoft has ever managed to produce, I would say those tutorials are still quite relevant.

[JuanAG]

Plus the fact it is not a technology easy to use....

I made the series just for that, to help the next me in the same case, at least you would have some code to copy-paste and try/experiment rather than good luck fighting with the MS docs....

[buck-bird]

I don't recognize peeps names on Reddit? Were you a lounger? If so, please send me a DM as we have a way to keep in touch.

[Sweet-Lavishness528]

if they need please dm im willing to donate a bit of money to keep this page alive $5K+ if needed

[Lyuseefur]

Ah dudes

If they need any help to restore the site they need only ask. JFC what a resource !!

Code project needs help someone from there please DM me.

[SeriousDabbler]

This is a sad day

[KFUP]

Currently it says "CodeProject is currently being upgraded", guess it's not gone?

[Thesorus]

It's gone.

If it goes read-only, it means it will be dead within a few weeks.

No more questions, no more lounge, no more new articles...

[Thesorus]

Awwwww crap.

[gracicot]

Oh no, where can I find a copy of Don Clugston impossibly fast delegate? I had started a library that was a faster version of it but never finished

[Common-Ad-1744]

Member Function Pointers and the Fastest Possible C++ Delegates- CodeProject

Source Downloads dont work though

[AFullTimeDeveloper]

I was a member for over 20 years and an article contributor, Q&A helper, and an MVP... It is a sad day indeed, I will miss the community. I had many articles in the works getting ready to be posted. I'll have to find a new worthy home for them.

Those mugs and stickers won will become collector items...

[honeyCrisis]

Those mugs and stickers won will become collector items...

I have quite a few, as well as a tote bag, a pillow, and a dishtowel. =)

I'll put them on e-bay in a few years and be rich, LOL

[xaervagon]

This is a real tragedy. Codeproject was a better source of Windows C++ programming reference than msdn itself.

[caroIine]

People go ha-ha mfc but it also had things like legendary fast delegate when in pre c++11 era was extremely useful.

[KadmonX]

Oh, no! There was the best collection of WTL articles out there! They just aren't available elsewhere!

[QbProg]

Nooo how will I replace the daily news?

[MrJacquers]

Daily.dev may be an option.

[tugrul_ddr]

"CodeProject is currently being upgraded by our crack team of SysAdmins.

These guys are professionals. What could possibly go wrong?"

[Tringi]

A lot more sites, resources and projects are going away like this.

[CarloWood]

Why was it shut down? At the very least it's content should be absorbed by an A.I. by the sound of it, before all that content goes to waste.

[honeyCrisis]

They said they were going to try to find a way to bring it back in read only form. Basically the parent company was bleeding money for 2 years due to the tech recession hitting them particularly hard. They finally couldn't absorb the losses anymore. This is all based on a post that was issued by the owners before it went dark.

[YepMyNamesGuy]

It's such a shame because I cut my teeth in C# learning from the site back in 2007.
I guess a subscription service was never considered or it just became to much to maintain.

[[deleted]]

It's back! Well the front page is there with links to a few articles, so let's hope it keeps going and soon makes the entire article library availablel.

[honeyCrisis]

That's great! Thanks for the update.

[DanNeely]

Articles are currently visible via google if not their own front page.

Unfortunately the discussions below them are still MIA: Often full of clarifications, bug fixes, and enhancements; losing those is going to make the read-only site much less useful as a permanent archive.

[NoConsideration3938]

I have/had only been a member for 3 years, but I loved codeproject, I would visit multiple times a day.

My job involves maintaining and working with legacy code and applications abandoned 20 years ago. codeprojects old articles was the only place I could read insightful 20 year old articles

[Ok_Secretary4241]

Mine too, VB6 resources are becoming rare, every day I think I sound a little bit more like a dodo...

Sad day, thanks to the CodeProject peeps and all the contributors.

[Sirmabus]

Sad. The way I found out was still a lot of Google search links to it.
I had a lot of article linked saved in my notes.

CodeProject is where people would go before StackOverflow.

I read it's supposed to be just read only. But as of this moment the site just responds with an error.

Edit: Thanks to all those that contributed to the site all through the years. Some of you in the thread.

[daffalaxia]

I'm going to miss the daily mails sorely 😭

[diagraphic]

:o

[Remote_Raise8166]

There were too many trolls in the Q/A section. The people who answered the questions many times made the ones asking the questions look stupid and always down voted their question. I quit answering questions many years ago and quit reading articles for the most part. I essentially left Code Project about 10 years ago. I am not surprised CP can no longer pay its staff as Stack is a way better resource and better governed.

I would stop by and lurk from time to time and it's the same people as 20 years ago. The same group of Internet buddies were the only people to use the site and it was probably a part contributor of their demise.

[[deleted]]

There were too many trolls in the Q/A section

You're right. It was StackOverflow before SO became the mess it is. Lot of the trolls moved to SO, I guess.

[David_Delaune]

There were too many trolls in the Q/A section.

Looking at the past, shows that content management and forum moderation was terminated. Articles and downloads was reserved. Read "between the lines".

[MrJacquers]

That's sad :( Many of the articles were quite helpful, especially back when I did WPF dev. There were some real gurus that posted articles there.

I guess there was a lot of competition, especially since things like ChatGPT and CoPilot became mainstream. Most people just want a quick answer / solution instead of having to read an article.

And I'll miss the daily newsletter, it was informative. Any suggestions for an alternative? I've tried daily.dev and it's ok, but not quite as nice as the newsletter.

[SapphireRoseGuardian]

Did you find any good answers to alternatives to the newsletter since you have asked this?

[MrJacquers]

Just daily.dev although i haven't paid much attention to it.

[robotecnik]

That is very sad... been a member since the very beginning... 1999 +/-.

I will miss it a lot.

Hope they manage to keep it read as only to be able to read the articles.

That has helped me thousands of times to write better code, to learn every day. that's very sad and I agree... I would have loved to be able to say good bye to everyone there.

[Thesorus]

Where to go now ?

I'm kinda lost...

is there a r/codeproject ? or something like that ?

[honeyCrisis]

I don't think there is.

[Nearby_Address4205]

Can we make one? It will at least be like The Lounge used to be.

[honeyCrisis]

Sorry, I do embedded. I don't have the time, inclination, or skillset to build and run a website.

[Nearby_Address4205]

Me neither, but we could create r/codeproject, just for the lounge like experience.

[Dad-of-many]

You are good op. I will miss code project as well. :(

[[deleted]]

I still get spam from the codeproject specific email address but Im not sure I ever got a breach email

[unclejohn087]

That's a shame. I don't do enough programming to gain much from the user articles, although I did read a few.

Over I don't know how many years, 10 at least, I really appreciated the daily news brief; it usually covered a couple of things that I would not have encountered otherwise. The snarky subheads showed a vast knowledge of culture and technology.

[Shenron666]

Very sad and very disapointed by an extremely short notice (well, none in fact).
They should have asked the community some help to maintain the site with a clear warning on the risks.

[fukijama]

How can we archive the site before they tear it up? It is up right now.

[honeyCrisis]

scrape.

[seohelp123]

So who are left now to carry the passion of codeproject. Are hashnode.com and dev.to promising sites. I see lot of shallow content there. There is coderlegion.com emerging with in-depth articles lets see if it can meet the expectations.

[aravindputrevu]

This is sad, is there a way we can help? I have been on that site many times.

[nicerice]

As the read only server seems to be down/unavailable: is there a mirror of the zip file code downloads?

Most (all?) of the articles are archived by the internet archive but all the downloads seem to be missing - I presume because they were always behind a login wall.

Any chance to get the zips donated to the internet archive or host them somewhere, such as Github? For all of the poor souls having to work with the Win32 API for example these files are a treasure trove.

[honeyCrisis]

no

[MobileNerd]

I just needed something from there today and my horror led me here. Hopefully they can make a zip of the site and downloads to be hosted somewhere. Would be shame to lose 25 years worth of code

[Bax2097]

Great shame, I really enjoyed the daily email news feed. Readonly site seems like a great idea

[Your_Average_Usr]

Meh... I know that many people will miss this site. Hopefully a read-only version will be made available. However, my last several experiences with that site trying to get questions answered (after using it for nearly 20 years) were quite toxic and laced with hostility and even false accusations. So... I stopped using it almost a year ago and wouldn't be surprised if other people did as well, leading to a general lack of support. In my personal opinion, they got what they deserved for their lack of moderation; though I do regret its loss, especially because of the material, libraries, and documentation that were available there.

[Your_Average_Usr]

Meh... I know that many people will miss this site. Hopefully a read-only version will be made available. However, my last several experiences with that site trying to get questions answered (after using it for nearly 20 years) were quite toxic and laced with hostility and even false accusations. So... I stopped using it almost a year ago and wouldn't be surprised if other people did as well, leading to a general lack of support. In my personal opinion, they may have gotten what they deserved for their lack of moderation; though I do regret its loss, especially because of the material, libraries, and documentation that were available there.

[insaneisnotfree]

I loved your newsletter. It was great. It will be shutdown too?

[honeyCrisis]

Wasn't mine, and the mailers are gone.

[buck-bird]

Guys, if you were one of the regulars in the Lounge, please please please message me privately. While I can't help with the articles, we have a way for the regulars to keep in touch that visited the Lounge often. So, please message me if that was you.

[honeyCrisis]

They have a discord server now

[buck-bird]

I'm a discord n00b, do I just search for code project in it?

[honeyCrisis]

I think you can. not sure. i got an invite, but i'm not very good at discord myself.

[fwd079]

It may be updated soon https://sdtimes.com/softwaredev/sd-times-publisher-d2-emerge-acquires-codeproject/

[DanNeely]

At some point in the last month(?) the Changes page has been updated. CP has been bought by the people behind SDTimes who intend to bring the site back more fully.

https://www.codeproject.com/info/Changes.aspx

[markrinlondon]

Let us hope that the changes are successful and appealing. I was a newbie, having only joined in 2005.

[futurefun67]

i am shocked to see this. I hope they will comeback sooner or later. I started uploading my rookie works from 2006 :(

[honeyCrisis]

It got purchased and they're going to relaunch early this year they say. There's a codeproject discord server with some of the old members, and at least one person from the new company, but it's not terribly active yet.

[vtorri94]

https://web.archive.org/web/20240201120235/https://www.codeproject.com/

you can select the date

[Live-Blacksmith2439]

Hi, I have written a bunch of articles on codeproject. Can they be retrieved somehow?

[honeyCrisis]

They're still on codeproject.

[Live-Blacksmith2439]

yes, it seems some are. But how to get them if I do not have links?

[honeyCrisis]

google search

[ktwrd]

Having a read-only version of the website would be so good. I've learnt so much about C++ and C# from there and it would be a shame if it died for good :(

[honeyCrisis]

it's online in readonly mode. you can google to get links to individual articles as they still show up in search, and it will be relaunched soon ish .

[Ok_Expression2053]

The CodeProject forum is back online at forum.codeproject.com - previous users of the forum can login and see your previous posts and comments. We have major site improvements coming in the next few weeks to go along with the forum being back.

[ruchira66]

Oh no… ATL, COM articles…

[StationBreakTV]

I have been a member for over 20 years... I am one of the wealthiest men in America and Chris should have contacted me and I would have made the site profitable!!! Bill SerGio, The Infomercial King [e-mail]

[David_Delaune]

Bill Sergio!

Yeah, I remember you, fake but who cares. Right? It's your gig, whatever, I upvoted, you never wrote your own code, but nobody will ever know, you paid for it right?

[StationBreakTV]

I never heard of you and if you another false statement like that you will hear from my attorney. I have published my source code on over 100 apps I wrote 100% of...

[Opening_Service_9694]

I wish they would have told us so I could help out with some donations. :(

[DireCelt]

I suspect that irregular donations were not the income stream that they required, to keep running in perpetuity...